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Wed 20/04/05 at 11:48
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Right I'm looking at either getting an ATI X850 XT PE for £325 inc del from Komplett (club 3d) or a Gainward PowerPack! Ultra/2600 256MB AGP DVI-I VO for £297 inc del from Dabs. Which is the faster card and which will last me longer? As I know the X850 XT PE card is harder to come by at the moment in AGP for a decent price I'll go for that now rather than missing out, if it's the better card! Cheers!
Sat 23/04/05 at 14:38
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Bullett wrote:
> Well Spikecast, the Club3D X850s have sold out - they have got some
> Sapphire ones in though:
>
> [URL]https://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=307839&cks=SER[/URL]
>
> Only £19 more!

Going PCI-E mate. Watch this space!
Sat 23/04/05 at 14:37
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The X800XL is £199 but it cripples the 6800GT in a lot of things which is £100-150 more expensive.
Sat 23/04/05 at 14:09
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Haha..

I'm going to build a new PC later in the year...

.. but I need to replace my 9600 for this computer and I was thinking about a nVidia BFG 6600GT - what do Radeon have in the £150 range.
Fri 22/04/05 at 08:49
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smv wrote:
> Don't Splinter Cell 3, MOH Pacific Assault and others use SM3.0? Even
> so, more games will be using it in the future. If I'm spending
> £300 on a card I'd want it to use up to date tech. It may not
> be the big issue it's marketed to be, but I do think it should be a
> consideration.

Yeah that's all well and good providing Shader 3.0 technology will be implemented in all games but as it stands hardly any use it and the ones that do get a really pants frame rate increase because of it. If it was anything useful to the market then ATI would have used it with the X800/X850 cards, they didn't though because it is pretty much useless.

Buying a card because it has Shader 3.0 technology is crazy, especially seeing how much the X800/X850 XT PE cards out perform the 6800 Ultra cards in pretty much every major game despite still running 2.0.

It's another classic example of Nvidia trying to wow the market with something that has bagger all benefits for the users.
Fri 22/04/05 at 07:06
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Well Spikecast, the Club3D X850s have sold out - they have got some Sapphire ones in though:

[URL]https://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=307839&cks=SER[/URL]

Only £19 more!
Thu 21/04/05 at 22:49
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Modern cards are definitely future proof by a good 2 years.

I'd want my new card to do lots of things in the future that games don't necessetate now.

FarCry on Max is beautiful, though. My mate can run 4xAA at 1280 with everything maxed. I could swim forever.
Thu 21/04/05 at 18:53
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I can only dream of a 2x 6800GT or even Ultra SLI setup :D
Thu 21/04/05 at 18:32
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tigamilla wrote:
> There is not a single game currently out that uses Shader pixel
> 3.0...

Don't Splinter Cell 3, MOH Pacific Assault and others use SM3.0? Even so, more games will be using it in the future. If I'm spending £300 on a card I'd want it to use up to date tech. It may not be the big issue it's marketed to be, but I do think it should be a consideration.
Thu 21/04/05 at 18:08
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I may just go PCI-E now or in the near future. Saves me bothering with AGP considering ATI are supposed to be ditching it after the X850 range.
Thu 21/04/05 at 18:02
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Game wrote:

> 6800 series cards use the Shader 3.0 stuff and and many of todays top
> games are made with nVidia cards in mind.
>

There is not a single game currently out that uses Shader pixel 3.0...

Don't let that "Designed for Nvidia" thing deceive you!! <- Far Cry, UT2004 all feature this but, run much much faster on ATI hardware and look better (because you can turn Antialising and Aniso. filtering right up without too much of a perfomance hit, I was running UT2004 at 6XAA, 16XAF at 1600 X 1200 and never saw the fps counter drop below 85 on an X800XT PE, I would like to see an Ultra match that).

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