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Being a non-Christian is excellent, because I don't have to stick to a system of rules that govern how I live my life. It gets even better, because I don't feel that I have to impose my way of life on other people, opting instead for a simple, non-offensive attitude to see me through the day. This leads to meeting people that actually like me for the way I treat them with respect, and how I am tolerant of their beliefs. No-one can try to make me feel guilty or humble, by telling me that a total stranger, who may or not have existed 1000 years ago, died for my sins, which I hadn't even committed yet. The closest I've ever come to being emotionally blackmailed is by my cat, when it whines to get at the kitty treats. It learnt to shut up and wait.
I went to a Christian school - it was just nearer than all the other schools. I got good results, was polite, didn't smoke, drink, take drugs or play with girls - I was a model pupil. But I was still forced to repent my sins to someone else's God. If I didn't want to, fine, but I had to get up in front of the whole school and make a fool of myself because they snuck it in at the end of assembly. Despite this, I excelled in Religious Education, even though I had no interest in it. It got a bit boring, because we only ever learnt about one religion. If it wasn't for the fact that we had some Asian kids at our school, I would have been completely oblivious that any other religions actually existed outside of Christianity. Amazingly, we had a Jewish teacher for a subject that was basically a recruitment camp for a religion that shunned the plight of millions of Jews only 50 years ago. It's astonishing how totally blinkered and bias the RE syllabus is. I did hear recently that they were introducing other religions into the subject. What enlightened times we live in.
What I love most about being a Non-Christian, are the many fun and exciting ways there are of winding up the members of the Christian religion that take their faith a little too seriously. All you have to do is mention that there may be other forms of faith and religion that are better, or another God has a more booming voice and more arms, and they get all uppity. Sometimes it's not even a challenge. Take our beloved Forest Fan, for example. So convinced is he that his faith is the way forward for all humanity, he goes into this armadillo-type state of defensiveness should anybody question it. Honestly, he's more tightly wound-up than a Danish whirl in a vice. Have you ever seen anyone with shell shock? Sometimes they go into a trance, endlessly repeating phrases and sentences, over and over and over... That's what Forest Fan sounds like when you rattle his cage. Sorry to single him out, but he really is a babbling brook of bullsh*t.
One thing I do find interesting about the Christian faith, is the many ways of insulting us non-Christians. All that "thou shalt love my neighbour" nonsense goes straight out the window, if your neighbour is of a different religion. Christ on a bike, what if your neighbour is a gay!? Imagine that - a homosexual, living in a house, next door to you - would you love him (or her) then? You couldn't possibly, your religion forbids it. A gay Jew? What a mind-mental for the Christians! Imagine not knowing this vital information and then starting a conversation with one. What would your God think of you then? Better just isolate yourself from the rest of the world now. Better yet, find some fantastic way of forcing everyone else to be just like you - here's a fancy title you might like for your campaign: "The Final solution".
I was at the train station the other day, and there was a poster quoting a passage from the Bible in one of those big plastic-fronted advertising windows. It was basically calling me a fool. Now if I put up a poster saying "Suck my c*ck, or else you're a c*nt", it would get torn down pretty quickly, and I'd probably get lumped round the head a few times - even if I hid it behind some fancy religious posturing. So why should I put up with this childish name-calling? My example may have been a bit extreme, but the same sentiment is used - if you don't agree with my way of thinking, then I am allowed to call you names. There's no difference, it just gets shrugged off because the insult isn't harmful enough to penetrate. It just makes all Christians look like a bitter, hateful bunch, unable to see past their own misguided and outdated wisdom and lack of tolerance. Hopefully Forest Fan will reply to this, and you'll get some A1 examples of what I'm on about.
Yip, I'm a practising non-Christian, and damn proud of it.
I went to a Christian school - it was just nearer than all the other schools. I got good results, was polite, didn't smoke, drink, take drugs or play with girls - I was a model pupil. But I was still forced to repent my sins to someone else's God. If I didn't want to, fine, but I had to get up in front of the whole school and make a fool of myself because they snuck it in at the end of assembly. Despite this, I excelled in Religious Education, even though I had no interest in it. It got a bit boring, because we only ever learnt about one religion. If it wasn't for the fact that we had some Asian kids at our school, I would have been completely oblivious that any other religions actually existed outside of Christianity. Amazingly, we had a Jewish teacher for a subject that was basically a recruitment camp for a religion that shunned the plight of millions of Jews only 50 years ago. It's astonishing how totally blinkered and bias the RE syllabus is. I did hear recently that they were introducing other religions into the subject. What enlightened times we live in.
What I love most about being a Non-Christian, are the many fun and exciting ways there are of winding up the members of the Christian religion that take their faith a little too seriously. All you have to do is mention that there may be other forms of faith and religion that are better, or another God has a more booming voice and more arms, and they get all uppity. Sometimes it's not even a challenge. Take our beloved Forest Fan, for example. So convinced is he that his faith is the way forward for all humanity, he goes into this armadillo-type state of defensiveness should anybody question it. Honestly, he's more tightly wound-up than a Danish whirl in a vice. Have you ever seen anyone with shell shock? Sometimes they go into a trance, endlessly repeating phrases and sentences, over and over and over... That's what Forest Fan sounds like when you rattle his cage. Sorry to single him out, but he really is a babbling brook of bullsh*t.
One thing I do find interesting about the Christian faith, is the many ways of insulting us non-Christians. All that "thou shalt love my neighbour" nonsense goes straight out the window, if your neighbour is of a different religion. Christ on a bike, what if your neighbour is a gay!? Imagine that - a homosexual, living in a house, next door to you - would you love him (or her) then? You couldn't possibly, your religion forbids it. A gay Jew? What a mind-mental for the Christians! Imagine not knowing this vital information and then starting a conversation with one. What would your God think of you then? Better just isolate yourself from the rest of the world now. Better yet, find some fantastic way of forcing everyone else to be just like you - here's a fancy title you might like for your campaign: "The Final solution".
I was at the train station the other day, and there was a poster quoting a passage from the Bible in one of those big plastic-fronted advertising windows. It was basically calling me a fool. Now if I put up a poster saying "Suck my c*ck, or else you're a c*nt", it would get torn down pretty quickly, and I'd probably get lumped round the head a few times - even if I hid it behind some fancy religious posturing. So why should I put up with this childish name-calling? My example may have been a bit extreme, but the same sentiment is used - if you don't agree with my way of thinking, then I am allowed to call you names. There's no difference, it just gets shrugged off because the insult isn't harmful enough to penetrate. It just makes all Christians look like a bitter, hateful bunch, unable to see past their own misguided and outdated wisdom and lack of tolerance. Hopefully Forest Fan will reply to this, and you'll get some A1 examples of what I'm on about.
Yip, I'm a practising non-Christian, and damn proud of it.
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WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Kat wrote:
> I did RE at a non religious school
I was taught RE by an Atheist RE teacher..lol...he didn't give a monkeys about religion and seemed to do his best to convince us that it was all a load of ass really!
> Kat wrote:
> I did RE at a non religious school
I was taught RE by an Atheist RE teacher..lol...he didn't give a monkeys about religion and seemed to do his best to convince us that it was all a load of ass really!
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> When it comes to religion and worship, I definitely think black
> people have the right idea. Now THAT is a celebration - smiling
> faces, passion, and a great atmosphere. Always makes me wish I was
> there, even though I'm not a religious person.
Very, very true. Shouldn't church be a celebration of your faith rather than a lecture about sin, hell and damnation?
> When it comes to religion and worship, I definitely think black
> people have the right idea. Now THAT is a celebration - smiling
> faces, passion, and a great atmosphere. Always makes me wish I was
> there, even though I'm not a religious person.
Very, very true. Shouldn't church be a celebration of your faith rather than a lecture about sin, hell and damnation?
Kat wrote:
> I did RE at a non religious school
Many moons ago (many, many, many, many, MANY moons) I went to church schools.
Neither my mum or dad are at all religious, but from parentage, my mum is Jewish and my dad is Church of England. When we lived in London, I attended C of E schools; when we moved to Northampton, I attended a Roman Catholic school.
I passed my Religious Studies GCSE despite not being the least bit interested in the subject. That was thanks mostly to a couple of great teachers at the Catholic school who somehow made the lessons fun, and didn't care whether you believed it or not, as long as you learned what you needed to.
I think that has long been a problem with religion, especially as it's taught and practiced here. It's (usually) far too serious and as boring as hell. Considering it's supposed to be a celebration, it's far too stuffy and monotonous.
Look at the services on TV at Easter, Christmas etc. Do these look like people celebrating and enjoying themselves? Yeah, right. Visually, there's little difference between celebrations and funerals. People at church always seem to look as if it's a chore.
When it comes to religion and worship, I definitely think black people have the right idea. Now THAT is a celebration - smiling faces, passion, and a great atmosphere. Always makes me wish I was there, even though I'm not a religious person.
> I did RE at a non religious school
Many moons ago (many, many, many, many, MANY moons) I went to church schools.
Neither my mum or dad are at all religious, but from parentage, my mum is Jewish and my dad is Church of England. When we lived in London, I attended C of E schools; when we moved to Northampton, I attended a Roman Catholic school.
I passed my Religious Studies GCSE despite not being the least bit interested in the subject. That was thanks mostly to a couple of great teachers at the Catholic school who somehow made the lessons fun, and didn't care whether you believed it or not, as long as you learned what you needed to.
I think that has long been a problem with religion, especially as it's taught and practiced here. It's (usually) far too serious and as boring as hell. Considering it's supposed to be a celebration, it's far too stuffy and monotonous.
Look at the services on TV at Easter, Christmas etc. Do these look like people celebrating and enjoying themselves? Yeah, right. Visually, there's little difference between celebrations and funerals. People at church always seem to look as if it's a chore.
When it comes to religion and worship, I definitely think black people have the right idea. Now THAT is a celebration - smiling faces, passion, and a great atmosphere. Always makes me wish I was there, even though I'm not a religious person.
Blank wrote:
> That's not fair. One each, at least. If I have to faff around with
> turn taking, creating a rotar system etc, I'd rather not bother.
Yeah, but i'm sure that its something like this that is the bare minimum required.
> That's not fair. One each, at least. If I have to faff around with
> turn taking, creating a rotar system etc, I'd rather not bother.
Yeah, but i'm sure that its something like this that is the bare minimum required.
*POP*
Sorry, just wanted to get it up there with the other thread, they're like sister threads y'see.
Sorry, just wanted to get it up there with the other thread, they're like sister threads y'see.
Cyclone wrote:
> Hehe, I heard this today;
>
> 'Religious wars can be equated to two children arguing over who has
> the better imaginary friend'
>
> Me like.
Hehe...funny that is :)
> Hehe, I heard this today;
>
> 'Religious wars can be equated to two children arguing over who has
> the better imaginary friend'
>
> Me like.
Hehe...funny that is :)
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Isn't it something like 16 men and 7 women that are required to start
> off a line that will not stagnate and develop deformeties? I might be
> totally wrong though.
That's not fair. One each, at least. If I have to faff around with turn taking, creating a rotar system etc, I'd rather not bother.
> Isn't it something like 16 men and 7 women that are required to start
> off a line that will not stagnate and develop deformeties? I might be
> totally wrong though.
That's not fair. One each, at least. If I have to faff around with turn taking, creating a rotar system etc, I'd rather not bother.
Hehe, I heard this today;
'Religious wars can be equated to two children arguing over who has the better imaginary friend'
Me like.
'Religious wars can be equated to two children arguing over who has the better imaginary friend'
Me like.
cookie monster wrote:
> Heh, unless of course adam and eve were the epitome of perfect
> genetics.
Isn't it something like 16 men and 7 women that are required to start off a line that will not stagnate and develop deformeties? I might be totally wrong though.
> Heh, unless of course adam and eve were the epitome of perfect
> genetics.
Isn't it something like 16 men and 7 women that are required to start off a line that will not stagnate and develop deformeties? I might be totally wrong though.
Nice work. I must say, I had been putting off reading this post cos it was quite long, but it was extremely amusing to read!
I did RE at a non religious school, and to be honest, I don't remember learning much about the Christian religion, but lots about Hinduism, Sikhishm and muslim(ism - sp?!?) as we had quite a lot of Indians in our school. I did well at RE too, not cos I am religious, I suppose it's just amusing.
What I wonder though, is if you are sitting on the fence (of religion), what keeps you there and doesn't swiftly boot you over to our side (the dark side, apparently)? Cos I do know quite a few people that aren't religious but believe in God, and don't ask why or talk about it, and don't have any answers when I ask them but just kind of think he exists.
I did RE at a non religious school, and to be honest, I don't remember learning much about the Christian religion, but lots about Hinduism, Sikhishm and muslim(ism - sp?!?) as we had quite a lot of Indians in our school. I did well at RE too, not cos I am religious, I suppose it's just amusing.
What I wonder though, is if you are sitting on the fence (of religion), what keeps you there and doesn't swiftly boot you over to our side (the dark side, apparently)? Cos I do know quite a few people that aren't religious but believe in God, and don't ask why or talk about it, and don't have any answers when I ask them but just kind of think he exists.
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