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Mon 23/02/04 at 13:08
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"Wants Spymate on dv"
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You go out and buy a dvd, watch it and enjoy it, but wish it had a few better extra features or better transfer/sound. Then six months later an even better version of the film you own comes out in an all-new Special Edition guise, making your old copy obsolete.

Examples: Planet of the Apes (the ’68 version of course). This came out on dvd some time ago with few extra features, and recently arrived as a “35th Anniversary Edition” in the US with better transfer, more extras etc. But none of the extras were actually brand new, all just a collection of old material available for quite a few years, but it was all put in some nice all-new silver packaging.
Dawn of the Dead. You’d need another hand to count out how many versions of this are available or are coming out in the future. A new dvd is arriving in the US soon, I think with a Romero commentary, and I always hear rumours of some kind of 3 or 4 disc super version coming one day.
Enter the Dragon. I read today that a new region 2 version is coming out with a couple of new features, making the dvd not much better than the one before it.
Spider-Man. There could be a definitive 3-disc version out later this year.
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. A new version is coming out soon with lots of newly restored additional footage and other new extras.

Some of the best other examples are the Lord of the Rings films with the two different releases each film gets, The Matrix films will no doubt get some kind of super special trilogy boxset on top of the single film releases, and I’d read some time ago that the Kill Bill will be available in two separate dvds for each volume, then a boxset featuring loads more extras.

So the point is, why oh why don’t companies release a super definitive version of a film on dvd the first time around. Why must they continue to release a dvd, then a short time later release a better version? Why can’t they just release as good a version as possible and leave it at that?
I know the answer is about companies making more and more cash, but it’s just a shame for us poor saps who go and buy a dvd, only for that dvd to be superseded in a short space of time.

I own Dawn of the Dead on VHS, I also own the original region 2 dvd version and have it in the Trilogy of the Dead boxset. If a super 3 or 4 disc version comes out I will no doubt buy that too. When will it end? I can see in about 5 or 6 years time, I’ll own about 10 copies of DotD, each new dvd being better than the last, and all I know is that someone will have made a shed-load of cash from my pursuit of having the definitive release of a classic film.
I also love Trading Places. A fantastic comedy film and one of my all time favourites, yet I don't own it on dvd despite being a big dvd fan. Why? The answer is simple; the current Trading Places dvd is nothing special, apart from interactive menus and scene selection, so I know that eventually, a better version will come out, perhaps with a commentary with Landis, Murphy and Aykroyd. So, until that better dvd arrives, I'm not going to bother getting the old one, becuase I know that the day I give in and buy the old one, they'll announce the all-new definitve super version with loads of great extras and commentary.

I guess that maybe nowadays with the advent of dvd, film releases are an ever evolving product, with each bit of new audio and visual technology being used to create even better transfers and sound, and new innovative extras being created for old films, and anniversaries of certain classic films being marked with all-new dvd releases. It’s still no consolation to my bank balance though.
Mon 23/02/04 at 15:34
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Why oh why do people continue to keep buying the "super duper most bestest ever version (until the next one) that has ever existed ever (see brackets)" keep buying the new version?

You've hit the nail on the head, money, that's all these newer versions are released for, making the film companies millions more.

I knew the first LotR film would have a big box version so I waited for that, same with the Two Towers, I waited for that as well, same as I'll wait for the 3rd installment.

Until people stop buying these "super duper most bestest ever version (until the next one) that has ever existed ever (see brackets)" versions then they'll keep on releasing them and people will continue to moan about spending more money.
Mon 23/02/04 at 13:36
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"Wants Spymate on dv"
Posts: 3,025
Ah yes, T2 was one I'd forgotten about. I owned the Ultimate Edtion, then the Extreme Edition came out, and it wasn't really that much better. Bah.
Mon 23/02/04 at 13:11
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yep

Aliens Special Edition
The Abyss Special Edition
Terminator 2 Ultimate Edition
Mon 23/02/04 at 13:09
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"That's right!"
Posts: 10,645
Yeah, or you buy a film, then a mega super pack comes out with all the films in that series - like the Dead trilogy, or the Tom Clancy based films.

Rather annoys me.
Mon 23/02/04 at 13:08
Regular
"Wants Spymate on dv"
Posts: 3,025
You go out and buy a dvd, watch it and enjoy it, but wish it had a few better extra features or better transfer/sound. Then six months later an even better version of the film you own comes out in an all-new Special Edition guise, making your old copy obsolete.

Examples: Planet of the Apes (the ’68 version of course). This came out on dvd some time ago with few extra features, and recently arrived as a “35th Anniversary Edition” in the US with better transfer, more extras etc. But none of the extras were actually brand new, all just a collection of old material available for quite a few years, but it was all put in some nice all-new silver packaging.
Dawn of the Dead. You’d need another hand to count out how many versions of this are available or are coming out in the future. A new dvd is arriving in the US soon, I think with a Romero commentary, and I always hear rumours of some kind of 3 or 4 disc super version coming one day.
Enter the Dragon. I read today that a new region 2 version is coming out with a couple of new features, making the dvd not much better than the one before it.
Spider-Man. There could be a definitive 3-disc version out later this year.
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. A new version is coming out soon with lots of newly restored additional footage and other new extras.

Some of the best other examples are the Lord of the Rings films with the two different releases each film gets, The Matrix films will no doubt get some kind of super special trilogy boxset on top of the single film releases, and I’d read some time ago that the Kill Bill will be available in two separate dvds for each volume, then a boxset featuring loads more extras.

So the point is, why oh why don’t companies release a super definitive version of a film on dvd the first time around. Why must they continue to release a dvd, then a short time later release a better version? Why can’t they just release as good a version as possible and leave it at that?
I know the answer is about companies making more and more cash, but it’s just a shame for us poor saps who go and buy a dvd, only for that dvd to be superseded in a short space of time.

I own Dawn of the Dead on VHS, I also own the original region 2 dvd version and have it in the Trilogy of the Dead boxset. If a super 3 or 4 disc version comes out I will no doubt buy that too. When will it end? I can see in about 5 or 6 years time, I’ll own about 10 copies of DotD, each new dvd being better than the last, and all I know is that someone will have made a shed-load of cash from my pursuit of having the definitive release of a classic film.
I also love Trading Places. A fantastic comedy film and one of my all time favourites, yet I don't own it on dvd despite being a big dvd fan. Why? The answer is simple; the current Trading Places dvd is nothing special, apart from interactive menus and scene selection, so I know that eventually, a better version will come out, perhaps with a commentary with Landis, Murphy and Aykroyd. So, until that better dvd arrives, I'm not going to bother getting the old one, becuase I know that the day I give in and buy the old one, they'll announce the all-new definitve super version with loads of great extras and commentary.

I guess that maybe nowadays with the advent of dvd, film releases are an ever evolving product, with each bit of new audio and visual technology being used to create even better transfers and sound, and new innovative extras being created for old films, and anniversaries of certain classic films being marked with all-new dvd releases. It’s still no consolation to my bank balance though.

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