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Mon 16/02/04 at 09:48
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Ok this is the place for chatting about the PPV last night, No Way Out.
(You don't have to use this board if you don't want to)
I will just sum up what happened;

Eddie Guerrero defeated Brock Lesnar for the WWE Championship. Wohoo!

Kurt Angle defeated Big Show and John Cena so now he goes on to Wrestlemania to face Eddie.

Rikishi & Scotty 2 Hotty defeated the Basham Brothers & Shaniqua to retain the WWE Tag Team Championship

Hardcore Holly defeated Rhyno

Chavo Guerrero defeated Rey Mysterio to win the Cruiserweight Championship.

The Self Proclaimed World's Greatest Tag Team beat the A.P.A

Jamie Noble defeated Nidia via submission.

And Goldberg Speared and Jackhammered Brock Lesnar.
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Not a bad night. Good to see Eddie winning the Gold. His mum and Dad where
in the crowd which was good to see.
There where some decent adverts for DVD's. Mick Foley's and The Monday night war.
So it looks like the card for wrestlemania is just what everyone knew it was going to be. Michael Cole and Tazz need to get a life. They kept on getting annoyed about Goldberg.
A very good PPV. Well in our case, a Free per View.
MWAHAHAHAHA America.
Thu 19/02/04 at 20:28
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Haha...very funny. Haven't you ever made a mistake?
Thu 19/02/04 at 20:23
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"Far Beyond Metal"
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Heh. :D
Thu 19/02/04 at 19:46
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Lipe wrote:
> Oh, I see YOU'RE back. Please understand that I am a complete child and will act conceitedly.

True.
Thu 19/02/04 at 16:15
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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†hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> Well, maybe some of Smackdowns buried faces should be switched to
> Smackdown? RVD in particular would be a very good fit for Smackdown
> and I'm sure there are others

You obviously mean Raw, so I'll let you off. :)

Anyway, yes, Raw could use with switching a few guys over but there seems to be no intention by the WWE that they will do that. Everyone is trading from Smackdown to Raw with no replacements.

> Problem is...pretty soon HHH will run out of faces completely, but
> he's too stubborn and blind to the fact that he is killing Raw and
> will eventually make himself look bad as he has to drop the title to
> someone he's made look weak.

Nah, he probably just keep the title and trade it with HBK for the next year.

> As for no obvious replacements on Smackdown, there are an awful lot of smaller wrestlers

Agreed. They'll never get the chance unless they stand out as different for years, like Benoit and Eddie.

> Until HHH buries Benoit that is...

From the looks of things, it seems likely that they are going to delay Benoit's title win again...
Thu 19/02/04 at 14:42
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Grandprix wrote:
> Actually, wrestling wise, Smackdown is better than Raw at the moment.
> The thing about Raw at the moment is that HHH is making Raw a faces
> graveyard, supressing all the people that could rival his position at
> the top of the show. Smackdown is more neutral as Eddie's title win
> proved.

Well, maybe some of Smackdowns buried faces should be switched to Smackdown? RVD in particular would be a very good fit for Smackdown and I'm sure there are others, but my brain is dead from juggling figures today...
>
> The problem is HHH wants new people to wrestle against because
> 'amazingly' *sarcasm* hardly any face on Raw, except HBK, is over
> with the fans. That's why Benoit and possibly Edge are moving across
> to Raw with no obvious replacements heading to Smackdown. That's why
> Smackdown are forced to push people like Hardcore Holly and Rhyno
> because there is no one left.

Problem is...pretty soon HHH will run out of faces completely, but he's too stubborn and blind to the fact that he is killing Raw and will eventually make himself look bad as he has to drop the title to someone he's made look weak. As for no obvious replacements on Smackdown, there are an awful lot of smaller wrestlers who seem to have been banished to the lowest depths of velocity who could do a better job than Holly and Rhyno...and even the FBI are better than the APA...
>
> It's a big mess at the moment because Smackdown's roster is so weak
> but Raw is full of buried faces that need a chance to shine. Benoit
> is probably the difference between Smackdown winning the war every
> week to Raw being the better wrestling show.

Until HHH buries Benoit that is...
Thu 19/02/04 at 10:42
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Oh, I see your back. Please refrain from talking about me, talking to me, don't even mention anything that's to do with me.
Wed 18/02/04 at 21:37
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Lipe wrote:

> Nope, you're wrong. No Way Out was actually 2 hours and 30 minutes,
> one of the shortest PPV's I've seen, and please, next time you make a
> review had a bit more text on each match.

Are you actually a child? or just someone who has the brain of a 6 year old?
Wed 18/02/04 at 18:37
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"Far Beyond Metal"
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Thats why they should bring the brands back together. :)
Wed 18/02/04 at 17:15
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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Actually, wrestling wise, Smackdown is better than Raw at the moment. The thing about Raw at the moment is that HHH is making Raw a faces graveyard, supressing all the people that could rival his position at the top of the show. Smackdown is more neutral as Eddie's title win proved.

The problem is HHH wants new people to wrestle against because 'amazingly' *sarcasm* hardly any face on Raw, except HBK, is over with the fans. That's why Benoit and possibly Edge are moving across to Raw with no obvious replacements heading to Smackdown. That's why Smackdown are forced to push people like Hardcore Holly and Rhyno because there is no one left.

It's a big mess at the moment because Smackdown's roster is so weak but Raw is full of buried faces that need a chance to shine. Benoit is probably the difference between Smackdown winning the war every week to Raw being the better wrestling show.
Wed 18/02/04 at 17:07
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This just goes to show that RAW is better than Smackdown.

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