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The American author Morgan Robertson (1861 - 1915) published in 1898 the short fictional novel "Futility" in which a British passenger liner called the 'Titan' hits an iceberg and sinks on her maiden voyage without enough lifeboats in the month of April in the North Atlantic
The fictional ship is eerily similar to the yet-to-be conceived Titanic in size, speed, equipment, numbers of passengers (both rich and poor), and those lost.
Both ships were British and sailed in April with a top speed of 24 knots. They had the same passenger and crew capacity of 3,000 but sailed with a little over 2,000. Also they were between 800 and 900 feet long and driven with triple propellers. Each also sank 95 miles south of the banks of Greenland.
Here's the most astonishing fact: both ships sank after being pierced by an iceberg on their starboard side.!.!.!
Kind of strange, don't you think? Especially when you remember that the novel was written 14 years before the Titanic disaster. When Robertson wrote "Futility", there were no ships anywhere near the size of the Titanic in use, or being built.
Robertson was trying to illustrate mankind's growing lack of respect for the forces of nature, and the increasingly dangerous reliance on technology with the novel.
http://www.euronet.nl/users/keesree/intro.htm
But the strange coincidences do not end there. The famous journalist W. T. Stead published, in 1892, a short story that proved to be a preview of the Titanic disaster. Stead was a spiritualist: He was also one of the 1,513 people who died when the Titanic went down.
Backward recollection
Neither Robertson's horror novel nor Stead's prophetic story served as a warning to the Titanic's captain in 1912. But a recollection of that appalling tragedy did save another ship in similar circumstances 23 years later.
A young seaman named William Reeves was standing watch in the bow of a tramp steamer, Canada-bound from England in 1935. It was April-the month of the iceberg disasters, real and fictional-and young Reeves had brooded deeply on them. His watch was due to end at midnight. This, he knew, was the time the Titanic had hit the iceberg. Then, as now, the sea had been calm.
These thoughts took shape and swelled into omens in the seaman's mind as he stood his lonely watch. His tired, bloodshot eyes strained ahead for any sign of danger, but if there was nothing to be seen; nothing but a horizonless, impenetrable gloom. He was scared to shout an alarm, fearing his shipmate's ridicule. But he also was scared not to do so.
Then, suddenly, he remembered the exact date of the Titanic accident-April 14, 1912. The coincidence was terrifying-it was the day he had been born. He shouted a danger warning, and the helmsman rang the signal: engines full astern. The ship churned to a halt-just yards from a huge iceberg that towered menacingly out of the night.
More deadly icebergs crowded in around the tramp steamer, and it took nine days for icebreakers from Newfoundland to smash a way clear.
The name of the ship that nearly shared the Titanic's fate was, ironically, the Titanian
http://www.mjt.nu/titanic.htm
The fictional ship is eerily similar to the yet-to-be conceived Titanic in size, speed, equipment, numbers of passengers (both rich and poor), and those lost.
Both ships were British and sailed in April with a top speed of 24 knots. They had the same passenger and crew capacity of 3,000 but sailed with a little over 2,000. Also they were between 800 and 900 feet long and driven with triple propellers. Each also sank 95 miles south of the banks of Greenland.
Here's the most astonishing fact: both ships sank after being pierced by an iceberg on their starboard side.!.!.!
Kind of strange, don't you think? Especially when you remember that the novel was written 14 years before the Titanic disaster. When Robertson wrote "Futility", there were no ships anywhere near the size of the Titanic in use, or being built.
Robertson was trying to illustrate mankind's growing lack of respect for the forces of nature, and the increasingly dangerous reliance on technology with the novel.
http://www.euronet.nl/users/keesree/intro.htm
But the strange coincidences do not end there. The famous journalist W. T. Stead published, in 1892, a short story that proved to be a preview of the Titanic disaster. Stead was a spiritualist: He was also one of the 1,513 people who died when the Titanic went down.
Backward recollection
Neither Robertson's horror novel nor Stead's prophetic story served as a warning to the Titanic's captain in 1912. But a recollection of that appalling tragedy did save another ship in similar circumstances 23 years later.
A young seaman named William Reeves was standing watch in the bow of a tramp steamer, Canada-bound from England in 1935. It was April-the month of the iceberg disasters, real and fictional-and young Reeves had brooded deeply on them. His watch was due to end at midnight. This, he knew, was the time the Titanic had hit the iceberg. Then, as now, the sea had been calm.
These thoughts took shape and swelled into omens in the seaman's mind as he stood his lonely watch. His tired, bloodshot eyes strained ahead for any sign of danger, but if there was nothing to be seen; nothing but a horizonless, impenetrable gloom. He was scared to shout an alarm, fearing his shipmate's ridicule. But he also was scared not to do so.
Then, suddenly, he remembered the exact date of the Titanic accident-April 14, 1912. The coincidence was terrifying-it was the day he had been born. He shouted a danger warning, and the helmsman rang the signal: engines full astern. The ship churned to a halt-just yards from a huge iceberg that towered menacingly out of the night.
More deadly icebergs crowded in around the tramp steamer, and it took nine days for icebreakers from Newfoundland to smash a way clear.
The name of the ship that nearly shared the Titanic's fate was, ironically, the Titanian
http://www.mjt.nu/titanic.htm
Agreed. If you look hard enough for co-incidences, you will find them.
How many dumb theories were founded on the back of the WTC attacks?
I'm assuming the author will have done some research into ship design, to be able to envisage a ship of the proprtions he wanted in a realistic manner. That's where you get your ship size similarities from. Iceberg is the most obvious way to bring down something that big, either that or running aground, which is less likely. I could go on, but I won't.
How many dumb theories were founded on the back of the WTC attacks?
I'm assuming the author will have done some research into ship design, to be able to envisage a ship of the proprtions he wanted in a realistic manner. That's where you get your ship size similarities from. Iceberg is the most obvious way to bring down something that big, either that or running aground, which is less likely. I could go on, but I won't.
I don't find it very surprising that fiction was written which later was seen as similar to real events.
Take the first author, she named the ship Titan because of the imagery of the name and the meaning, the exact same kind of reasons that the real ship was named Titanic for.
Even though ships at that time were not that big it would not have been inconceivable for them to one day be that big, in the same way that there is fiction about going to Mars because we know it will eventually be possible, but also it makes a better story that something go wrong.
Buzz Aldrin wrote a book several years ago in which a Space Shuttle explodes in mid air, just like Columbia. It is scarily reminiscent of that disaster but only because he wrote it in detail using his knowledge of the space programme.
Take the first author, she named the ship Titan because of the imagery of the name and the meaning, the exact same kind of reasons that the real ship was named Titanic for.
Even though ships at that time were not that big it would not have been inconceivable for them to one day be that big, in the same way that there is fiction about going to Mars because we know it will eventually be possible, but also it makes a better story that something go wrong.
Buzz Aldrin wrote a book several years ago in which a Space Shuttle explodes in mid air, just like Columbia. It is scarily reminiscent of that disaster but only because he wrote it in detail using his knowledge of the space programme.
ßora† SagdiyeV wrote:
> If all that's true it's quite amazing. If we are to believe that
> clairvoyance is a very real skill, that works even on the most
> sub-conscious level, though, then that would surely mean that the
> future is already set, and that everyone has a pre-written destiny.
>
> Something I am keen to discount as it means we are all pawns in a
> game we have no control over.
I possess clairvoyancy: just the other day I predicted that if I put my hand into the food blender and turned it on, I'd end up in hospital. You know what, i crtxd7yyk vn, vn. cant typetoo goosd with m re left hasndf tyhogh!"
> If all that's true it's quite amazing. If we are to believe that
> clairvoyance is a very real skill, that works even on the most
> sub-conscious level, though, then that would surely mean that the
> future is already set, and that everyone has a pre-written destiny.
>
> Something I am keen to discount as it means we are all pawns in a
> game we have no control over.
I possess clairvoyancy: just the other day I predicted that if I put my hand into the food blender and turned it on, I'd end up in hospital. You know what, i crtxd7yyk vn, vn. cant typetoo goosd with m re left hasndf tyhogh!"
If all that's true it's quite amazing. If we are to believe that clairvoyance is a very real skill, that works even on the most sub-conscious level, though, then that would surely mean that the future is already set, and that everyone has a pre-written destiny.
Something I am keen to discount as it means we are all pawns in a game we have no control over.
Something I am keen to discount as it means we are all pawns in a game we have no control over.
monkey_man wrote:
> And some people don't even believe in the Bible code *tut*
Hehe, I just thought it waas an intersting email to receive on a Wednesday morning and thought I'd share it ;)
> And some people don't even believe in the Bible code *tut*
Hehe, I just thought it waas an intersting email to receive on a Wednesday morning and thought I'd share it ;)
And some people don't even believe in the Bible code *tut*
The American author Morgan Robertson (1861 - 1915) published in 1898 the short fictional novel "Futility" in which a British passenger liner called the 'Titan' hits an iceberg and sinks on her maiden voyage without enough lifeboats in the month of April in the North Atlantic
The fictional ship is eerily similar to the yet-to-be conceived Titanic in size, speed, equipment, numbers of passengers (both rich and poor), and those lost.
Both ships were British and sailed in April with a top speed of 24 knots. They had the same passenger and crew capacity of 3,000 but sailed with a little over 2,000. Also they were between 800 and 900 feet long and driven with triple propellers. Each also sank 95 miles south of the banks of Greenland.
Here's the most astonishing fact: both ships sank after being pierced by an iceberg on their starboard side.!.!.!
Kind of strange, don't you think? Especially when you remember that the novel was written 14 years before the Titanic disaster. When Robertson wrote "Futility", there were no ships anywhere near the size of the Titanic in use, or being built.
Robertson was trying to illustrate mankind's growing lack of respect for the forces of nature, and the increasingly dangerous reliance on technology with the novel.
http://www.euronet.nl/users/keesree/intro.htm
But the strange coincidences do not end there. The famous journalist W. T. Stead published, in 1892, a short story that proved to be a preview of the Titanic disaster. Stead was a spiritualist: He was also one of the 1,513 people who died when the Titanic went down.
Backward recollection
Neither Robertson's horror novel nor Stead's prophetic story served as a warning to the Titanic's captain in 1912. But a recollection of that appalling tragedy did save another ship in similar circumstances 23 years later.
A young seaman named William Reeves was standing watch in the bow of a tramp steamer, Canada-bound from England in 1935. It was April-the month of the iceberg disasters, real and fictional-and young Reeves had brooded deeply on them. His watch was due to end at midnight. This, he knew, was the time the Titanic had hit the iceberg. Then, as now, the sea had been calm.
These thoughts took shape and swelled into omens in the seaman's mind as he stood his lonely watch. His tired, bloodshot eyes strained ahead for any sign of danger, but if there was nothing to be seen; nothing but a horizonless, impenetrable gloom. He was scared to shout an alarm, fearing his shipmate's ridicule. But he also was scared not to do so.
Then, suddenly, he remembered the exact date of the Titanic accident-April 14, 1912. The coincidence was terrifying-it was the day he had been born. He shouted a danger warning, and the helmsman rang the signal: engines full astern. The ship churned to a halt-just yards from a huge iceberg that towered menacingly out of the night.
More deadly icebergs crowded in around the tramp steamer, and it took nine days for icebreakers from Newfoundland to smash a way clear.
The name of the ship that nearly shared the Titanic's fate was, ironically, the Titanian
http://www.mjt.nu/titanic.htm
The fictional ship is eerily similar to the yet-to-be conceived Titanic in size, speed, equipment, numbers of passengers (both rich and poor), and those lost.
Both ships were British and sailed in April with a top speed of 24 knots. They had the same passenger and crew capacity of 3,000 but sailed with a little over 2,000. Also they were between 800 and 900 feet long and driven with triple propellers. Each also sank 95 miles south of the banks of Greenland.
Here's the most astonishing fact: both ships sank after being pierced by an iceberg on their starboard side.!.!.!
Kind of strange, don't you think? Especially when you remember that the novel was written 14 years before the Titanic disaster. When Robertson wrote "Futility", there were no ships anywhere near the size of the Titanic in use, or being built.
Robertson was trying to illustrate mankind's growing lack of respect for the forces of nature, and the increasingly dangerous reliance on technology with the novel.
http://www.euronet.nl/users/keesree/intro.htm
But the strange coincidences do not end there. The famous journalist W. T. Stead published, in 1892, a short story that proved to be a preview of the Titanic disaster. Stead was a spiritualist: He was also one of the 1,513 people who died when the Titanic went down.
Backward recollection
Neither Robertson's horror novel nor Stead's prophetic story served as a warning to the Titanic's captain in 1912. But a recollection of that appalling tragedy did save another ship in similar circumstances 23 years later.
A young seaman named William Reeves was standing watch in the bow of a tramp steamer, Canada-bound from England in 1935. It was April-the month of the iceberg disasters, real and fictional-and young Reeves had brooded deeply on them. His watch was due to end at midnight. This, he knew, was the time the Titanic had hit the iceberg. Then, as now, the sea had been calm.
These thoughts took shape and swelled into omens in the seaman's mind as he stood his lonely watch. His tired, bloodshot eyes strained ahead for any sign of danger, but if there was nothing to be seen; nothing but a horizonless, impenetrable gloom. He was scared to shout an alarm, fearing his shipmate's ridicule. But he also was scared not to do so.
Then, suddenly, he remembered the exact date of the Titanic accident-April 14, 1912. The coincidence was terrifying-it was the day he had been born. He shouted a danger warning, and the helmsman rang the signal: engines full astern. The ship churned to a halt-just yards from a huge iceberg that towered menacingly out of the night.
More deadly icebergs crowded in around the tramp steamer, and it took nine days for icebreakers from Newfoundland to smash a way clear.
The name of the ship that nearly shared the Titanic's fate was, ironically, the Titanian
http://www.mjt.nu/titanic.htm