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Recent news headlines.
Foundation Hospitals. Legislation pushed through by a slim majority, pushed through by the votes of Scottish MPs who rejected the same legislation for their country, their constituencies. But they choose to force it upon the rest of the UK, using unconstitutional powers, for the sake of cheap partisan tactics. They’ve sold us up the river just to avoid losing face to the Tories.
Under Thatcher competition between NHS hospitals ultimately const lives, and there seems to be no reason why it’ll be different this time.
The MPs that voted against foundation hospitals agree with me, it will cost lives. So do those Scottish MPs who prevented the measures being adopted in Scotland, then forced it on the rest of the UK. So do the other MPs who fell into line to stop Labour losing face, whatever the cost. The latter two groups have blood on their hands.
Against the consensus of the people of Britain, Blair has forced foundation hospitals upon us. Just like he wants to force variable top-up fees on us. Just like he’s forced constitutional changes on us. Just like he plans to force his decision on the EU constitution on us, no referendum for his subjects.
Of course, technically he has the power. In the same way those Scottish MPs technically had the power to push foundation hospitals legislation through.
But we supposedly live in a democracy. That has to be more than the chance (for those who bother) to pick a new master every 5 years. Those powers have to be exercised to benefit and serve the people. Otherwise we’re little more than a string of short-term dictatorships.
He knows how much he can get away with, and he’s going to take every inch.
‘The big conversation’? We’ve already been told Blair won’t back down on any of the big contentious issues. What sort of conversation can we have?
‘We don’t want foundation hospitals’
‘Shut up, I’m in charge now’
‘We don’t want variable top-up fees’
‘Shut up’
‘We want a referendum on the EU constitution’
‘Shut up, grab your ankles and smile for me’
Meanwhile terrorists kill civilians in Russia, Israel, Iraq, militaries kill civilians in Iraq, Palestine, and that’s just what makes recent headlines.
Which brings us back home, to terrorists trying to kill us. The country’s on what, the second highest possible state of alert, one man in custody, Richard Reed’s old buddy, with explosives of his own found at home.
But the screwing works both ways, as our government use powers which derogate from the European Convention on Human Rights to abuse those they allege of terrorism.
And did anyone hear that government representative on people mistakenly believing the 45 minutes was the time it’d take for Saddam to attack us, when actually it was 45 minutes for use on a battlefield? Apparently it’s our fault, they didn’t technically specify the 45 minute threat was to *us*, people just leapt all the way to that conclusion.
Belldandy’s used the same argument on these forums before. I didn’t realise he was a civil servant, but it kind of figures ;^)
I said then as I say now, they allow, and indeed encouraged people to make that assumption. It’s just as dishonest as lying outright.
Of course, if people weren’t so lame as to lose sight of Blair’s old acknowledgement that there was no direct threat from Iraq directly, the 45 minute thing would have been transparent. But people suck, and they were duped again.
So yeah, we’re a nation of mongs, but that doesn’t give a moral carte blanche to con men who rob us blind.
Georgia’s ‘bloodless revolution’ looked like a ray of hope – a corrupt government ousted without bloodshed, mankind’s finest hour for quite a few years.
Enter the US, Russia and BP’s oil line. Let the tug of war begin.
All I wanted was a decent job, some recreational basketball and to run some racks of pool for a county side, without terrorists trying to kill me or my government trying to abuse me, steal my rights away and reel out lies with wilful abandon.
And the really sad thing is, on a global scale, I’m lucky to have things so good.
Thanks for reading, if you did.
Foundation Hospitals. Legislation pushed through by a slim majority, pushed through by the votes of Scottish MPs who rejected the same legislation for their country, their constituencies. But they choose to force it upon the rest of the UK, using unconstitutional powers, for the sake of cheap partisan tactics. They’ve sold us up the river just to avoid losing face to the Tories.
Under Thatcher competition between NHS hospitals ultimately const lives, and there seems to be no reason why it’ll be different this time.
The MPs that voted against foundation hospitals agree with me, it will cost lives. So do those Scottish MPs who prevented the measures being adopted in Scotland, then forced it on the rest of the UK. So do the other MPs who fell into line to stop Labour losing face, whatever the cost. The latter two groups have blood on their hands.
Against the consensus of the people of Britain, Blair has forced foundation hospitals upon us. Just like he wants to force variable top-up fees on us. Just like he’s forced constitutional changes on us. Just like he plans to force his decision on the EU constitution on us, no referendum for his subjects.
Of course, technically he has the power. In the same way those Scottish MPs technically had the power to push foundation hospitals legislation through.
But we supposedly live in a democracy. That has to be more than the chance (for those who bother) to pick a new master every 5 years. Those powers have to be exercised to benefit and serve the people. Otherwise we’re little more than a string of short-term dictatorships.
He knows how much he can get away with, and he’s going to take every inch.
‘The big conversation’? We’ve already been told Blair won’t back down on any of the big contentious issues. What sort of conversation can we have?
‘We don’t want foundation hospitals’
‘Shut up, I’m in charge now’
‘We don’t want variable top-up fees’
‘Shut up’
‘We want a referendum on the EU constitution’
‘Shut up, grab your ankles and smile for me’
Meanwhile terrorists kill civilians in Russia, Israel, Iraq, militaries kill civilians in Iraq, Palestine, and that’s just what makes recent headlines.
Which brings us back home, to terrorists trying to kill us. The country’s on what, the second highest possible state of alert, one man in custody, Richard Reed’s old buddy, with explosives of his own found at home.
But the screwing works both ways, as our government use powers which derogate from the European Convention on Human Rights to abuse those they allege of terrorism.
And did anyone hear that government representative on people mistakenly believing the 45 minutes was the time it’d take for Saddam to attack us, when actually it was 45 minutes for use on a battlefield? Apparently it’s our fault, they didn’t technically specify the 45 minute threat was to *us*, people just leapt all the way to that conclusion.
Belldandy’s used the same argument on these forums before. I didn’t realise he was a civil servant, but it kind of figures ;^)
I said then as I say now, they allow, and indeed encouraged people to make that assumption. It’s just as dishonest as lying outright.
Of course, if people weren’t so lame as to lose sight of Blair’s old acknowledgement that there was no direct threat from Iraq directly, the 45 minute thing would have been transparent. But people suck, and they were duped again.
So yeah, we’re a nation of mongs, but that doesn’t give a moral carte blanche to con men who rob us blind.
Georgia’s ‘bloodless revolution’ looked like a ray of hope – a corrupt government ousted without bloodshed, mankind’s finest hour for quite a few years.
Enter the US, Russia and BP’s oil line. Let the tug of war begin.
All I wanted was a decent job, some recreational basketball and to run some racks of pool for a county side, without terrorists trying to kill me or my government trying to abuse me, steal my rights away and reel out lies with wilful abandon.
And the really sad thing is, on a global scale, I’m lucky to have things so good.
Thanks for reading, if you did.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Well, the british public voted him in (those that oculd be bothered to
> do so anyway), so obviously we want what he's doing for us, or
> otherwise don't care.
We voted him in as a socialist lefty. He's since become an authoritarian righty.
If we voted Howard in next time and he immediately abandonned his manifesto policies, replacing them with a strategy of genocide to mancunians, would that be what the electorate wanted, just because we voted him in?
> Put the lib dems in power, and don't actually think
> they'd know what to do. Have they actually ever been in power?
Heh, perhaps, but maybe they could do a decent job, and I figure that's the only hope we've got!
> Politics would be funny if it weren't quite so tragic.
Agreed
> Well, the british public voted him in (those that oculd be bothered to
> do so anyway), so obviously we want what he's doing for us, or
> otherwise don't care.
We voted him in as a socialist lefty. He's since become an authoritarian righty.
If we voted Howard in next time and he immediately abandonned his manifesto policies, replacing them with a strategy of genocide to mancunians, would that be what the electorate wanted, just because we voted him in?
> Put the lib dems in power, and don't actually think
> they'd know what to do. Have they actually ever been in power?
Heh, perhaps, but maybe they could do a decent job, and I figure that's the only hope we've got!
> Politics would be funny if it weren't quite so tragic.
Agreed
Well, the british public voted him in (those that oculd be bothered to do so anyway), so obviously we want what he's doing for us, or otherwise don't care.
Personally, I'm in the 'don't care' category. I seriously don't believe that things would be any different under another party.
Put the tories back in power, they'll be just like they were last time, corrupt. Put the lib dems in power, and don't actually think they'd know what to do. Have they actually ever been in power?
And, amusingly, should a new party get elected in a few years time, do you think they'll say "haharr, we shall now undo all the evil stuff blair did to you good english folk!"? Of course not. They'll keep it in place as a political tool for the entire duration of their stay in office, quoting every budget day why something the labour party did is forcing them to spend money on things other than what the people want to spend money on.
The gibbering mongs in parliament will then shout and scream at eachother like a bunch of spoilt children refusing to be upstagde, despite being live on national television, resolving nothing, getting nowhere.
Politics would be funny if it weren't quite so tragic.
Personally, I'm in the 'don't care' category. I seriously don't believe that things would be any different under another party.
Put the tories back in power, they'll be just like they were last time, corrupt. Put the lib dems in power, and don't actually think they'd know what to do. Have they actually ever been in power?
And, amusingly, should a new party get elected in a few years time, do you think they'll say "haharr, we shall now undo all the evil stuff blair did to you good english folk!"? Of course not. They'll keep it in place as a political tool for the entire duration of their stay in office, quoting every budget day why something the labour party did is forcing them to spend money on things other than what the people want to spend money on.
The gibbering mongs in parliament will then shout and scream at eachother like a bunch of spoilt children refusing to be upstagde, despite being live on national television, resolving nothing, getting nowhere.
Politics would be funny if it weren't quite so tragic.
Strafex wrote:
> Now would be a good time for someone to start a NEW party...
Alright, I'm in. What shall we call it?
:^)
> Now would be a good time for someone to start a NEW party...
Alright, I'm in. What shall we call it?
:^)
It was great seeing him overthrow the tories back in 96, but the guy's becoming a pain in the asss now.
Is everyone going to vote Democrats now?
It's the 1980's all over again.
The tories won and made a mess of so much, but instead of taking advantage, Labour split up into two groups and went all extremest and basically dissolved any competition the tories might have had.
So now the tories have split (not that we'd want them anyway) and Labour are screwing around big time.
Now would be a good time for someone to start a NEW party...
Is everyone going to vote Democrats now?
It's the 1980's all over again.
The tories won and made a mess of so much, but instead of taking advantage, Labour split up into two groups and went all extremest and basically dissolved any competition the tories might have had.
So now the tories have split (not that we'd want them anyway) and Labour are screwing around big time.
Now would be a good time for someone to start a NEW party...
Recent news headlines.
Foundation Hospitals. Legislation pushed through by a slim majority, pushed through by the votes of Scottish MPs who rejected the same legislation for their country, their constituencies. But they choose to force it upon the rest of the UK, using unconstitutional powers, for the sake of cheap partisan tactics. They’ve sold us up the river just to avoid losing face to the Tories.
Under Thatcher competition between NHS hospitals ultimately const lives, and there seems to be no reason why it’ll be different this time.
The MPs that voted against foundation hospitals agree with me, it will cost lives. So do those Scottish MPs who prevented the measures being adopted in Scotland, then forced it on the rest of the UK. So do the other MPs who fell into line to stop Labour losing face, whatever the cost. The latter two groups have blood on their hands.
Against the consensus of the people of Britain, Blair has forced foundation hospitals upon us. Just like he wants to force variable top-up fees on us. Just like he’s forced constitutional changes on us. Just like he plans to force his decision on the EU constitution on us, no referendum for his subjects.
Of course, technically he has the power. In the same way those Scottish MPs technically had the power to push foundation hospitals legislation through.
But we supposedly live in a democracy. That has to be more than the chance (for those who bother) to pick a new master every 5 years. Those powers have to be exercised to benefit and serve the people. Otherwise we’re little more than a string of short-term dictatorships.
He knows how much he can get away with, and he’s going to take every inch.
‘The big conversation’? We’ve already been told Blair won’t back down on any of the big contentious issues. What sort of conversation can we have?
‘We don’t want foundation hospitals’
‘Shut up, I’m in charge now’
‘We don’t want variable top-up fees’
‘Shut up’
‘We want a referendum on the EU constitution’
‘Shut up, grab your ankles and smile for me’
Meanwhile terrorists kill civilians in Russia, Israel, Iraq, militaries kill civilians in Iraq, Palestine, and that’s just what makes recent headlines.
Which brings us back home, to terrorists trying to kill us. The country’s on what, the second highest possible state of alert, one man in custody, Richard Reed’s old buddy, with explosives of his own found at home.
But the screwing works both ways, as our government use powers which derogate from the European Convention on Human Rights to abuse those they allege of terrorism.
And did anyone hear that government representative on people mistakenly believing the 45 minutes was the time it’d take for Saddam to attack us, when actually it was 45 minutes for use on a battlefield? Apparently it’s our fault, they didn’t technically specify the 45 minute threat was to *us*, people just leapt all the way to that conclusion.
Belldandy’s used the same argument on these forums before. I didn’t realise he was a civil servant, but it kind of figures ;^)
I said then as I say now, they allow, and indeed encouraged people to make that assumption. It’s just as dishonest as lying outright.
Of course, if people weren’t so lame as to lose sight of Blair’s old acknowledgement that there was no direct threat from Iraq directly, the 45 minute thing would have been transparent. But people suck, and they were duped again.
So yeah, we’re a nation of mongs, but that doesn’t give a moral carte blanche to con men who rob us blind.
Georgia’s ‘bloodless revolution’ looked like a ray of hope – a corrupt government ousted without bloodshed, mankind’s finest hour for quite a few years.
Enter the US, Russia and BP’s oil line. Let the tug of war begin.
All I wanted was a decent job, some recreational basketball and to run some racks of pool for a county side, without terrorists trying to kill me or my government trying to abuse me, steal my rights away and reel out lies with wilful abandon.
And the really sad thing is, on a global scale, I’m lucky to have things so good.
Thanks for reading, if you did.
Foundation Hospitals. Legislation pushed through by a slim majority, pushed through by the votes of Scottish MPs who rejected the same legislation for their country, their constituencies. But they choose to force it upon the rest of the UK, using unconstitutional powers, for the sake of cheap partisan tactics. They’ve sold us up the river just to avoid losing face to the Tories.
Under Thatcher competition between NHS hospitals ultimately const lives, and there seems to be no reason why it’ll be different this time.
The MPs that voted against foundation hospitals agree with me, it will cost lives. So do those Scottish MPs who prevented the measures being adopted in Scotland, then forced it on the rest of the UK. So do the other MPs who fell into line to stop Labour losing face, whatever the cost. The latter two groups have blood on their hands.
Against the consensus of the people of Britain, Blair has forced foundation hospitals upon us. Just like he wants to force variable top-up fees on us. Just like he’s forced constitutional changes on us. Just like he plans to force his decision on the EU constitution on us, no referendum for his subjects.
Of course, technically he has the power. In the same way those Scottish MPs technically had the power to push foundation hospitals legislation through.
But we supposedly live in a democracy. That has to be more than the chance (for those who bother) to pick a new master every 5 years. Those powers have to be exercised to benefit and serve the people. Otherwise we’re little more than a string of short-term dictatorships.
He knows how much he can get away with, and he’s going to take every inch.
‘The big conversation’? We’ve already been told Blair won’t back down on any of the big contentious issues. What sort of conversation can we have?
‘We don’t want foundation hospitals’
‘Shut up, I’m in charge now’
‘We don’t want variable top-up fees’
‘Shut up’
‘We want a referendum on the EU constitution’
‘Shut up, grab your ankles and smile for me’
Meanwhile terrorists kill civilians in Russia, Israel, Iraq, militaries kill civilians in Iraq, Palestine, and that’s just what makes recent headlines.
Which brings us back home, to terrorists trying to kill us. The country’s on what, the second highest possible state of alert, one man in custody, Richard Reed’s old buddy, with explosives of his own found at home.
But the screwing works both ways, as our government use powers which derogate from the European Convention on Human Rights to abuse those they allege of terrorism.
And did anyone hear that government representative on people mistakenly believing the 45 minutes was the time it’d take for Saddam to attack us, when actually it was 45 minutes for use on a battlefield? Apparently it’s our fault, they didn’t technically specify the 45 minute threat was to *us*, people just leapt all the way to that conclusion.
Belldandy’s used the same argument on these forums before. I didn’t realise he was a civil servant, but it kind of figures ;^)
I said then as I say now, they allow, and indeed encouraged people to make that assumption. It’s just as dishonest as lying outright.
Of course, if people weren’t so lame as to lose sight of Blair’s old acknowledgement that there was no direct threat from Iraq directly, the 45 minute thing would have been transparent. But people suck, and they were duped again.
So yeah, we’re a nation of mongs, but that doesn’t give a moral carte blanche to con men who rob us blind.
Georgia’s ‘bloodless revolution’ looked like a ray of hope – a corrupt government ousted without bloodshed, mankind’s finest hour for quite a few years.
Enter the US, Russia and BP’s oil line. Let the tug of war begin.
All I wanted was a decent job, some recreational basketball and to run some racks of pool for a county side, without terrorists trying to kill me or my government trying to abuse me, steal my rights away and reel out lies with wilful abandon.
And the really sad thing is, on a global scale, I’m lucky to have things so good.
Thanks for reading, if you did.