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How many of us (mostly males) wish/wanted to be a superhero while growing up(maybe some still want to be in adulthood as well)? The thought of having special powers and saving the day is just amazing. Comic books were the main source from where these superheros were emerging, then they later became cartoons and then (if they were popular enough) made it to the big screen. However the films never seemed to live up to fans expectations (how could they?). Then X-men is released, another big budget comic book film...but wait, this one seems to have something others lack. It seems to mix special effects, a storyline and pretty good acting altogether. The film made millions in the first week of it's release and other film makers are thinking about making "comic book films" as well. For example the Spiderman film is going/getting done on the big screen as well(new cast, new-ish storyline, better special effects and bigger budget than the last Spiderman films). Reply to this if and say what superhero you would want to be and why?or You favourite comic book made into a film? Other comic book films which were good, but lacked the special effects, are - Superman,Spiderman,Incredible Hulk,Captain America..to name but a few...others (with special effects) Blade, Spawn...was there anymore?
How many of us (mostly males) wish/wanted to be a superhero while growing up(maybe some still want to be in adulthood as well)? The thought of having special powers and saving the day is just amazing. Comic books were the main source from where these superheros were emerging, then they later became cartoons and then (if they were popular enough) made it to the big screen. However the films never seemed to live up to fans expectations (how could they?). Then X-men is released, another big budget comic book film...but wait, this one seems to have something others lack. It seems to mix special effects, a storyline and pretty good acting altogether. The film made millions in the first week of it's release and other film makers are thinking about making "comic book films" as well. For example the Spiderman film is going/getting done on the big screen as well(new cast, new-ish storyline, better special effects and bigger budget than the last Spiderman films). Reply to this if and say what superhero you would want to be and why?or You favourite comic book made into a film? Other comic book films which were good, but lacked the special effects, are - Superman,Spiderman,Incredible Hulk,Captain America..to name but a few...others (with special effects) Blade, Spawn...was there anymore?
Ok, I'll have to disagree there. Superman the Motion Picture not only lived up to everyone's expectations when it was released, it surpassed them.
Superman the movie contains special effects that don't really stand up today to anyone who has no imagination whatsoever, but most comic book readers don't have this problem anyway. In fact, when the new Superman series was first aired, people complained because they were so used to Christopher Reeve being Superman.
Having read DC/Marvel and independant comics since about 7 or 8 years old, there have been many good films and yes, many dissapointments from any film based on a comic book.
To me Spawn wasn't as bad as other people thought it was. It's one of those films that you either love or hate, although it was a great DVD package. Since McFarlaine had a big hand in the film it was actually pretty near to the characteristics of the comic, bar the complicated storyline. This was bettered by the wonderful animated series that's now available on DVD as well.
The Batman 1989 movie was a triumph, and re-started all the superhero movies being made again. Again, I have this on DVD and it really is a great film to watch again. Many inconsistancies with the comics mind you, like Batman using guns and actually killing people. Oh, and the small matter of The Joker actually 'creating' Batman! huh!
Turtles was my most disapointing film. A fantastically dark comic with lots of beheadings and 'proper' oriental ideals becomes a silly american trash film to cash in on the characters popularity. Eastman and Laird never should have let the characters become a children's show, it was so much better as a cult comic. It nearly got things right at one stage in the film with the sentiment side of things, but it was never going to be as dark as the comic.
The Hulk was pretty good for it's time. Storylines were a bit more thoughtful than the comics, with a few extra characters thrown in. At least it was better than the cartoons, where the Hulk apparently could fly!!! (the same mistake was made in the Transformers cartoons as well)
The Punisher was pretty dire, as was Captain America. In fact, until Blade came out, and excluding the Hulk series, Marvel films were never that good. It's a shame as they have excellent characters and the Marvel based cartoons are getting better all the time. This has changed now and hopefully reflects on the new Hulk and Spiderman films that are in production. The new Spidey costume looks wonderful.
As for what hero I'd like to be. I don't know, I'd be a new one. Like a lot of people, I always wanted to be Superman when I was a kid (and yes, I even had the outfit!)
Superman the movie contains special effects that don't really stand up today to anyone who has no imagination whatsoever, but most comic book readers don't have this problem anyway. In fact, when the new Superman series was first aired, people complained because they were so used to Christopher Reeve being Superman.
Having read DC/Marvel and independant comics since about 7 or 8 years old, there have been many good films and yes, many dissapointments from any film based on a comic book.
To me Spawn wasn't as bad as other people thought it was. It's one of those films that you either love or hate, although it was a great DVD package. Since McFarlaine had a big hand in the film it was actually pretty near to the characteristics of the comic, bar the complicated storyline. This was bettered by the wonderful animated series that's now available on DVD as well.
The Batman 1989 movie was a triumph, and re-started all the superhero movies being made again. Again, I have this on DVD and it really is a great film to watch again. Many inconsistancies with the comics mind you, like Batman using guns and actually killing people. Oh, and the small matter of The Joker actually 'creating' Batman! huh!
Turtles was my most disapointing film. A fantastically dark comic with lots of beheadings and 'proper' oriental ideals becomes a silly american trash film to cash in on the characters popularity. Eastman and Laird never should have let the characters become a children's show, it was so much better as a cult comic. It nearly got things right at one stage in the film with the sentiment side of things, but it was never going to be as dark as the comic.
The Hulk was pretty good for it's time. Storylines were a bit more thoughtful than the comics, with a few extra characters thrown in. At least it was better than the cartoons, where the Hulk apparently could fly!!! (the same mistake was made in the Transformers cartoons as well)
The Punisher was pretty dire, as was Captain America. In fact, until Blade came out, and excluding the Hulk series, Marvel films were never that good. It's a shame as they have excellent characters and the Marvel based cartoons are getting better all the time. This has changed now and hopefully reflects on the new Hulk and Spiderman films that are in production. The new Spidey costume looks wonderful.
As for what hero I'd like to be. I don't know, I'd be a new one. Like a lot of people, I always wanted to be Superman when I was a kid (and yes, I even had the outfit!)
pb wrote:
> Ok, I'll have to disagree there. Superman the Motion Picture not
> only lived up to everyone's expectations when it was released, it
> surpassed them.
Never did like the Christopher Reeve Superman movies... It had the feel more of the 60's comic boks than the originals... everything seemed a little too weak and straight?
Superman the movie contains special effects that
> don't really stand up today to anyone who has no imagination
> whatsoever, but most comic book readers don't have this problem
> anyway. In fact, when the new Superman series was first aired,
> people complained because they were so used to Christopher Reeve
> being Superman.
Arnt you contradicting yourself here? ... Comic Book fans have great imagination, as long as Christopher Reeve is Superman?
(Used to love the original special effects... 21st Century is really the start of film identification as Pre or Post computer generated effects.
Having read DC/Marvel and independant comics
> since about 7 or 8 years old, there have been many good films and
> yes, many dissapointments from any film based on a comic book.
>
Although the dissapointments do rather heavily outway the good movies?
To me Spawn wasn't as bad as other people thought it was. It's
> one of those films that you either love or hate, although it was a
> great DVD package. Since McFarlaine had a big hand in the film it
> was actually pretty near to the characteristics of the comic, bar
> the complicated storyline. This was bettered by the wonderful
> animated series that's now available on DVD as well.
Problem with Spawn, for me ... as with much of McFarlanes early work (I havnt seen much of his later work) is that is more concept that story... I loved his Spiderman comic, although, I remember at the time the same critisims were made?
The Batman
> 1989 movie was a triumph, and re-started all the superhero movies
> being made again. Again, I have this on DVD and it really is a
> great film to watch again. Many inconsistancies with the comics
> mind you, like Batman using guns and actually killing people. Oh,
> and the small matter of The Joker actually 'creating' Batman!
> huh!
All part of the move back to the 'original' batman though huh? ... Although the Joker creating Batman was interesting :)
Turtles was my most disapointing film. A fantastically dark
> comic with lots of beheadings and 'proper' oriental ideals becomes a
> silly american trash film to cash in on the characters popularity.
> Eastman and Laird never should have let the characters become a
> children's show,
True... the cartoon/cash in did royally spell the end of the Turtles
The
> Hulk was pretty good for it's time. Storylines were a bit more
> thoughtful than the comics, with a few extra characters thrown in.
> At least it was better than the cartoons, where the Hulk apparently
> could fly!!! (the same mistake was made in the Transformers cartoons
> as well)
Still wasnt the 'real' Hulk/Marvel universe though huh? That was always the big letdown about the series for myself...
The Punisher was pretty dire, as was Captain America.
> In fact, until Blade came out, and excluding the Hulk series, Marvel
> films were never that good. It's a shame as they have excellent
> characters and the Marvel based cartoons are getting better all the
> time. This has changed now and hopefully reflects on the new Hulk
> and Spiderman films that are in production. The new Spidey costume
> looks wonderful.
I'm possibly the only person in the world who didnt really get on with the Blade movies... it didnt seem to add anything new to the genre... just rehashed ideas from other superhero movies... the vampire hunter thing had in both Compic Books and Film been done to death... and the half vampire aspect was positively childish
As for what hero I'd like to be. I don't know,
> I'd be a new one. Like a lot of people, I always wanted to be
> Superman when I was a kid (and yes, I even had the outfit!)
Speaking of which... theres a new superhero (PC) computer game in the works.... which apparently is hotting up to be a bit good :)
> Ok, I'll have to disagree there. Superman the Motion Picture not
> only lived up to everyone's expectations when it was released, it
> surpassed them.
Never did like the Christopher Reeve Superman movies... It had the feel more of the 60's comic boks than the originals... everything seemed a little too weak and straight?
Superman the movie contains special effects that
> don't really stand up today to anyone who has no imagination
> whatsoever, but most comic book readers don't have this problem
> anyway. In fact, when the new Superman series was first aired,
> people complained because they were so used to Christopher Reeve
> being Superman.
Arnt you contradicting yourself here? ... Comic Book fans have great imagination, as long as Christopher Reeve is Superman?
(Used to love the original special effects... 21st Century is really the start of film identification as Pre or Post computer generated effects.
Having read DC/Marvel and independant comics
> since about 7 or 8 years old, there have been many good films and
> yes, many dissapointments from any film based on a comic book.
>
Although the dissapointments do rather heavily outway the good movies?
To me Spawn wasn't as bad as other people thought it was. It's
> one of those films that you either love or hate, although it was a
> great DVD package. Since McFarlaine had a big hand in the film it
> was actually pretty near to the characteristics of the comic, bar
> the complicated storyline. This was bettered by the wonderful
> animated series that's now available on DVD as well.
Problem with Spawn, for me ... as with much of McFarlanes early work (I havnt seen much of his later work) is that is more concept that story... I loved his Spiderman comic, although, I remember at the time the same critisims were made?
The Batman
> 1989 movie was a triumph, and re-started all the superhero movies
> being made again. Again, I have this on DVD and it really is a
> great film to watch again. Many inconsistancies with the comics
> mind you, like Batman using guns and actually killing people. Oh,
> and the small matter of The Joker actually 'creating' Batman!
> huh!
All part of the move back to the 'original' batman though huh? ... Although the Joker creating Batman was interesting :)
Turtles was my most disapointing film. A fantastically dark
> comic with lots of beheadings and 'proper' oriental ideals becomes a
> silly american trash film to cash in on the characters popularity.
> Eastman and Laird never should have let the characters become a
> children's show,
True... the cartoon/cash in did royally spell the end of the Turtles
The
> Hulk was pretty good for it's time. Storylines were a bit more
> thoughtful than the comics, with a few extra characters thrown in.
> At least it was better than the cartoons, where the Hulk apparently
> could fly!!! (the same mistake was made in the Transformers cartoons
> as well)
Still wasnt the 'real' Hulk/Marvel universe though huh? That was always the big letdown about the series for myself...
The Punisher was pretty dire, as was Captain America.
> In fact, until Blade came out, and excluding the Hulk series, Marvel
> films were never that good. It's a shame as they have excellent
> characters and the Marvel based cartoons are getting better all the
> time. This has changed now and hopefully reflects on the new Hulk
> and Spiderman films that are in production. The new Spidey costume
> looks wonderful.
I'm possibly the only person in the world who didnt really get on with the Blade movies... it didnt seem to add anything new to the genre... just rehashed ideas from other superhero movies... the vampire hunter thing had in both Compic Books and Film been done to death... and the half vampire aspect was positively childish
As for what hero I'd like to be. I don't know,
> I'd be a new one. Like a lot of people, I always wanted to be
> Superman when I was a kid (and yes, I even had the outfit!)
Speaking of which... theres a new superhero (PC) computer game in the works.... which apparently is hotting up to be a bit good :)
Armatige Shanks wrote:
> pb wrote:
> Ok, I'll have to disagree there. Superman the
> Motion Picture not
> only lived up to everyone's expectations
> when it was released, it
> surpassed them.
>Never did like the
> Christopher Reeve Superman movies... It had the feel more of the
> 60's comic boks than the originals... everything seemed a little too
> weak and straight?
- Depends which version of the comics you read, I suppose. But, yes, I'd agree that they were probably a bit 'straight', but that's what Superman originally stood for if you go back to his roots.
>Superman the movie contains special effects
> that
> don't really stand up today to anyone who has no
> imagination
> whatsoever, but most comic book readers don't have
> this problem
> anyway. In fact, when the new Superman series
> was first aired,
> people complained because they were so used
> to Christopher Reeve
> being Superman.
>Arnt you contradicting
> yourself here? ... Comic Book fans have great imagination, as long
> as Christopher Reeve is Superman?
Sorry, I meant that the general audience thought this.
>(Used to love the original
> special effects... 21st Century is really the start of film
> identification as Pre or Post computer generated effects.
>Having
> read DC/Marvel and independant comics
> since about 7 or 8 years
> old, there have been many good films and
> yes, many
> dissapointments from any film based on a comic book.
>
>
Although the dissapointments do rather heavily outway the good
> movies?
Unfortunately, yes.
>To me Spawn wasn't as bad as other people thought it was.
> It's
> one of those films that you either love or hate,
> although it was a
> great DVD package. Since McFarlaine had a
> big hand in the film it
> was actually pretty near to the
> characteristics of the comic, bar
> the complicated storyline.
> This was bettered by the wonderful
> animated series that's now
> available on DVD as well.
Problem with Spawn, for me ... as with
> much of McFarlanes early work (I havnt seen much of his later work)
> is that is more concept that story... I loved his Spiderman comic,
> although, I remember at the time the same critisims were
> made?
At least it was something fresh at the time though.
>The Batman
> 1989 movie was a triumph, and re-started
> all the superhero movies
> being made again. Again, I have this
> on DVD and it really is a
> great film to watch again. Many
> inconsistancies with the comics
> mind you, like Batman using
> guns and actually killing people. Oh,
> and the small matter of
> The Joker actually 'creating' Batman!
> huh!
All part of the
> move back to the 'original' batman though huh? ... Although the
> Joker creating Batman was interesting :)
Agreed, at least the feeling was right this time. Though I've always been a fan of the hand drawn 70's Batman stories with the fantastic artwork and deep storylines.
>Turtles was my most
> disapointing film. A fantastically dark
> comic with lots of
> beheadings and 'proper' oriental ideals becomes a
> silly
> american trash film to cash in on the characters popularity.
>
> Eastman and Laird never should have let the characters become
> a
> children's show,
>
>True... the cartoon/cash in did royally
> spell the end of the Turtles
>
>The
> Hulk was pretty good for
> it's time. Storylines were a bit more
> thoughtful than the
> comics, with a few extra characters thrown in.
> At least it
> was better than the cartoons, where the Hulk apparently
> could
> fly!!! (the same mistake was made in the Transformers >cartoons
>
> as well)
>Still wasnt the 'real' Hulk/Marvel universe though huh?
> That was always the big letdown about the series for
> myself...
Yeah, I know what you mean. Maybe the new movie will change this? Cameos would be nice to see as well.
>The Punisher was pretty dire, as was Captain America.
>
> In fact, until Blade came out, and excluding the Hulk series,
> Marvel
> films were never that good. It's a shame as they have
> excellent
> characters and the Marvel based cartoons are getting
> better all the
> time. This has changed now and hopefully
> reflects on the new Hulk
> and Spiderman films that are in
> production. The new Spidey costume
> looks wonderful.
>
>I'm
> possibly the only person in the world who didnt really get on with
> the Blade movies... it didnt seem to add anything new to >the genre... just rehashed ideas from other superhero >movies... the
> vampire hunter thing had in both Compic Books and Film >been done to
> death... and the half vampire aspect was positively >childish
>
>As for what hero I'd like to be. I don't know,
> I'd be a new one.
> Like a lot of people, I always wanted to be
> Superman when I
> was a kid (and yes, I even had the outfit!)
>
>Speaking of which...
> theres a new superhero (PC) computer game in the works.... which
> apparently is hotting up to be a bit good :)
Sounds interesting, I'll have to look that up.
> pb wrote:
> Ok, I'll have to disagree there. Superman the
> Motion Picture not
> only lived up to everyone's expectations
> when it was released, it
> surpassed them.
>Never did like the
> Christopher Reeve Superman movies... It had the feel more of the
> 60's comic boks than the originals... everything seemed a little too
> weak and straight?
- Depends which version of the comics you read, I suppose. But, yes, I'd agree that they were probably a bit 'straight', but that's what Superman originally stood for if you go back to his roots.
>Superman the movie contains special effects
> that
> don't really stand up today to anyone who has no
> imagination
> whatsoever, but most comic book readers don't have
> this problem
> anyway. In fact, when the new Superman series
> was first aired,
> people complained because they were so used
> to Christopher Reeve
> being Superman.
>Arnt you contradicting
> yourself here? ... Comic Book fans have great imagination, as long
> as Christopher Reeve is Superman?
Sorry, I meant that the general audience thought this.
>(Used to love the original
> special effects... 21st Century is really the start of film
> identification as Pre or Post computer generated effects.
>Having
> read DC/Marvel and independant comics
> since about 7 or 8 years
> old, there have been many good films and
> yes, many
> dissapointments from any film based on a comic book.
>
>
Although the dissapointments do rather heavily outway the good
> movies?
Unfortunately, yes.
>To me Spawn wasn't as bad as other people thought it was.
> It's
> one of those films that you either love or hate,
> although it was a
> great DVD package. Since McFarlaine had a
> big hand in the film it
> was actually pretty near to the
> characteristics of the comic, bar
> the complicated storyline.
> This was bettered by the wonderful
> animated series that's now
> available on DVD as well.
Problem with Spawn, for me ... as with
> much of McFarlanes early work (I havnt seen much of his later work)
> is that is more concept that story... I loved his Spiderman comic,
> although, I remember at the time the same critisims were
> made?
At least it was something fresh at the time though.
>The Batman
> 1989 movie was a triumph, and re-started
> all the superhero movies
> being made again. Again, I have this
> on DVD and it really is a
> great film to watch again. Many
> inconsistancies with the comics
> mind you, like Batman using
> guns and actually killing people. Oh,
> and the small matter of
> The Joker actually 'creating' Batman!
> huh!
All part of the
> move back to the 'original' batman though huh? ... Although the
> Joker creating Batman was interesting :)
Agreed, at least the feeling was right this time. Though I've always been a fan of the hand drawn 70's Batman stories with the fantastic artwork and deep storylines.
>Turtles was my most
> disapointing film. A fantastically dark
> comic with lots of
> beheadings and 'proper' oriental ideals becomes a
> silly
> american trash film to cash in on the characters popularity.
>
> Eastman and Laird never should have let the characters become
> a
> children's show,
>
>True... the cartoon/cash in did royally
> spell the end of the Turtles
>
>The
> Hulk was pretty good for
> it's time. Storylines were a bit more
> thoughtful than the
> comics, with a few extra characters thrown in.
> At least it
> was better than the cartoons, where the Hulk apparently
> could
> fly!!! (the same mistake was made in the Transformers >cartoons
>
> as well)
>Still wasnt the 'real' Hulk/Marvel universe though huh?
> That was always the big letdown about the series for
> myself...
Yeah, I know what you mean. Maybe the new movie will change this? Cameos would be nice to see as well.
>The Punisher was pretty dire, as was Captain America.
>
> In fact, until Blade came out, and excluding the Hulk series,
> Marvel
> films were never that good. It's a shame as they have
> excellent
> characters and the Marvel based cartoons are getting
> better all the
> time. This has changed now and hopefully
> reflects on the new Hulk
> and Spiderman films that are in
> production. The new Spidey costume
> looks wonderful.
>
>I'm
> possibly the only person in the world who didnt really get on with
> the Blade movies... it didnt seem to add anything new to >the genre... just rehashed ideas from other superhero >movies... the
> vampire hunter thing had in both Compic Books and Film >been done to
> death... and the half vampire aspect was positively >childish
>
>As for what hero I'd like to be. I don't know,
> I'd be a new one.
> Like a lot of people, I always wanted to be
> Superman when I
> was a kid (and yes, I even had the outfit!)
>
>Speaking of which...
> theres a new superhero (PC) computer game in the works.... which
> apparently is hotting up to be a bit good :)
Sounds interesting, I'll have to look that up.
pb wrote:
>> Armatige Wrote :
>>Speaking of
>> which...
>> theres a new superhero (PC) computer game in the
>> works.... which
>> apparently is hotting up to be a bit good
>> :)
>Sounds interesting, I'll have to look that up.
Theres an article about it at the PCZone site I think?
>> Armatige Wrote :
>>Speaking of
>> which...
>> theres a new superhero (PC) computer game in the
>> works.... which
>> apparently is hotting up to be a bit good
>> :)
>Sounds interesting, I'll have to look that up.
Theres an article about it at the PCZone site I think?