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Sun 09/11/03 at 20:33
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Every movie is a perfect movie, it is the imperfections within each and every human that determine its greatness.




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Tue 11/11/03 at 14:14
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A director might have a perfect vision of his movie but he has to rely on lots of other people to put it into practice. It's not perfect if his actors aren't up to the job, for example. The only way somebody could do a movie exactly how they wanted it is if they did everything themselves.

Besides, have you ever watched a Channel 5 TV movie? Those directors don't give a stuff, they're just doing it to get paid.
Mon 10/11/03 at 20:45
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in regards to the original post - I can see what you're getting at, some films that all my friends, family, and the general public hate, I think are excellent.

but I absolutely refuse to believe that in any way at all, Spiceworld is great.
Sun 09/11/03 at 22:08
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I guess what I'm trying to say is...no human is perfect and therefore we can never truly achieve perfection, we may be able to envision it but there will always be constraints whether they are budget etc for a film or whether they are the imperfections in ourselves. However without if we are all imperfect but can envision perfection with our imperfect minds then our visions of perfection must therfore be inperfect and it is those imperfections that make something great or not because although one imperfect being may believe it is perfect they have obviously made something imperfect and those imperfections will be seen by another imperfect human who'll think of his perfect way of doing it which would also be imperfect and so on and so forth. God it's hard to explain.
Sun 09/11/03 at 21:39
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Are you trying to say that in the director's eyes they HAVE achieved perfection, even if they haven't really? In their mind it's perfect? If so that's a lie because after the production of most films you'll find comments from the crew such as "well we wanted to...but ran out of time/budget/we couldn't get the effects to work to our satisfaction" etc.
Sun 09/11/03 at 21:35
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Obviously that's not what I mean thoug memorandum. As I have said I am finding it hard to articulate and you're not making it any easier.
Sun 09/11/03 at 21:25
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Cubist wrote:
> Well the way I look at it all film makers make the movies exactly as
> they want it to be made.

Here you say they make the film EXACTLY as they envision it. In other words, they make it to absolute perfection, exactly as it is in their head. Okay?

> Ok they may have budget constraints and so
> on

There are constraints, this means they can't make it to perfection - special effects can't be as good as the director imagined or something etc. This contradicts the original statement that they make it exactly as it is in their head.

> but in the end they do it to perfection.

Now you're contradicting yourself again, you're saying it's made to perfection (like in point 1) but above you've admitted that isn't possible due to various constraints...so in the end it ISN'T made to perfection.

Contradiction.



And now you're blabbering on about how perfection is impossible, which isn't defending your point....it's actually making its falseness and contradictory elements even more clear...
Sun 09/11/03 at 21:19
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It's not really a contradiction because we will always be constricted in some form or another but we can still try and make things as perfect as we envision it and want it to be. I'm sure the makers of ALIEN thought it was Perfect at the time but as humans are so imperfect there is no perfect way to make a film but the makers believe they are perfect because they envision it that way. But they're not because we are all imperfect...Is any of this making sense? It is so hard to actually put into words but when I think about it it actually makes sense.
Sun 09/11/03 at 21:15
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Cubist wrote:
> Well the way I look at it all film makers make the movies exactly as
> they want it to be made. Ok they may have budget constraints and so
> on but in the end they do it to perfection.

That's a contradiction.
Sun 09/11/03 at 20:52
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Well the way I look at it all film makers make the movies exactly as they want it to be made. Ok they may have budget constraints and so on but in the end they do it to perfection. However as no human is perfect it is impossible to achieve perfection in anything we do including film making however we do still try to achieve it but as none of us are perfect we can only pick up on other imperfections and the less we can pick up on the more perfect it seems. So although a film may seem perfect to the people who make it as no human is perfect not only can it not be perfect but it is the imperfections within every human that determine it's future greatness.


Ok that makes no sense what so over. Well it does in my head but I'm quite inarticulate...hmph.
Sun 09/11/03 at 20:43
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I would say: Disagree.

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