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Wed 10/09/03 at 15:16
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I came to the conclusion this lunchtime that I am apathetic. (Please do not bother with the puns or splitting the last word).

I never sit down on an evening to catch up on the news, I don't read a newspaper and I don't browse the Internet for the latest news but obviously I hear / see bits and pieces here and there. It is true that a little knowledge without facts is dangerous as all my opinions on anything in general, or important, are based on these bits of info and that just makes me woefully uninformed.

This lunchtime I caught the end of a radio show where two Muslim leaders were speaking. The essence of which seemed to be that one leader was slating the September 11th act and the other was condoning it, or rather elevating the people who carried out the hi-jackings. Then it dawned on me that I just didn't care.

I have no strong views on politics or war, farming subsidies, animal / human rights or the environment. The state of the health service, police service or our country as a whole. Oh, I can have an opinion on the bits that I hear or even on the discussions that are undertaken on here but as a general rule I just am not bothered by anything.

I cannot understand fanatics so dismiss them easily but I applaud people who do their ‘bit’ to help and fight for people, the environment, animals etc., unrecognised and unacknowledged, purely because they want to help in whichever small way they can. I am not one of these people, not because I am ignorant of atrocities which we inflict, but because I don't care enough to do something about it myself.

I was thinking that if I was approached by someone who asked me to give up just 4 hours of my time per week to help a cause that I would probably find the time and do it. As it stands through I am not motivated enough to volunteer for anything. My excuse – I don't have the time.

The saddest thing about it is that although I recognise these facts I do not want to change, I am happy in my apathy. I consider that if I am lucky I have already lived 2/3rds of my life, if I am unlucky I have only lived ½ my life. I don't want to hear at this point any comments about the sanctity of life, this is my own personal view. When I was 14 years old I didn't want children and I never changed my mind, I couldn't see any future for them, I still can't. It's a good job not everyone thinks like me and yet, in a way, it is a shame more people do not think like this.

Why would I be happy to learn that I may only have a third of my life left to live? Take a look around you, take a look at yourself and the people you know. How many of you actively strive to make a difference? Take a look at the state of the world in general. It's depressing if you look too closely at the things that you do not do. Most of us are quite content to live in our own little bubbles, happy to raise our voices while still sat on our expanding butts, I know I am.

I am unsure as to why I have written this, why I am going to post it (even though seeing as I've written it down I know I will) or what responses, if any, I expect to generate. I have not fully been able to write down how exactly I am feeling at the moment. Mostly because my boss keeps walking in and disrupting the flow of my thoughts. A sense of hopelessness for the human race? Perhaps. Can we seriously make a difference?
Thu 11/09/03 at 16:17
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"bing bang bong"
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I couldn't be bothered to read all of that









(although I am in a hurry)
Thu 11/09/03 at 08:46
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"Taste My Pain"
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Apathy may not initiate harm, but through lack of action, it allows harm to happen or continue. There is nothing noble about it.
Wed 10/09/03 at 22:57
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*Understands*


Apathy leaves you with clean hands? I don't know. Just for one example: It's easy to buy from manufacturers that exploit their workers, easier than going out of your way for 'fair trade' products.

Us apathists.. we're pointed in one direction, and like a truck without a driver (or a driver who can't be ashed to reach for the steering wheel) we follow the course we happen upon.
Maybe we do some damage on our path, inflict some harm. Are we responsible for that? Or can we really pass the buck to the society that pointed us this way and set us in motion?

Or do we not care either way? :^)
Wed 10/09/03 at 21:39
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When you think about it, perhaps apathy is The Answer. By never getting involved, by never taking sides, maybe the apathetic person is living by an unwritten code of the highest wisdom - setting an example to others with their 'beyond good and evil' non-action.

The truly apathetic person opposes no one, is incapable of generating ill-doing, can wash his/her hands of any responsibility whatsoever - not because they have their heads in the sand, but because they ARE NOT responsible for the creation of any problem.

Absolute apathy is the key to earthly utopia.

And thus a new irReligion is born with I as High Purple Wazzock of Blissful Indifference. Pray and wish for nothing.

Thus spoke Black Glove.

:-|
Wed 10/09/03 at 19:25
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Apathy's great in principle, but to be honest I can't really be bothered with it.
Wed 10/09/03 at 19:14
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"Apathy is the highest virtue, for he who is indifferent to all things is incapable of initiating harm." - [chapter 13 from The Book of Withers the Wastrel]
Wed 10/09/03 at 16:26
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Take a look around you, take a look at yourself and
> the people you know. How many of you actively strive to make a
> difference?

Not everybody is like you. Although a big difference cant be made by one person, if everybody did a bit it would mount to much more. I have worked with animals for a while now, paid and unpaid. I was a volunteer at a rescue centre near me when I was at school, I started helping before it had opened, helping to build the housing for injured animals. I nursed a young owl all night, after its mother had been killed by a car. I made a home for a lost hedgehog in our garage after someone had destroyed its nest one winter. Whilst working at the vets I actively promoted the work of sancturies and persueded many people who wanted pets to take on an abandoned animal from one of these establishments as opposed to buying a pedigree from a breeder as there are too many abandoned/abused animals without homes. I theres a stray dog in the street, you'll probally find me running after it to capture it and take it to the dogs home to safety. We have a rescued dog ourselves. I have liased with the RSPCA to catch an abuser, and now thanks to my effort, that person is legally not allowed to keep animals again. I have also nursed animals that have been abused and helped to ease their pain. We always recycle and i'm thinking of joining a volunteer conservation group abroad to try to restore habitats. I feel guilty when I think of all that mankind has done to harm animals, the environment and other people so I think i'll always try to do my bit even if its just a small bit. It may not be much but if we all do a little, it could amount to great things.
Wed 10/09/03 at 15:39
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
You don't care, and why should you? We're constantly bombarded with information about events that have no effect on our lives, eventually, you're going to realise it just doesn't matter.

That's not to say nothing matters. No, no, no. There is something that will provoke a reaction in you. Something that will make you want to stand up and make your voice heard.

You just have to find out what that is.
Wed 10/09/03 at 15:34
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"Brownium Motion"
Posts: 4,100
Yeah, i feel the same these days. A general listlessness in spirit and I just don't care any more. I go through my motions in life like an automaton, without emotion or feeling.

I think I remember writing about this before - I just feel mentally crushed. It's as if nothing has the capacity to get me emotional any more:


When I was young I had honourable intentions as well. I wanted to be a
crusader in the loosest sense of the word. I qualified in law and then realised
that I wasn't cut out for the rat race. Spiralling debt, lacklustre employment
opportunities and a general dismay at the world left me feeling disheartened at
life.

A few years on I'm still here working away, becoming someone I never thought
I'd be. Becoming a person that I used to loathe. Working endlessly day in and
day out for my pension scheme, 3 weeks holiday per year and paying my taxes
like a good citizen of society.

However, there's something missing. I feel it everyday when I get up, when I go
to work, when I sit at home and stare vacantly at the tv or try to muster up
some type of enthusiasm to play a videogame. I feel as if I'm moribund. A dying
breed slowly shimmering out of existence with nothing left to mark my passing.

It's hard making the first step. I want to give up the rat race, save some money
up and go travelling. I want to see more of the world and forget about the petty
little foibles that plague most working people. I don't want to worry about
whether I've made a mortgage payment or not - I want to worry about what
country I'll be jaunting off to next or where my next expedition will be or what
other magnificent sight I want to witness.

I feel almost impervious to normal day events, as if I'm viewing them from a
detached perpective, as if I'm on a different plane of existence. It worries me
sometimes.

But I will carry on forging through life, hoping that one day I'll have the balls to
give it all up and say, "to hell with it."

But not yet. Not by a long chalk.
Wed 10/09/03 at 15:16
Regular
"Going nowhere fast"
Posts: 6,574
I came to the conclusion this lunchtime that I am apathetic. (Please do not bother with the puns or splitting the last word).

I never sit down on an evening to catch up on the news, I don't read a newspaper and I don't browse the Internet for the latest news but obviously I hear / see bits and pieces here and there. It is true that a little knowledge without facts is dangerous as all my opinions on anything in general, or important, are based on these bits of info and that just makes me woefully uninformed.

This lunchtime I caught the end of a radio show where two Muslim leaders were speaking. The essence of which seemed to be that one leader was slating the September 11th act and the other was condoning it, or rather elevating the people who carried out the hi-jackings. Then it dawned on me that I just didn't care.

I have no strong views on politics or war, farming subsidies, animal / human rights or the environment. The state of the health service, police service or our country as a whole. Oh, I can have an opinion on the bits that I hear or even on the discussions that are undertaken on here but as a general rule I just am not bothered by anything.

I cannot understand fanatics so dismiss them easily but I applaud people who do their ‘bit’ to help and fight for people, the environment, animals etc., unrecognised and unacknowledged, purely because they want to help in whichever small way they can. I am not one of these people, not because I am ignorant of atrocities which we inflict, but because I don't care enough to do something about it myself.

I was thinking that if I was approached by someone who asked me to give up just 4 hours of my time per week to help a cause that I would probably find the time and do it. As it stands through I am not motivated enough to volunteer for anything. My excuse – I don't have the time.

The saddest thing about it is that although I recognise these facts I do not want to change, I am happy in my apathy. I consider that if I am lucky I have already lived 2/3rds of my life, if I am unlucky I have only lived ½ my life. I don't want to hear at this point any comments about the sanctity of life, this is my own personal view. When I was 14 years old I didn't want children and I never changed my mind, I couldn't see any future for them, I still can't. It's a good job not everyone thinks like me and yet, in a way, it is a shame more people do not think like this.

Why would I be happy to learn that I may only have a third of my life left to live? Take a look around you, take a look at yourself and the people you know. How many of you actively strive to make a difference? Take a look at the state of the world in general. It's depressing if you look too closely at the things that you do not do. Most of us are quite content to live in our own little bubbles, happy to raise our voices while still sat on our expanding butts, I know I am.

I am unsure as to why I have written this, why I am going to post it (even though seeing as I've written it down I know I will) or what responses, if any, I expect to generate. I have not fully been able to write down how exactly I am feeling at the moment. Mostly because my boss keeps walking in and disrupting the flow of my thoughts. A sense of hopelessness for the human race? Perhaps. Can we seriously make a difference?

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