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"The paranormal"

I've been pondering over the unexplained (I do this every now and then) and wondered if anyone had any particular views on anything where science can't find an answer. For example life after death, is there really a spirit world? Has anyone seen a ghost? I think i've seen one, I say "I think" because i've no evidence to suggeat that, apart from the fact that 2 of us saw it together. We both gave some descriptions of him after so I know she saw the same thing and was not lying. We saw him through the window of my aunts house in the living room, and naturally assumed she'd got a visitor. When we entered we found there to be no-ne there and my aunt confirmed this. The only other explaination is that she had a bloke there and got rid of him quickly out the back! This seems unlikely as she is not married and wouldn't be she if she'd met someone. The description does match her and my dads deceased father who died when they were young. It still puzzles me as i've also heard about people seeing glimpses into the past, like a photo, but not actual ghosts, so possibly that happened. My friend wont talk about it much, she seemed freaked out. I wonder what evidence I would actually need to believe for sure in this sort of thing. If its true why is there no evidence? Also psychics are a bit strange. Has anyone ever been to one, do they just talk a load of bull... ? It leads me to think that maybe we are all a bit psychic...I often know whos calling when the phone rings...and how do animals know their way back home when owners have moved house miles away? Maybe all creatures have some ability but we've lost touch with ours because of civilization and in our busy lifestyles we don't need it, but maybe animals have still kept their abilities..and some of us maybe? The list could go on..what about aliens?!!! I don't think we could actually be the only living creatures in the universe but I can't quite believe that people think they've seen one/been abducted. Anyway all this rambling..what are your views? :-)

Dr Duck wrote:
> I'd like to believe in an afterlife. I think I would anyway.
> Takes the edge off death.
> Though forever seems like a hell of a long time to hang around.

if there was indeed an afterlife, it would be a blink between our lives and the afterlife, because while you're dead you're not conscious of anything, so it's like being asleep - you're there for a long time but you switch off, so it seems like you've just blinked.
in a way, you resemble being asleep to a screensaver on a PC. when something happens, like a loud noise, or in this case a mouse or key being activated, you "wake up".

And another thing, we wouldn't fear death if we had no emotional connections with anyone else, because we care too much about the people we love. it's the thought of putting your loved one's through the emotional strife and greivance, which could indeed push them to follow the same path as death. if you had no friends, no contacts, and no job, suicide is a very viable option. But as i say, it's emotions that keep us alive, but they can also kill us.

right now i'm listening to muse / showbiz and it's kinda saying this.

i.e: "pushing us into self destruction" or "trying to please you for too long"

I still think though that paranormal things exist, for instance powerful forces such as poltergeists.

my explanation is that we only see ghosts when we have a bit of adrenaline in our bodies, as if we are anticipating it. why do you think the people on most haunted are easily freaked out? because they expect to see something, and they are also toasted to the eyeballs on their own adrenaline. it's also dark and quiet - the perfect spooky setting.

There definately wasn't a tresspasser as sunt was in same room but I know what you mean, it could of been a new man she'd met and wanted to keep a secret, but if it was she got rid of him bloody quickly! The other strange thing is she sais she saw us out the window when we got dropped off and got out of car (we normally got bus)so why didn't she get rid of him then? I am still sceptical a bit and I don't know what would convince me...a video recording i guess!

My first reaction to the ghost thing was to retionalise it, that it was probably just someone on the property who didn't want to be seen - trespasser, drifter, lost bloke...
Of course, I don't know enough to be able to judge whether that's realistic.

I'd like to believe in an afterlife. I think I would anyway.
Takes the edge off death.
Though forever seems like a hell of a long time to hang around.

But do I?
Without my own experience I'll probably just try to rationalise, without knowing anything either way.

I've been pondering over the unexplained (I do this every now and then) and wondered if anyone had any particular views on anything where science can't find an answer. For example life after death, is there really a spirit world? Has anyone seen a ghost? I think i've seen one, I say "I think" because i've no evidence to suggeat that, apart from the fact that 2 of us saw it together. We both gave some descriptions of him after so I know she saw the same thing and was not lying. We saw him through the window of my aunts house in the living room, and naturally assumed she'd got a visitor. When we entered we found there to be no-ne there and my aunt confirmed this. The only other explaination is that she had a bloke there and got rid of him quickly out the back! This seems unlikely as she is not married and wouldn't be she if she'd met someone. The description does match her and my dads deceased father who died when they were young. It still puzzles me as i've also heard about people seeing glimpses into the past, like a photo, but not actual ghosts, so possibly that happened. My friend wont talk about it much, she seemed freaked out. I wonder what evidence I would actually need to believe for sure in this sort of thing. If its true why is there no evidence? Also psychics are a bit strange. Has anyone ever been to one, do they just talk a load of bull... ? It leads me to think that maybe we are all a bit psychic...I often know whos calling when the phone rings...and how do animals know their way back home when owners have moved house miles away? Maybe all creatures have some ability but we've lost touch with ours because of civilization and in our busy lifestyles we don't need it, but maybe animals have still kept their abilities..and some of us maybe? The list could go on..what about aliens?!!! I don't think we could actually be the only living creatures in the universe but I can't quite believe that people think they've seen one/been abducted. Anyway all this rambling..what are your views? :-)