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Sat 21/10/06 at 23:40
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"@RichSmedley"
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What commands respect?

In the last few years this question has puzzled me.

After people find out I'm a Chartered Accountant they seem to completely change their attitude to me and treat me with a lot more respect than before they knew that.

Seeing me with BA (Hons), ACMA after my name seems to make people think I've changed into a completely different person to be treated completely differently to before they knew this fact.

From my perspective it seems that after knowing this fact they seem to think I'm a better person and a more "respectible person of society" knowing that I've "got a good education" and that I'm "to be more trusted" than most other people.

Boll*cks.

I didn't do all 17 exams to become a Chartered Accountant to command respect and think I'm better than anyone else I did it because I wanted to and because it was something I knew I could do - I've always been good with numbers so I guess it was a natural transition for me.

I think on this forum we are all unique in our own way and all command our own "respect" in our own way. I did start to write my own own opinion on this but after a bit I didn't think it would have been appropriate to have posted my thoughts on how individuals on this forum command respect and scrapped it so I was just wondering:

What gains your respect?

How do you think people respect you?
Sun 22/10/06 at 10:34
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"AkaSeraphim"
Posts: 9,397
Borat §agdiyev wrote:

> I have to admit that I used to have some preconceptions about
> bringing up children. That compared to working it was an easy
> option perhaps ... I don't know.

My ex use to say to me that i had an easy life. That id sit on my ass all day doing nothing. I left him with My youngest 1 day and i went out for the day with My eldest and a friend. All he had to do was feed and change him nothing much else he was just a baby couldnt even crawl. When i got back he was in a wet nappy, and hadnt been fed, he wasnt even with him he took him to his mothers. I asked him why he didnt do anything and he said he was busy! Gees XBOX yeah soooo busy, he said he cried so he took him to his mums and didnt even think to pass on his bottle or nappies to her she assumed he had done it.

he couldnt handle it, he couldnt cope! I had that 24/7 he had it a few hours.



> Bringing up children is a full time job ... more than that. If
> I'm at work, when I finish for the day, that's it.

Exactly, people that work go usually 9-5 you get your weekends. I am usually with my kids 24/7 and always up and down doing something.


> As for being on benefits, well I think you're right ... they
> need your attention more than anything at this young age.

I think they do. When there older and in school when they need me that little bit less ill go out and work. I see it as i brought them in to the world, im there because they need me. When there out at pre-school school etc... i will then go out and support and bring up the kids i brought in to the world!

I dont like been on benefits and its not what i expected would happen but it did.
Sun 22/10/06 at 10:19
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Posts: 20,776
Seraphim wrote:

> People think that been a single mum on benefits is just to easy
> and that you get everything on a plate. Its not true at all it
> really isnt.
>
> I dont think people respect me, i think they now see me as just
> some young single mum who hasnt a care in the world, and that
> breeding is just an easy life!

I have to admit that I used to have some preconceptions about bringing up children. That compared to working it was an easy option perhaps ... I don't know.

But that was all blown out of the water when I met you. Bringing up children is a full time job ... more than that. If I'm at work, when I finish for the day, that's it ... I can go home and my free time is my free time. Having children is a 24 hour job and not one to be taken lightly. Heh, they can be tiring just to watch sometimes, and you always have to be alert and on your guard.

I guess I had no real idea what bringing up children entailed ... but whenever I've seen you and the boys together, it's always seemed to me you are such a natural mother, you have all the love in the world for your children.

As for being on benefits, well I think you're right ... they need your attention more than anything at this young age. Some mums may be tempted to leave their children with babysitters during the days and go to work, but I don't think that's the best option myself. Your children should always come first. If people turn their nose up at you because you don't work, well they are the one with the problem, prejudiced ... everyones situation is unique and you are doing the best you can in the situation you find yourself in.
Sun 22/10/06 at 07:54
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"AkaSeraphim"
Posts: 9,397
These days as ive seen it, from my view people that get respect is the people that go out an have a decent Job.

I was respected more when i had a job anyway. Then maybe not as much when i left work and had my Son, then the second son soon came along. Though i think peoples respect for me went when i was left a single mum bringing up 2 kids. Now i didnt ask for any of it and it was totally out of the blue, well for me anyway.

Now im having Boy number 3 and i think now im seen as someone bumming of benefits. Thats not the case though, i would love to go back to work, but then i also chose to have these kids what am i to do turn round and go out and work and not be there for them? I reguarly go to the jobcentre when im called in to the back to work stuff. Ok i cant get back to work right now but i hope to after a year or so.

I just see it as ive not worked from been 21, im now 24 soon 25. To hell with what other people think. Ive enough years ahead me to work and support my family.

People think that been a single mum on benefits is just to easy and that you get everything on a plate. Its not true at all it really isnt.

I dont think people respect me, i think they now see me as just some young single mum who hasnt a care in the world, and that breeding is just an easy life!
Sun 22/10/06 at 01:04
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Posts: 20,776
I don't think respect should be about credentials really ... I mean I do respect people who work very hard to achieve a qualification .. for example two people I know studied for a PHD and through their determination and hard work, they achieved their goal. It shows true commitment, something that should be respected.

But it could apply to anything .. just because you've been through higher education doesn't mean people should respect you. So many courses these days - people can basically just fudge their way through, turn up a few days a week, and have a degree at the end of it - a qualification in something. Doesn't necessarily mean they'll be good workers, or that they should automatically command respect.

What gains my respect is strong personality traits .. a positive mental attitude even when things are getting extremely difficult .. a single minded will to succeed in whatever goal a person has in life. Doesn't matter what that goal is really, everyone's will be different. Other traits I respect .. loyalty to those they care about, devotion to family and friends, open mindedness, selflessness, a realistic attitude to life, an acceptance and knowledge of ones skills and limitations .... also having an ability to easily adapt to new situations and environments.

Oh and anyone who completed Contra 3 on the SNES ... that was rock :P

I don't know if people respect me ... right now there's not a lot to respect I don't think ... I'm not working, kinda gone off the rails a bit, got some hard graft ahead in order to get things back on track. But enough about that. I do have a degree myself ... BSc. Computing Technology ... I quite often question whether it was worth the time and money though ...
Sat 21/10/06 at 23:40
Regular
"@RichSmedley"
Posts: 10,009
What commands respect?

In the last few years this question has puzzled me.

After people find out I'm a Chartered Accountant they seem to completely change their attitude to me and treat me with a lot more respect than before they knew that.

Seeing me with BA (Hons), ACMA after my name seems to make people think I've changed into a completely different person to be treated completely differently to before they knew this fact.

From my perspective it seems that after knowing this fact they seem to think I'm a better person and a more "respectible person of society" knowing that I've "got a good education" and that I'm "to be more trusted" than most other people.

Boll*cks.

I didn't do all 17 exams to become a Chartered Accountant to command respect and think I'm better than anyone else I did it because I wanted to and because it was something I knew I could do - I've always been good with numbers so I guess it was a natural transition for me.

I think on this forum we are all unique in our own way and all command our own "respect" in our own way. I did start to write my own own opinion on this but after a bit I didn't think it would have been appropriate to have posted my thoughts on how individuals on this forum command respect and scrapped it so I was just wondering:

What gains your respect?

How do you think people respect you?

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