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Thu 31/07/03 at 20:09
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Every few months or so there is an article in the newspaper reading something a long the lines of "is this the end of tooth decay" or something like that, which detail some miracle treatment hat tells how a simple mouth wash or a coating on the teeth will permanently eradicate decay. I got thinking about this after i read one of these articles a few days ago, how this will probably never actually happen. For this to happen somebody ie a dental company actually has to invent this product or treatment, now in all likely this has already happened i mean come on think about it, we can blatantly do it, there are resistant paints and stuff which hold up for years exposed to violent conditions or machine parts coated in plastics to reduce corrosion, I don't think it would be the biggest of our medical advances to have created such a thing. Then i realised why would they, this treatment might already have been invented but who'd develop it? who'd be the ones to apply it to people? dentists of course...and what happens if there are no more dodgy teeth......a lot of unemployed dentists, this is clearly one of those situations were by solving the problem of the masses, the few who do it shoot themselves in the foot. Personally i don't think they'd do this as they have to much of a good thing going on at the moment and the industry is worth to much, not only would dentist go under, all the major mouthwash companies and paste manufaturers would be hit immediately and probably be bankrupt, some how i don't think they'd ever let this happen...
Mon 04/08/03 at 03:34
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mikelar wrote:
> pb wrote:
> It's normal that things have to be tested first, sometimes for
> years.
>
> indeed, after studying Biology at A-level, i now know that it can take
> 10+ years for an antibiotic to be introduced fully (and safely) into
> the public.

Although it would be more beneficial if antibiotics were shelved in favour of phages.
Sun 03/08/03 at 14:52
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They could make cars which last longer, using different materials.
They choose not to as if they did people would replace their cars far less often, thus less money.

Same kind of thing really.

I'd be very surprised if there wasn't some element of holding back by pharmeceutical companies and the like.

We already know they petition for various law reforms (a very expensive business, but it works), such as longer protection of intellectual property rights, so they can 'own' anything they invent for longer.

They even try to palm off pills to treat social misfittingness and the like.

I think it's safe to assume they'll look at all angles of maximising profit margins.
Sun 03/08/03 at 14:34
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pb wrote:
> It's normal that things have to be tested first, sometimes for years.

indeed, after studying Biology at A-level, i now know that it can take 10+ years for an antibiotic to be introduced fully (and safely) into the public.
Sun 03/08/03 at 09:49
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It's normal that things have to be tested first, sometimes for years. That's why I'm concerned about this laser eye treatment, it hasn't been going on for long enough to work out any longer term effects.

Even things like fillings can have undesired effects. Women are now told to have white fillings and replace any silver fillings they already have because it affects pregnancy.

But, yes, we will still need dentists for lots of things. I shall be going for my check-up in 2 weeks, doesn't bother me, apart from having to sit in the waiting room watching that dodgy DVD with a monkey brushing his teeth.
Thu 31/07/03 at 23:11
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this is true, but they have allegedly made progress with some kind of plastic coating
Thu 31/07/03 at 22:14
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Perhaps you could coat teeth with a strong polymer. However there is a difference between coating industrial tools and coating the teeth in your mouth.

For a start there would have to be long term studies to make sure the coating didnt make you dumb, smart or indifferent. And of course you would still need dentists for people losing their teeth or getting infections.
Thu 31/07/03 at 22:07
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Lindgren has a valid point but they would be needed to a much lesser extent and so fewer would be needed, and it would still screw the dental products market up.

Its probably a similar situation with cars. Oil companies and car manufacturers are blatantly working together to make sure cars stay inneficient and burning oil away merrily, wearing out engines, increasing profits and making both wealthy as hell through agreements.
Thu 31/07/03 at 21:54
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they could make it expensive. anyway, chemicals/machines/etc. have already out done man of many jobs, and nobody particularly likes dentists (i have no fear at all of needles, dentists, doctors or whatever, but ive seen loads of people worry and cry and stuff) dentistry will gradually no longer be taught and everyone would start to use this mouthwash or whatever. alternatively i think that fillings have little spy things in so evil dentists can hear whatever you say, and can emit pain at any time...
Thu 31/07/03 at 21:52
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Even if people had healthy teeth, dentists would still be needed. People can get infections by being run down or need braces monitored. People would still need check-ups and not everyone would take advantage of new developments. I doubt very much dentists would be out of a job.
Thu 31/07/03 at 20:09
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Every few months or so there is an article in the newspaper reading something a long the lines of "is this the end of tooth decay" or something like that, which detail some miracle treatment hat tells how a simple mouth wash or a coating on the teeth will permanently eradicate decay. I got thinking about this after i read one of these articles a few days ago, how this will probably never actually happen. For this to happen somebody ie a dental company actually has to invent this product or treatment, now in all likely this has already happened i mean come on think about it, we can blatantly do it, there are resistant paints and stuff which hold up for years exposed to violent conditions or machine parts coated in plastics to reduce corrosion, I don't think it would be the biggest of our medical advances to have created such a thing. Then i realised why would they, this treatment might already have been invented but who'd develop it? who'd be the ones to apply it to people? dentists of course...and what happens if there are no more dodgy teeth......a lot of unemployed dentists, this is clearly one of those situations were by solving the problem of the masses, the few who do it shoot themselves in the foot. Personally i don't think they'd do this as they have to much of a good thing going on at the moment and the industry is worth to much, not only would dentist go under, all the major mouthwash companies and paste manufaturers would be hit immediately and probably be bankrupt, some how i don't think they'd ever let this happen...

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