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Lately there has been one thing that has really annoyed me.
My gran recently went into hospital after she fell at home. She now has a stick to walk with and generally struggles about.
So I take her to the doctors, hospital, shops etc so that she has someone to help her about.
She has one of those disabled car badges so that whatever car she is in can park in the disabled spaces at the hospital, doctors and supermarkets etc.
So we arrive at the supermarket today, its raining and I drive towards the door to where the disabled spaces are. All but one of them are full so we park in it and go to do the shopping.
I check to see if the cars all have the badges and stickers, about 5 out of the 20 or so spaces don't.
At the end I take my gran to sit in the car while my mum goes through the checkout sitting in the car I watch some of the so called "Disabled" folk get into their cars.
And thats what annoys me, those who aren't disabled, don't have the badge or the need to park in the spaces parking in them. Most disabled areas have a space beside the car so that a wheelchair can fit - this makes any ordinary space useless to a wheelchair user.
What I was wondering though is what happens if you do park in one of the disabled spaces and your car is seen by a parking attendant/police etc
Is it a crime?
The ones at one of the big shopping centers detect when the car goes over a sensor and asks to keep them free for disabled users yet others still park in them.
Just P's me off when those who need them can't use them because some mong faced tard is too lazy to park somewhere else.
My gran recently went into hospital after she fell at home. She now has a stick to walk with and generally struggles about.
So I take her to the doctors, hospital, shops etc so that she has someone to help her about.
She has one of those disabled car badges so that whatever car she is in can park in the disabled spaces at the hospital, doctors and supermarkets etc.
So we arrive at the supermarket today, its raining and I drive towards the door to where the disabled spaces are. All but one of them are full so we park in it and go to do the shopping.
I check to see if the cars all have the badges and stickers, about 5 out of the 20 or so spaces don't.
At the end I take my gran to sit in the car while my mum goes through the checkout sitting in the car I watch some of the so called "Disabled" folk get into their cars.
And thats what annoys me, those who aren't disabled, don't have the badge or the need to park in the spaces parking in them. Most disabled areas have a space beside the car so that a wheelchair can fit - this makes any ordinary space useless to a wheelchair user.
What I was wondering though is what happens if you do park in one of the disabled spaces and your car is seen by a parking attendant/police etc
Is it a crime?
The ones at one of the big shopping centers detect when the car goes over a sensor and asks to keep them free for disabled users yet others still park in them.
Just P's me off when those who need them can't use them because some mong faced tard is too lazy to park somewhere else.
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Clazon wrote:
> i find it interesting that dw said you could get done for
> going the wrong way round a car park as: theyre private property and
> dont have public national roadsigns.
My local Tesco's car park has normal roadsigns. But yeah, apparantly, it's illegal to go the wrong way round a car park. Supposed you went into someone, yet they didn't have a rule for which way you go around. Who would be to blame? Interesting, though.
Tesco's in Sunbury is going through a massive refurbishment, and almost half the car park has gone. They're not gunna be able to cope, but let's not go into that now. Almost all the spaces that have gone are disabled. But, they're getting them back, plus an extra ten spaces. They've got people who go around checking the cars during store opening hours now. You can't park for longer then 2 hours and you have to use Tesco of you're gunna park in there. They can issue fines if you park in a disabled bay, if you park in a parent with baby bay (you need the special Tesco's sticker) and if you go the wrong way round. The signs are there for a reason, afterall. These fines are on the spot, and they send your details off to someone and they decide if what you've done needs following up, or something.
Parking in a disabled bay is like parking in a bus stop, or bus lane. You're stopping someone from using it, dispite them requiring the extra space etc. I despise bus lanes...
> i find it interesting that dw said you could get done for
> going the wrong way round a car park as: theyre private property and
> dont have public national roadsigns.
My local Tesco's car park has normal roadsigns. But yeah, apparantly, it's illegal to go the wrong way round a car park. Supposed you went into someone, yet they didn't have a rule for which way you go around. Who would be to blame? Interesting, though.
Tesco's in Sunbury is going through a massive refurbishment, and almost half the car park has gone. They're not gunna be able to cope, but let's not go into that now. Almost all the spaces that have gone are disabled. But, they're getting them back, plus an extra ten spaces. They've got people who go around checking the cars during store opening hours now. You can't park for longer then 2 hours and you have to use Tesco of you're gunna park in there. They can issue fines if you park in a disabled bay, if you park in a parent with baby bay (you need the special Tesco's sticker) and if you go the wrong way round. The signs are there for a reason, afterall. These fines are on the spot, and they send your details off to someone and they decide if what you've done needs following up, or something.
Parking in a disabled bay is like parking in a bus stop, or bus lane. You're stopping someone from using it, dispite them requiring the extra space etc. I despise bus lanes...
Possibly a voice activated cattle prod to deal with an 'bystanders'
The sagacious one wrote:
No one wants to be seen
> giving a disabled person grief so most will turn a blind eye.
pun not intended.
No one wants to be seen
> giving a disabled person grief so most will turn a blind eye.
pun not intended.
If I were disabled I'd just drive into the store and shop. A mini would be a suitable vehicle one presumes. No one wants to be seen giving a disabled person grief so most will turn a blind eye. Some sort of shovel attachment will help with the procurement of goods and there is no need to que, as tills are for chumps. Just drive on out through the shop frontage.
It's a sad fact of life but it happens a lot. I've got a disabled badge (with a *lovely* photo ;-) and always see non-disabled people parking in disabled spaces. And, from personal experience, I know there's no point saying anything to them because they've always got some excuse ("I won't be a minute - I'm just getting some stamps") or get abusive. The only person ever to move when I pointed out that they'd parked in a disabled space was a policeman - he said he wasn't going to be long but asmitted he was int he wrong, apologised and moved his car.
As to whether it's a crime - not exactly. The supermarket or shop or whatever can employ a company to patrol the car park and dish out tickets a long as there are signs stating this but none of the major supermarkets seem to do this. The only on in Kidderminster I know of is Somerfield.
On a positive note, my local Sainsbury's (in Kidderminster) recently had an extension built and had a bit of a car park re-shuffle at the same time. When it re-opened there were only 8 disabled spaces in the entire car park (about a thousand spaces) - EIGHT! Needless to say finding one of these spaces empty was about as likely as a politician giving a straight answer, so I wrote a letter of complaint stating my annoyance at their short-sightedness and that I was unhappily taking my custom to Tesco's (which was a shame because Sainsbury's have the best trolleys for attaching to wheelchairs). Two months later, me and the missus pop into Sainsbury's to grab some milk (she was gonna run in while I waited in the car) and - lo and behold - they'd added about an extra 16 spaces! Mine and other disabled people lives were made that little bit easier.
As to whether it's a crime - not exactly. The supermarket or shop or whatever can employ a company to patrol the car park and dish out tickets a long as there are signs stating this but none of the major supermarkets seem to do this. The only on in Kidderminster I know of is Somerfield.
On a positive note, my local Sainsbury's (in Kidderminster) recently had an extension built and had a bit of a car park re-shuffle at the same time. When it re-opened there were only 8 disabled spaces in the entire car park (about a thousand spaces) - EIGHT! Needless to say finding one of these spaces empty was about as likely as a politician giving a straight answer, so I wrote a letter of complaint stating my annoyance at their short-sightedness and that I was unhappily taking my custom to Tesco's (which was a shame because Sainsbury's have the best trolleys for attaching to wheelchairs). Two months later, me and the missus pop into Sainsbury's to grab some milk (she was gonna run in while I waited in the car) and - lo and behold - they'd added about an extra 16 spaces! Mine and other disabled people lives were made that little bit easier.
Practical Magic wrote:
> he didn't want one - people may
> need to use the spaces yet not have a badge for various reasons, such
> as not wanting to admit they need one.
PMs grandad or anyone else.
> he didn't want one - people may
> need to use the spaces yet not have a badge for various reasons, such
> as not wanting to admit they need one.
PMs grandad or anyone else.
Practical Magic wrote:
> My
> grandad has a sticker, and he could walk fine for very short distances
Clazon wrote:
> i know this might sound harsh, but if your grandad doesnt
> have a sticker he shouldnt park there.
...
> My
> grandad has a sticker, and he could walk fine for very short distances
Clazon wrote:
> i know this might sound harsh, but if your grandad doesnt
> have a sticker he shouldnt park there.
...
note PM that ali said he checked for stickers and 5 cars didnt have them. also, i know this might sound harsh, but if your grandad doesnt have a sticker he shouldnt park there. just like if you were ill and you didnt go to the hospital, you would be punishing yourself. i know people find it hard to admit they have a problem, but try and persuade him, or get him one and stick it in without him noticing (maybe untrue though). i find it interesting that dw said you could get done for going the wrong way round a car park as: theyre private property and dont have public national roadsigns.
i think its wrong to park in one of those spaces if you dont have a difficulty. theyre should be a swipe thing for orange badges at the bigger car parks (this would also mean having to put barcodes or data strips on the badges though) if this happened, then an alarm could go off, or a message could be sent to an office, if a car triggered a sensor in the bay and then a card wasnt swiped within 2 mins or something.
i think its wrong to park in one of those spaces if you dont have a difficulty. theyre should be a swipe thing for orange badges at the bigger car parks (this would also mean having to put barcodes or data strips on the badges though) if this happened, then an alarm could go off, or a message could be sent to an office, if a car triggered a sensor in the bay and then a card wasnt swiped within 2 mins or something.
Whilst some do use the spaces illegally, it's possibly worth remembering that some disabilities are not as obvious as others. My grandad has a sticker, and he could walk fine for very short distances - so if you saw him getting out of the car he'd look normal, yet that was about the most he could walk and sometimes he had trouble. Also it took him ages to get an oragne badge, he didn't want one - people may need to use the spaces yet not have a badge for various reasons, such as not wanting to admit they need one.
I always find it hard to judge based on a visual alone.
I always find it hard to judge based on a visual alone.
I find that rather selfish.
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