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Fri 25/07/03 at 01:15
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I'll try make this as intelligent as I can but that might be difficult.
I want your views on people who protect their house/family etc when someone breaks in. Not what happened to the guy who shot and killed one kid and injured another (Mr Martin I think) as I know that has been discussed to death on here before.

For me I think a lot of our laws are totally messed up and it now seems more criminals are taking legal action when something happens to them which to me just seems so stupid and wrong.

If someone was to break into my house tonight I personally wouldn't hold back at causing them pain. (of course I would make sure I put my wallet and car keys in their pocket and then a few cuts on my arms to say to the police he had stole from me and attacked me as I'm pretty sure that he would find a way to take some action against me in court even though he was breaking into my house)
What annoys me is that someonee could break into your house, steal, harm your family, rape someone etc and we have very little rights to stop them.

So how far should we be allowed to go to protect our family and home?

I think as soon as they step foot inside your house you should have the right to prevent them from stealing and causing harm to your family by any means possible.
Fri 25/07/03 at 01:15
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I'll try make this as intelligent as I can but that might be difficult.
I want your views on people who protect their house/family etc when someone breaks in. Not what happened to the guy who shot and killed one kid and injured another (Mr Martin I think) as I know that has been discussed to death on here before.

For me I think a lot of our laws are totally messed up and it now seems more criminals are taking legal action when something happens to them which to me just seems so stupid and wrong.

If someone was to break into my house tonight I personally wouldn't hold back at causing them pain. (of course I would make sure I put my wallet and car keys in their pocket and then a few cuts on my arms to say to the police he had stole from me and attacked me as I'm pretty sure that he would find a way to take some action against me in court even though he was breaking into my house)
What annoys me is that someonee could break into your house, steal, harm your family, rape someone etc and we have very little rights to stop them.

So how far should we be allowed to go to protect our family and home?

I think as soon as they step foot inside your house you should have the right to prevent them from stealing and causing harm to your family by any means possible.
Fri 25/07/03 at 01:25
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Posts: 23,218
I personally think that once that person is inside your house then you should have the right to use as much force as required to restrain them, if that means breaking an arm or leg then i think that is ok.
But the law nowadays is wrong, they favour the guilty and forget the victim. Just take one look at the asylum issues (but thats a whole new topic) criminals are out of control nowadays and i feel it is also due to foreigners in the country.
Fri 25/07/03 at 01:27
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Not all of them are bad but you look at places like Oldham...
Fri 25/07/03 at 01:47
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Posts: 20,776
AliBoy wrote:
>
> I think as soon as they step foot inside your house you should have
> the right to prevent them from stealing and causing harm to your
> family by any means possible.

*nods in full agreement*

if someone got into my house I'd kick him til he stopped moving, then kick him some more.

it is your right to ensure your house is safe
Fri 25/07/03 at 02:17
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"+34 Intellect"
Posts: 21,334
Under current law if your front and back doors are unlocked a person can walk straight through your house without having caused any offence. To me thats just wrong, your house is YOUR house. I think you should be able to use any force you wish against someone who has entered your house that does not have a right to do so.
Fri 25/07/03 at 09:51
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Posts: 10,364
Civillian Arrest (They call it something like that)

You can arrest the person yourself - if you gain them under control until the police come. Unfortuanatly though - People who are too aggressive may be charged aswell for assualt etc.

Stupid Laws.

I agree with what you are saying Aliboy.
Fri 25/07/03 at 10:55
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People should be allowed to use the amount of force necessary to prevent the crime occuring. If that means killing the intruder because they feel threatened then I'll shed no tears for the criminals.

The law should say that the moment you illegally enter private property with criminal intent then you forfeit your legal rights until you leave that property.
Fri 25/07/03 at 11:01
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"Brownium Motion"
Posts: 4,100
In the US, they have the right to bear arms against intruders in your property. Then again, most US laws are crazy. As are quite a few Americans.

The problem is that victims of crime are not given enough protection and you can get situations where the instruder sues the victim for breaking a bone while trying to break-in. Ludicrous? Yes. Probable? Yes.

Who's to blame? The Government - their promises to be "tough on crime and the causes of crime" sounds hollow in my ears.
Fri 25/07/03 at 11:04
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
AliBoy wrote:

> What annoys me is that someonee could break into your house, steal,
> harm your family, rape someone etc and we have very little rights to
> stop them.

And then some fecking human rights idiot will the support the criminal if he/she gets a whupping from the person/people they are trying to rob. Also the lame old "yeah but your stolen goods will be covered by insurance" wil be used to justify the actions of some mong brain whose nicked all your stuff, sold it for 1/10th of the value and spent the proceeds on crack. hey'll then claim it's the drugs fault for making them steal.

Shoot the theives and the human rights feckers. We don't need them and life is too short and full of decent people to bother with grand notions such as rehibilitation.
Fri 25/07/03 at 11:19
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"The Red Shift"
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up to a certain point i think its alright. no guns or weapons. but pushing anything to scare them away but not hurt them, to cause medication or hospitalisation. im not too sure on the subject though. good question ali.

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