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Thu 19/06/03 at 12:52
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I read somewhere recently (the Daily Mail, no less) that one of the reasons for assuming the "brace" position in an air crash is that it preserves the teeth better, allowing for a cheap form of identification if you crash and burn. This led to a long debate on the following question:

How do you know if the body you get back is the one you were meant to get?

A bit morbid perhaps, but the possibility exists after an event such as a plane crash, where the bodies will be in pieces and burnt, that you might not get back what you were expecting. The real question I suppose is "are there doctors that would knowingly give you back a body, where they weren't sure of the indentity to: a) give peace of mind to relatives, b) make it quick and easy for themselves?". A bit of a paranoid and cynical way to look at the world, but, in theory at least, it could happen - and it's not like doctor's take their oath and from then on do no wrong - Look at Harold shipman, one of Britain's most prolific serial killers.

The only positive way of identifying a body is either DNA, or dental records. So short of having your own medical lab, you have to take the doctor's word. Are you the sort of person that would question this? Is he Quincy, or a bit shifty, like Dr No? Would the doctor's word provide the peace of mind you need to be reassured that it's the body you want back? The only way I could think of this being disproved is if the victim had an artificial limb, or gold teeth, then had a cremation. But how many people look at the ashes after a cremation, or indeed at a body after a plane crash?

Sorry if this upsets anyone, but it's just hypothetical. The sad fact is that there are probably people in the medical profession that would do this sort of thing to save time and money.
Thu 19/06/03 at 12:52
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I read somewhere recently (the Daily Mail, no less) that one of the reasons for assuming the "brace" position in an air crash is that it preserves the teeth better, allowing for a cheap form of identification if you crash and burn. This led to a long debate on the following question:

How do you know if the body you get back is the one you were meant to get?

A bit morbid perhaps, but the possibility exists after an event such as a plane crash, where the bodies will be in pieces and burnt, that you might not get back what you were expecting. The real question I suppose is "are there doctors that would knowingly give you back a body, where they weren't sure of the indentity to: a) give peace of mind to relatives, b) make it quick and easy for themselves?". A bit of a paranoid and cynical way to look at the world, but, in theory at least, it could happen - and it's not like doctor's take their oath and from then on do no wrong - Look at Harold shipman, one of Britain's most prolific serial killers.

The only positive way of identifying a body is either DNA, or dental records. So short of having your own medical lab, you have to take the doctor's word. Are you the sort of person that would question this? Is he Quincy, or a bit shifty, like Dr No? Would the doctor's word provide the peace of mind you need to be reassured that it's the body you want back? The only way I could think of this being disproved is if the victim had an artificial limb, or gold teeth, then had a cremation. But how many people look at the ashes after a cremation, or indeed at a body after a plane crash?

Sorry if this upsets anyone, but it's just hypothetical. The sad fact is that there are probably people in the medical profession that would do this sort of thing to save time and money.
Thu 19/06/03 at 12:57
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In an air crash the whole thing would most likely explode and leave very little of anything left.
Thu 19/06/03 at 13:04
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Not entirely true. It all depends on whether the fuel ignites or not. Aviation gas is a special mix that when ingnited flares up but then dies down very quickly. If it does set fire to the plane and passengers, they're more likely to have the skin burnt away and leave a skeleton. If it's a "nose-down" crash, then they'll probably lose most of their limbs.
Thu 19/06/03 at 13:08
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I would imagine that the law prevents them from giving the wrong body away, incase the real owners turn up.

But then you can't trust the law nowadays, seeing as you get more jailtime for camcordering at a cinema than you do getting drunk, going driving and killing someone....
Thu 19/06/03 at 13:13
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Good question though!
Its a bit like getting cremated anyway. For instance my dad died and he was cremated, but when your given back the ashes you dont know wat or who you getting.
The reason being the people that do the cremation do it when there is a few bodies to be cremated so that the save on fuel.BELIEVE IT OR NOT ITS TRUE, afterwards all the ashes from the bodies are given to the people that want the ashes. So if you think about it your getting bak a bit of everyone. They dont just cremate one person at one time.
Thu 19/06/03 at 13:43
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If it was me in the crash, i wouldnt care. If it was a releticve i suppose i'd question it!
Thu 19/06/03 at 14:18
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Garlic Bread!? wrote:
> If it was me in the crash, i wouldnt care. If it was a releticve i
> suppose i'd question it!

Well you wouldn't care majourly because you would be dead!
Thu 19/06/03 at 18:56
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hell...i'd care!!

I spose its a cheaper Cremation?? no sorry (out of tact)


And what if you was buried under someone elses name

Going back to the ...what would you have on your gravestone topic!

Anyway, the thought is actually quite sickening, it must happen but that's life. In a crash like that Kyz22 i right your dead so..
Thu 19/06/03 at 21:55
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If I was dead, and could think, up with the big guy, I wouldn't really mind that much if people didn't know which body was mine or, the wrong body was belived to be mine. It's the soul of the person you respect and love, not the shell, or body they temporery body they live in. It's like respecting clothing. That's what I believe anyway, sorry if that upsets anyone, but that's my view.
Thu 19/06/03 at 21:56
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Skorp1on wrote:
> If I was dead, and could think, up with the big guy, I wouldn't really
> mind that much if people didn't know which body was mine or, the wrong
> body was belived to be mine. It's the soul of the person you respect
> and love, not the shell, or body they temporery body they live in.
> It's like respecting clothing. That's what I believe anyway, sorry if
> that upsets anyone, but that's my view.

i totally agree with you! The soul lives on...

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