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It's annoying. Someone sits down opposite to me at work during a lunch break and as an advert for the Spear of Christ appears on TV, they start talking about religion and how it affects the world.
This is fine and I'd even encourage it, but the moment I start to reply and get in to a far deeper and more interesting conversation on religion and life they seem to get scared and back off. Okay, so many people don't want to engage their brains at lunch time, but it happens far more often than that and at other times as well.
History, Religion, Science, Psychology, Para-psychology, nobody wants to talk about it, yet you mention what happened in last night's Eastenders and they can ramble on for hours, drawing yet more people in to the conversation, even if they haven't seen the programme!
I sometimes wonder whether there are any people left who want to engage their brain at all, or if the whole population of this country just wants to let the Sun and TV do the thinking for them. I bet most of them have never even seen the Discovery Channel, even if they do have it, they'd rather watch The Bill.
At least this forum makes a stab at discussing something interesting once in a while, rather than "did u c tv last night". Don't get me wrong, TV is a good source of information (though I still trust less than half of what I see) as long as you don't just stick to soaps.
Anyone else find people backing off as soon as the conversation gets too intelligent, or is it just me?
This is fine and I'd even encourage it, but the moment I start to reply and get in to a far deeper and more interesting conversation on religion and life they seem to get scared and back off. Okay, so many people don't want to engage their brains at lunch time, but it happens far more often than that and at other times as well.
History, Religion, Science, Psychology, Para-psychology, nobody wants to talk about it, yet you mention what happened in last night's Eastenders and they can ramble on for hours, drawing yet more people in to the conversation, even if they haven't seen the programme!
I sometimes wonder whether there are any people left who want to engage their brain at all, or if the whole population of this country just wants to let the Sun and TV do the thinking for them. I bet most of them have never even seen the Discovery Channel, even if they do have it, they'd rather watch The Bill.
At least this forum makes a stab at discussing something interesting once in a while, rather than "did u c tv last night". Don't get me wrong, TV is a good source of information (though I still trust less than half of what I see) as long as you don't just stick to soaps.
Anyone else find people backing off as soon as the conversation gets too intelligent, or is it just me?
pb wrote:
> Unless you join a Coven, and then it's all one sided...
I must say I do like the idea of tranced-out "skyclad" Buffy lookalikes dancing in circles to the pipes of Pan.
> Unless you join a Coven, and then it's all one sided...
I must say I do like the idea of tranced-out "skyclad" Buffy lookalikes dancing in circles to the pipes of Pan.
Black Glove wrote:
> People will happily talk about the ins-and-outs of the Big Brother
> housemates for hours. Mention the occult or something, and suddenly
> you're a bit weird.
Unless you join a Coven, and then it's all one sided...
I'm lucky that there are still one or two people who can hold a decent conversation at work without going on about trash tv or expressing their views as taught to them by the daily newspaper. Modern media has a lot to answer for!
> People will happily talk about the ins-and-outs of the Big Brother
> housemates for hours. Mention the occult or something, and suddenly
> you're a bit weird.
Unless you join a Coven, and then it's all one sided...
I'm lucky that there are still one or two people who can hold a decent conversation at work without going on about trash tv or expressing their views as taught to them by the daily newspaper. Modern media has a lot to answer for!
All I can say is I don't back off. I like discussing things of a philosophical nature. Even if I don't know the first thing about something I'll still probe deeper by asking questions.
I try not to have fixed opinions on anything - there's always something I don't know or haven't comprehended.
People will happily talk about the ins-and-outs of the Big Brother housemates for hours. Mention the occult or something, and suddenly you're a bit weird.
I try not to have fixed opinions on anything - there's always something I don't know or haven't comprehended.
People will happily talk about the ins-and-outs of the Big Brother housemates for hours. Mention the occult or something, and suddenly you're a bit weird.
Couldn't agree more,
Pity there isn't more people who think like that...
Pity there isn't more people who think like that...
i know what you mean :(
it certainly seems like media and produce is geared towards the quick-fix lowest common denomenator these days doesn't it?
young kids who try to grow up too fast and people my age (23) who seem to be about as smart as people half their age. the trouble is that when learning stops, ignorance is bred and that only ever seems to lead to trouble and intolerance.
A friend of mine got beaten up for his phone and £10 by 3 blokes the other night (yes, 3... funny how these people only travel in packs.. y'know, like animals. and what for? £3.3333333 and a third of a phone each, WELL worth it ) and the only words of advice they could muster was "get yer f**king hair cut ya f**king grunger" followed by a highly amusing "waynes world" reference.
these are the people having the children (probably because they can't spell "contraceptive") and these will be their teachers. Gone are the days of the respect and gone is the urge to learn.
For example, the Big Brother show that is running at the moment; a guy on the show has been dubbed "boring" and "a geek/nerd" by all mainstream media who of course MUST appeal to the low-brow lisence payer. Not once has anyone pointed out that to achieve thoughts of such apparant randomness, a person must give any given subject a great deal of consideration. To make it worse, on the Big Brother recap show no less, a trained Psychologist (who i don't believe to ACTUALLY be trained or qualified at all) made the folliwing observation on Jon's thoughts of the "Lord of the Rings" (which ALL housemates were discussing by the way, even the young and trendy ones) "well, it's computers and geeky stuff innit?"... is that a professional opinion??
How many people watch "university challenge" compared to "the weakest link"? far fewer. and why? because The Weakest Link punishes it's contestants in the most low-brow form. unfunny and plain insulting barbs from the host and a humiliating "walk of shame!!" in a half hour show there's bound to be at least a few quesions on pop-culture or sport so that the uninformed and media-fed can answer correctly, thereby justifying their own ignorance to themselves ("if i can answer tv questions then i must be smart enough").
I'm not saying that knowing answers to higher-brow questions would make a better person, just that if more people exercised their right to think for themselves instead of blindly following the unbelievably moronic stereotypes perpoted by the media then perhaps a society of respect and tolerance may evolve.
maybe less people would feel the need to start fights with strangers, as a few seconds consideration would have already concluded that "it's only £3.33333 and a third of a phone"
we live in hope....
it certainly seems like media and produce is geared towards the quick-fix lowest common denomenator these days doesn't it?
young kids who try to grow up too fast and people my age (23) who seem to be about as smart as people half their age. the trouble is that when learning stops, ignorance is bred and that only ever seems to lead to trouble and intolerance.
A friend of mine got beaten up for his phone and £10 by 3 blokes the other night (yes, 3... funny how these people only travel in packs.. y'know, like animals. and what for? £3.3333333 and a third of a phone each, WELL worth it ) and the only words of advice they could muster was "get yer f**king hair cut ya f**king grunger" followed by a highly amusing "waynes world" reference.
these are the people having the children (probably because they can't spell "contraceptive") and these will be their teachers. Gone are the days of the respect and gone is the urge to learn.
For example, the Big Brother show that is running at the moment; a guy on the show has been dubbed "boring" and "a geek/nerd" by all mainstream media who of course MUST appeal to the low-brow lisence payer. Not once has anyone pointed out that to achieve thoughts of such apparant randomness, a person must give any given subject a great deal of consideration. To make it worse, on the Big Brother recap show no less, a trained Psychologist (who i don't believe to ACTUALLY be trained or qualified at all) made the folliwing observation on Jon's thoughts of the "Lord of the Rings" (which ALL housemates were discussing by the way, even the young and trendy ones) "well, it's computers and geeky stuff innit?"... is that a professional opinion??
How many people watch "university challenge" compared to "the weakest link"? far fewer. and why? because The Weakest Link punishes it's contestants in the most low-brow form. unfunny and plain insulting barbs from the host and a humiliating "walk of shame!!" in a half hour show there's bound to be at least a few quesions on pop-culture or sport so that the uninformed and media-fed can answer correctly, thereby justifying their own ignorance to themselves ("if i can answer tv questions then i must be smart enough").
I'm not saying that knowing answers to higher-brow questions would make a better person, just that if more people exercised their right to think for themselves instead of blindly following the unbelievably moronic stereotypes perpoted by the media then perhaps a society of respect and tolerance may evolve.
maybe less people would feel the need to start fights with strangers, as a few seconds consideration would have already concluded that "it's only £3.33333 and a third of a phone"
we live in hope....
It's not the fact that they like EastEnders, hey, I even watch it from time to time, its the way in which programmes like it dominate everything.
Last week at work I asked a couple of people what they thought of the Europe issue (the single currency, proposed constitution etc), and they looked at me like I was emitting a life-threatening odour.
"Oh God, Russ, you're so wierd, we were talking about something"
"Suit yourself", I reply.
They turned back to each other. "So what did Jon say last night on Big Brother again?", one inquired as if she was about to be given the meaning of life. And that's just a typical conversation, people, and depressingly a lot of youngsters, have either got their priorites wrong or they simply don't care.
And that is a sorry state of affairs.
Last week at work I asked a couple of people what they thought of the Europe issue (the single currency, proposed constitution etc), and they looked at me like I was emitting a life-threatening odour.
"Oh God, Russ, you're so wierd, we were talking about something"
"Suit yourself", I reply.
They turned back to each other. "So what did Jon say last night on Big Brother again?", one inquired as if she was about to be given the meaning of life. And that's just a typical conversation, people, and depressingly a lot of youngsters, have either got their priorites wrong or they simply don't care.
And that is a sorry state of affairs.
The discovery channel actually has some really cool stuff on it. It's not all about nerd stuff, whatever that is...
No, please don't start them off about eastenders again. As for pyschology, history and science etc, start talking, i'm interested...
It's annoying. Someone sits down opposite to me at work during a lunch break and as an advert for the Spear of Christ appears on TV, they start talking about religion and how it affects the world.
This is fine and I'd even encourage it, but the moment I start to reply and get in to a far deeper and more interesting conversation on religion and life they seem to get scared and back off. Okay, so many people don't want to engage their brains at lunch time, but it happens far more often than that and at other times as well.
History, Religion, Science, Psychology, Para-psychology, nobody wants to talk about it, yet you mention what happened in last night's Eastenders and they can ramble on for hours, drawing yet more people in to the conversation, even if they haven't seen the programme!
I sometimes wonder whether there are any people left who want to engage their brain at all, or if the whole population of this country just wants to let the Sun and TV do the thinking for them. I bet most of them have never even seen the Discovery Channel, even if they do have it, they'd rather watch The Bill.
At least this forum makes a stab at discussing something interesting once in a while, rather than "did u c tv last night". Don't get me wrong, TV is a good source of information (though I still trust less than half of what I see) as long as you don't just stick to soaps.
Anyone else find people backing off as soon as the conversation gets too intelligent, or is it just me?
This is fine and I'd even encourage it, but the moment I start to reply and get in to a far deeper and more interesting conversation on religion and life they seem to get scared and back off. Okay, so many people don't want to engage their brains at lunch time, but it happens far more often than that and at other times as well.
History, Religion, Science, Psychology, Para-psychology, nobody wants to talk about it, yet you mention what happened in last night's Eastenders and they can ramble on for hours, drawing yet more people in to the conversation, even if they haven't seen the programme!
I sometimes wonder whether there are any people left who want to engage their brain at all, or if the whole population of this country just wants to let the Sun and TV do the thinking for them. I bet most of them have never even seen the Discovery Channel, even if they do have it, they'd rather watch The Bill.
At least this forum makes a stab at discussing something interesting once in a while, rather than "did u c tv last night". Don't get me wrong, TV is a good source of information (though I still trust less than half of what I see) as long as you don't just stick to soaps.
Anyone else find people backing off as soon as the conversation gets too intelligent, or is it just me?