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Sat 14/10/06 at 09:32
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"AkaSeraphim"
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Vietnam death row inmate pregnant

In Vietnam pregnant woman cannot face the death penalty
Two Vietnamese prison guards have been detained after a woman held in solitary confinement was discovered to be 11 weeks pregnant.

The woman, a 39-year-old convicted heroin trafficker, was being held on death row when she became pregnant.

Police say the father of the child is a fellow prisoner who delivered food to the prisoners on death row.

Under Vietnamese law, death sentences for pregnant women must be converted to life in prison.

'Abuse of power'

Nguyen Thi Oanh, who lost an appeal against her death sentence, was due to face a firing squad later this year.

She was convicted for possessing more than one billion dong ($63,000) of heroin.

A newspaper run by the country's police ministry said the two prison guards had been thrown out of the police force for "abusing their power" in allowing the fellow inmate to remain in the woman's cell.

Her lawyer, Le Van Kien, said it was the first time a prisoner on death row had become pregnant.

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Mon 16/10/06 at 15:44
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Aye Life imprisonment should be just that.

Always makes me laugh when I hear someone got '7 life sentences' or something. How many lives has this guy got? But it just doesn't mean life does it ...
Sun 15/10/06 at 12:32
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"AkaSeraphim"
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Kawada wrote:
> No, i'd prefer firstly prisons that don't rival holiday camps
> and secondly, life to actually mean life instead of the 8 years
> or so it currently means.

I agree with you here!

Life to me is till the day you die! End of...

Since when did life mean 8 years or however long... if thats the case ive lived my life 3 times over :s
Sun 15/10/06 at 11:51
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Alfonse wrote:
> So you'd prefer it if these crims were one day back on the
> streets?

No, i'd prefer firstly prisons that don't rival holiday camps and secondly, life to actually mean life instead of the 8 years or so it currently means
Sun 15/10/06 at 10:29
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"Laughingstock"
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A lot of drug traffickers are forced into doing it by gangsters who threaten their families with death.

Imagine you were forced into that situation, got caught, and then faced this: [URL]http://www.amnesty.org/images/resources/vietnam/vietnam_deathpenalty_aug03.jpg[/URL]
Sun 15/10/06 at 09:59
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Kawada wrote:
> It is a good point pb, what makes the people who pass those
> judgements and administer the punishment above the criminal?
> Just because they are elected officials or are in positions of
> power it is ok for them to take a life?

So you'd prefer it if these crims were one day back on the streets?
Sun 15/10/06 at 08:02
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Seems like quick thinking from the woman involved...falling pregnant has saved her life.
Sat 14/10/06 at 23:52
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"Brooklyn boy"
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Eeeeeek *tries to put can lid back on*.................arghhhhhh run for your lives!!!
Sat 14/10/06 at 23:49
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Now you've opened a can of worms there ...

The whole capital punishment arguement is open again ...

*legs it*
Sat 14/10/06 at 23:10
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"Brooklyn boy"
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It is a good point pb, what makes the people who pass those judgements and administer the punishment above the criminal? Just because they are elected officials or are in positions of power it is ok for them to take a life?
Sat 14/10/06 at 22:53
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"possibly impossible"
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Alfonse wrote:
> Let her give birth then kill her I say.

Don't forget that you then have to kill the person who kills her for murder, then kill the person who kills them..etc...

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