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Wed 11/10/06 at 21:27
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A lot of films have them, I find it funny how in multi million pound blockbusters they haven't even managed to get the story consistent and correct. I think they just assume half the audience are too stupid to notice, or they just cover up the crucial plot lines with an 'I'll be back', a Kung Fu fight or a building blowing up. Yeah I'm exaggerating a tad but you know what I mean ...

You don't find nearly as many plot holes in books, because the story is so much more important for sales, not saying it doesn't happen, but in films they seem to be everywhere.

So I invite you to be as picky as you like and point out hollywood's stupidity, have a pop at the over-hyped blockbusters that you've seen, let's not stand for it anymore eh?

One thing I will say is a plot hole doesn't necessarily make a bad film ... if that were the case the Matrix trilogy would be the worst films EVER made. But they did bloody well so ...

Oh and a 'plot hole' is not something like 'Dinosaurs don't really exist' or "Aliens wouldn't speak english", you have to accept the reality the film presents to you. I'm talking about contradictions to the storyline or inconsistencies in what is told about the characters/situation.

Jeez, I feel like comic book guy ...

One that sticks in my mind then, from a series of films I happen to think are great ... The Back to the Future Trilogy ... bear with me ...

In Back to the future, the original film ... Einy, the dog, is placed in the Delorean which travels one minute forward in time. During the time, Einy disappears, with the car, and ceases to exist for that minute. He has in effect, skipped the minute.

Yet in BTTF2, The Doc asks Marty to travel forward in time with him, because his son is in trouble. How can Marty have a son, when he is with the Doc, travelling forward in time, hence skipping all those years. In fact there are two Martys, the old Marty they find in the future and the Marty who travelled forward with the Doc. Why didn't Marty cease to exist for all those years? Can anyone explain that to me?

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Thu 12/10/06 at 15:12
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"lets go back"
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Sorry. I didnt mean to be too harsh.
Thu 12/10/06 at 10:08
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Geffdof wrote:
> Its not a hard concept really.

Nowt like rubbing it in, eh? ;)
Thu 12/10/06 at 10:05
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Battlefield Earth - the plot hole is that there is a hole where the plot should have been (and the acting etc).

But aside from that, the film has more plot holes than most others put together. The most famous one is how can men who have lived in caves for all their life suddenly work out how to use Harrier Jets?

The new Star Wars films have created plot holes that even Lucas couldn't smooth over with his re-release of the original trilogy. Stuff such as Darth Vader not recognising C3PO when he still knows about his son.
Thu 12/10/06 at 09:11
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"lets go back"
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Because he intends to travel back to 1985 once they have finished their mission in 2015. He will effectively fill the void. As long as he goes back to his current time, he will be able to continue his life and have children. Its not a hard concept really.
Wed 11/10/06 at 23:01
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No :)
Wed 11/10/06 at 21:27
Regular
Posts: 20,776
A lot of films have them, I find it funny how in multi million pound blockbusters they haven't even managed to get the story consistent and correct. I think they just assume half the audience are too stupid to notice, or they just cover up the crucial plot lines with an 'I'll be back', a Kung Fu fight or a building blowing up. Yeah I'm exaggerating a tad but you know what I mean ...

You don't find nearly as many plot holes in books, because the story is so much more important for sales, not saying it doesn't happen, but in films they seem to be everywhere.

So I invite you to be as picky as you like and point out hollywood's stupidity, have a pop at the over-hyped blockbusters that you've seen, let's not stand for it anymore eh?

One thing I will say is a plot hole doesn't necessarily make a bad film ... if that were the case the Matrix trilogy would be the worst films EVER made. But they did bloody well so ...

Oh and a 'plot hole' is not something like 'Dinosaurs don't really exist' or "Aliens wouldn't speak english", you have to accept the reality the film presents to you. I'm talking about contradictions to the storyline or inconsistencies in what is told about the characters/situation.

Jeez, I feel like comic book guy ...

One that sticks in my mind then, from a series of films I happen to think are great ... The Back to the Future Trilogy ... bear with me ...

In Back to the future, the original film ... Einy, the dog, is placed in the Delorean which travels one minute forward in time. During the time, Einy disappears, with the car, and ceases to exist for that minute. He has in effect, skipped the minute.

Yet in BTTF2, The Doc asks Marty to travel forward in time with him, because his son is in trouble. How can Marty have a son, when he is with the Doc, travelling forward in time, hence skipping all those years. In fact there are two Martys, the old Marty they find in the future and the Marty who travelled forward with the Doc. Why didn't Marty cease to exist for all those years? Can anyone explain that to me?

I don't have any friends anymore do I?

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