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Anyone watching the events at Interlagos unfolding just there will probably know just what I mean when I make those noises of apparent confusion. Whoever was chosen to pick the results following the abandoning of that race has made some serious mistakes.
Firstly, how did Alonso get a podium position, or even a finish? The race was stopped BECAUSE he crashed, not before he crashed, which surely means he should't have gotten the result he did get.
Secondly, Raikkonen got given the win? How did that happen? Fisichella was ahead of him, and they had both taken the same amount of pit stops, so how in the end, did Raikkonen get the result over Fisichella?
Finally, Coulthard 4th? Surely if they were calculating the results then he should've at least got a podium finish. How didn't he? He had taken two pit stops, and he would've passed Fisichella and Raikkonen if they had taken more stops, and he also would've been ahead of Alonso, who shouldn't actually have got any points. How did Coulthard get judged as being 4th?
Well, maybe there are logic explanations for all of these points, but I fail to see them. I wasn't really paying that much attention, as I'm revising right now, and there are probably flaws in my arguments, but surely Alonso shouldn't have been judged as finishing, surely Fisichella should've finished ahead of Raikkonen, and surely Coulthard should've been in a better position than 4th if they were going by calculations.
Someone explain this crazy situation. :-)
Firstly, how did Alonso get a podium position, or even a finish? The race was stopped BECAUSE he crashed, not before he crashed, which surely means he should't have gotten the result he did get.
Secondly, Raikkonen got given the win? How did that happen? Fisichella was ahead of him, and they had both taken the same amount of pit stops, so how in the end, did Raikkonen get the result over Fisichella?
Finally, Coulthard 4th? Surely if they were calculating the results then he should've at least got a podium finish. How didn't he? He had taken two pit stops, and he would've passed Fisichella and Raikkonen if they had taken more stops, and he also would've been ahead of Alonso, who shouldn't actually have got any points. How did Coulthard get judged as being 4th?
Well, maybe there are logic explanations for all of these points, but I fail to see them. I wasn't really paying that much attention, as I'm revising right now, and there are probably flaws in my arguments, but surely Alonso shouldn't have been judged as finishing, surely Fisichella should've finished ahead of Raikkonen, and surely Coulthard should've been in a better position than 4th if they were going by calculations.
Someone explain this crazy situation. :-)
Well I can try - Coulthard very probably would have w.....
Arrggh! Nope sorry :)
Arrggh! Nope sorry :)
Had the race finished normally though, Coulthard very probably would've won. You have to admit that.
Glad someone started this topic. This was the first race I managed to see anything of and it left me totally confused (I couldn't hear the commentry). What logical reason is there for taking the results from 2 laps prior to the race being stopped? Surely the positions when the race stops should be the ones that stand as no one can foresee how the remaining laps would have panned out.
By the way, does anyone know why the car of Fisichella caught fire?
Coulthard? Don't get me going on him, okay do. So he won the opening race, seems to me he has done nothing but gripe since then. Stated that he should have won the race. If his crystal ball was good enough to say he would get through the rest of the laps without incident how come it didn't tell him not to go in for a pitstop on lap 52. Bah - not a Coulthard fan. They should dump him a let De La Rosa race.
Held my breath when Raikkonen wound his way through the debris and was delighted that he was given the win but the new ruling took some of the pleasure away.
Eventually just glad that no one was seriously injured.
By the way, does anyone know why the car of Fisichella caught fire?
Coulthard? Don't get me going on him, okay do. So he won the opening race, seems to me he has done nothing but gripe since then. Stated that he should have won the race. If his crystal ball was good enough to say he would get through the rest of the laps without incident how come it didn't tell him not to go in for a pitstop on lap 52. Bah - not a Coulthard fan. They should dump him a let De La Rosa race.
Held my breath when Raikkonen wound his way through the debris and was delighted that he was given the win but the new ruling took some of the pleasure away.
Eventually just glad that no one was seriously injured.
Grandprix wrote:
> The results were taken the lap BEFORE the red flag came out. Alonso
> crossed the line 3rd the lap before. They had completed 75% of the
> race so they finished the race there.
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Right, I get that bit now.
I just thought they were taken from when the race ended, and not previous to when the race ended.
> The results were taken the lap BEFORE the red flag came out. Alonso
> crossed the line 3rd the lap before. They had completed 75% of the
> race so they finished the race there.
---
Right, I get that bit now.
I just thought they were taken from when the race ended, and not previous to when the race ended.
It's all so crazy!
Ah well, at least both the Ferraris missed out on points again. Maybe just maybe we'll have an exciting season again.
Ah well, at least both the Ferraris missed out on points again. Maybe just maybe we'll have an exciting season again.
Well from what i gathered from Brundle the rule is that when a red flag is shown and the race is past 75% distance then they can stop the race totally and points are given out. Now when they have done that they take the race positions from the lap before as the official results. So that's why Alonso and Webber scored points now that's what Brundle was saying.
However either Brundle is reading the wrong rule book or just messed up but the race officials took the race positions from 2 or 3 laps back before the accident which is why Raikkonen has been given the win and Fisichella been dropped to second.
However either Brundle is reading the wrong rule book or just messed up but the race officials took the race positions from 2 or 3 laps back before the accident which is why Raikkonen has been given the win and Fisichella been dropped to second.
AfroJoe wrote:
> Firstly, how did Alonso get a podium position, or even a finish? The
> race was stopped BECAUSE he crashed, not before he crashed, which
> surely means he should't have gotten the result he did get.
The results were taken the lap BEFORE the red flag came out. Alonso crossed the line 3rd the lap before. They had completed 75% of the race so they finished the race there.
> Secondly, Raikkonen got given the win? How did that happen?
> Fisichella was ahead of him, and they had both taken the same amount
> of pit stops, so how in the end, did Raikkonen get the result over
> Fisichella?
This is what I didn't get. I thought Fisichella had led for a lap before the red flag came out.
> Finally, Coulthard 4th? Surely if they were calculating the results
> then he should've at least got a podium finish. How didn't he?
Coulthard pitted, came out in 4th, crossed the line and then the red flag came out.
I hope that clears that up.
> Firstly, how did Alonso get a podium position, or even a finish? The
> race was stopped BECAUSE he crashed, not before he crashed, which
> surely means he should't have gotten the result he did get.
The results were taken the lap BEFORE the red flag came out. Alonso crossed the line 3rd the lap before. They had completed 75% of the race so they finished the race there.
> Secondly, Raikkonen got given the win? How did that happen?
> Fisichella was ahead of him, and they had both taken the same amount
> of pit stops, so how in the end, did Raikkonen get the result over
> Fisichella?
This is what I didn't get. I thought Fisichella had led for a lap before the red flag came out.
> Finally, Coulthard 4th? Surely if they were calculating the results
> then he should've at least got a podium finish. How didn't he?
Coulthard pitted, came out in 4th, crossed the line and then the red flag came out.
I hope that clears that up.
Anyone watching the events at Interlagos unfolding just there will probably know just what I mean when I make those noises of apparent confusion. Whoever was chosen to pick the results following the abandoning of that race has made some serious mistakes.
Firstly, how did Alonso get a podium position, or even a finish? The race was stopped BECAUSE he crashed, not before he crashed, which surely means he should't have gotten the result he did get.
Secondly, Raikkonen got given the win? How did that happen? Fisichella was ahead of him, and they had both taken the same amount of pit stops, so how in the end, did Raikkonen get the result over Fisichella?
Finally, Coulthard 4th? Surely if they were calculating the results then he should've at least got a podium finish. How didn't he? He had taken two pit stops, and he would've passed Fisichella and Raikkonen if they had taken more stops, and he also would've been ahead of Alonso, who shouldn't actually have got any points. How did Coulthard get judged as being 4th?
Well, maybe there are logic explanations for all of these points, but I fail to see them. I wasn't really paying that much attention, as I'm revising right now, and there are probably flaws in my arguments, but surely Alonso shouldn't have been judged as finishing, surely Fisichella should've finished ahead of Raikkonen, and surely Coulthard should've been in a better position than 4th if they were going by calculations.
Someone explain this crazy situation. :-)
Firstly, how did Alonso get a podium position, or even a finish? The race was stopped BECAUSE he crashed, not before he crashed, which surely means he should't have gotten the result he did get.
Secondly, Raikkonen got given the win? How did that happen? Fisichella was ahead of him, and they had both taken the same amount of pit stops, so how in the end, did Raikkonen get the result over Fisichella?
Finally, Coulthard 4th? Surely if they were calculating the results then he should've at least got a podium finish. How didn't he? He had taken two pit stops, and he would've passed Fisichella and Raikkonen if they had taken more stops, and he also would've been ahead of Alonso, who shouldn't actually have got any points. How did Coulthard get judged as being 4th?
Well, maybe there are logic explanations for all of these points, but I fail to see them. I wasn't really paying that much attention, as I'm revising right now, and there are probably flaws in my arguments, but surely Alonso shouldn't have been judged as finishing, surely Fisichella should've finished ahead of Raikkonen, and surely Coulthard should've been in a better position than 4th if they were going by calculations.
Someone explain this crazy situation. :-)