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" The government says it stands by an intelligence dossier on Iraq, after academics said whole passages had been lifted from magazine articles, complete with spelling mistakes. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell drew attention to a British dossier on Iraq during his presentation to the U.N. Security Council on Wednesday. The British dossier says it is compiled from intelligence material "and other sources". Several academics came forward on Thursday saying they recognised most of the dossier as lifted, verbatim, from articles published in the U.S. journal the Middle East Review of International Affairs and in Jane's Intelligence Review. In some cases the dossier included punctuation and spelling mistakes copied from the original articles. "
Article from rueters...
Apparantly they have copied pages from the net from a PHD students thesis and published them in an intelligence document which was part of Powell's presentation to the UN on Weds.
We are supposed to believe that these guys know what they are doing and are suppose to trust them implicitly ?
Even Belldanady must see the irony here.
Just cause my **** - any excuse more like..
Article from rueters...
Apparantly they have copied pages from the net from a PHD students thesis and published them in an intelligence document which was part of Powell's presentation to the UN on Weds.
We are supposed to believe that these guys know what they are doing and are suppose to trust them implicitly ?
Even Belldanady must see the irony here.
Just cause my **** - any excuse more like..
Here it is on MSN
" NO 10 ADMITS MISTAKE
Number 10 has said it made a mistake in failing to mention that a large part of its dossier on Iraq was copied from US student's outdated thesis.
The dossier was designed to help win over sceptics by outlining Iraq's alleged efforts to hide its weapons of mass destruction.
It said UN weapons inspectors were outnumbered 200 to one by Iraqi agents.
It also claimed to provide "up-to-date details" of Iraq's security organisations.
US Secretary of State Colin Powell even recommended it to the world in his speech to the UN on Wednesday, calling it a "fine paper".
But much of the dossier was lifted from a postgraduate's study on the build-up to the 1991 Gulf War - not the current situation.
Former Labour minister Glenda Jackson has accused the Government of lying about the dossier, which it originally claimed had been gleaned from recent intelligence sources.
Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman Menzies Campbell said: "This is the intelligence equivalent of being caught stealing the spoons.
Dr Rangwala, a lecturer in politics, told Channel 4 News: "The British Government's dossier is 19 pages long and most of pages 6 to 16 are copied directly from that document word for word."
He said it also contained the same "grammatical errors and typographical mistakes".
A Downing Street spokesman said: "The report was a pull-together of a variety of sources.
"In retrospect, we should, to clear up any confusion, have acknowledged which bits came from public sources and which bits came from other sources.
"The overall objective was to give as full a picture as we could, not only of the Iraqi regime, but also the deliberate policy of deception, without in any way compromising the intelligence sources on which it was based."
""
So 10 pages out of the total 19 pages in the report are taken from a thesis written before the Gulf war 12 years ago ?
Great intelligence that we are using as a basis to invade Iraq again...
" NO 10 ADMITS MISTAKE
Number 10 has said it made a mistake in failing to mention that a large part of its dossier on Iraq was copied from US student's outdated thesis.
The dossier was designed to help win over sceptics by outlining Iraq's alleged efforts to hide its weapons of mass destruction.
It said UN weapons inspectors were outnumbered 200 to one by Iraqi agents.
It also claimed to provide "up-to-date details" of Iraq's security organisations.
US Secretary of State Colin Powell even recommended it to the world in his speech to the UN on Wednesday, calling it a "fine paper".
But much of the dossier was lifted from a postgraduate's study on the build-up to the 1991 Gulf War - not the current situation.
Former Labour minister Glenda Jackson has accused the Government of lying about the dossier, which it originally claimed had been gleaned from recent intelligence sources.
Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman Menzies Campbell said: "This is the intelligence equivalent of being caught stealing the spoons.
Dr Rangwala, a lecturer in politics, told Channel 4 News: "The British Government's dossier is 19 pages long and most of pages 6 to 16 are copied directly from that document word for word."
He said it also contained the same "grammatical errors and typographical mistakes".
A Downing Street spokesman said: "The report was a pull-together of a variety of sources.
"In retrospect, we should, to clear up any confusion, have acknowledged which bits came from public sources and which bits came from other sources.
"The overall objective was to give as full a picture as we could, not only of the Iraqi regime, but also the deliberate policy of deception, without in any way compromising the intelligence sources on which it was based."
""
So 10 pages out of the total 19 pages in the report are taken from a thesis written before the Gulf war 12 years ago ?
Great intelligence that we are using as a basis to invade Iraq again...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2735031.stm
BBC story about this.
12 year old info?
BBC story about this.
12 year old info?
Rubbish. Show me the proof, then I'll believe it. This is another one of those things that people hear, then go around telling everyone it's gospel.
Not lies, just a very alternative version of the truth....
No they don't - the media never lie to us, please don't say they do...
It wasn't spelling errors, but instead a few minor grammatical errors. Things get blown so out of proportion.
Hey - Rueters say magazine articles it must be right !!
Though it doesn't say wether it was in FHM, Private Eye or an oscure publication with a readership of 5 geeks from pennsylvania.
I love the fact that they couldn't be bothered to use a spell check first !! Professionalism at it's best.
Though it doesn't say wether it was in FHM, Private Eye or an oscure publication with a readership of 5 geeks from pennsylvania.
I love the fact that they couldn't be bothered to use a spell check first !! Professionalism at it's best.
Magazine articles?
It was lifted from a professional report! I saw the thingy on it last night, where the author of the original report was talking about how very valid his work was in the context of the "British document".
It was lifted from a professional report! I saw the thingy on it last night, where the author of the original report was talking about how very valid his work was in the context of the "British document".
" The government says it stands by an intelligence dossier on Iraq, after academics said whole passages had been lifted from magazine articles, complete with spelling mistakes. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell drew attention to a British dossier on Iraq during his presentation to the U.N. Security Council on Wednesday. The British dossier says it is compiled from intelligence material "and other sources". Several academics came forward on Thursday saying they recognised most of the dossier as lifted, verbatim, from articles published in the U.S. journal the Middle East Review of International Affairs and in Jane's Intelligence Review. In some cases the dossier included punctuation and spelling mistakes copied from the original articles. "
Article from rueters...
Apparantly they have copied pages from the net from a PHD students thesis and published them in an intelligence document which was part of Powell's presentation to the UN on Weds.
We are supposed to believe that these guys know what they are doing and are suppose to trust them implicitly ?
Even Belldanady must see the irony here.
Just cause my **** - any excuse more like..
Article from rueters...
Apparantly they have copied pages from the net from a PHD students thesis and published them in an intelligence document which was part of Powell's presentation to the UN on Weds.
We are supposed to believe that these guys know what they are doing and are suppose to trust them implicitly ?
Even Belldanady must see the irony here.
Just cause my **** - any excuse more like..