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I was just watching the bbc news and they had a small feature on 'spoof mp3s' turning up on peer to peer services like kazza.
These spoof mp3s are the song all chopped up so as to be unlistenable, thus detering people on 56k lines from downloading these tracks.
It was speculated that people inside the music industry might be making these files so as to protect the decreasing sales of singles and albums, which is also the trend in the US where the music industry there has been suffering poor sales.
The report said that music industry insiders asy it isn't them sending these 'spoof' mp3s into the system but may be people wishing to distibute their viruses.
I have an idea as to why sales may be falling.
true the prolifferation of music sharing services has put a dent in sales, but I feel that the industry is going through another cycle as it has done many times before.
Girlband arrives, becomes popular then many clones arrive and then sales drop, boyband arrives becomes popular clones arrive sales drop........
It happened back in the 70's with the disco sucks movement I suspect sales dropped back then when people had become tired of the music that was around.
And like the disco sucks movement of then, maybe the music buyers out there have become sick and tired of the 'poular' music in the charts today.
any thoughts on the 'spoof mp3s', peer to peer services and the drop in sales of music are welcome.
These spoof mp3s are the song all chopped up so as to be unlistenable, thus detering people on 56k lines from downloading these tracks.
It was speculated that people inside the music industry might be making these files so as to protect the decreasing sales of singles and albums, which is also the trend in the US where the music industry there has been suffering poor sales.
The report said that music industry insiders asy it isn't them sending these 'spoof' mp3s into the system but may be people wishing to distibute their viruses.
I have an idea as to why sales may be falling.
true the prolifferation of music sharing services has put a dent in sales, but I feel that the industry is going through another cycle as it has done many times before.
Girlband arrives, becomes popular then many clones arrive and then sales drop, boyband arrives becomes popular clones arrive sales drop........
It happened back in the 70's with the disco sucks movement I suspect sales dropped back then when people had become tired of the music that was around.
And like the disco sucks movement of then, maybe the music buyers out there have become sick and tired of the 'poular' music in the charts today.
any thoughts on the 'spoof mp3s', peer to peer services and the drop in sales of music are welcome.
I download whole albums.
If I like them enough, I buy the album. If it's average, then I don't. This way I only pay for music that I like.
Makes sense to me.
If I like them enough, I buy the album. If it's average, then I don't. This way I only pay for music that I like.
Makes sense to me.
The point about people downloading music they wouldn't buy anyway is a very good point. If I hear a song I like I may download it, but the fact is I'm not going to pay for an album when I've heard only one song. Or it might just be a band I'm not that keen on, but I like that particular song. Why should I pay full price for the enjoyment of one song...?
The problem of CD-Rs is real, and probably is costing the industry money. But the fact is that people are also discovering much more new music than before through the internet. And usually the music they discover will be more obscure than the stuff on Top of the Pops, because to be honest just about everyone who cares knows about that anyway. The crucial thing is that at the moment a generation is being raised who don't 'have' to buy their music. The problem could get a lot worse, but to be honest, I think most people who download music will actually pay for CDs if they like an artist enough.
And so many artists themselves encourage the use of MP3s and free music on the internet that however the label bosses feel they won't be able to stop it. Green Day actually allowed people to download their entire last album on their website before it even came out. And they released quite a few singles off the album that went into the charts...
The problem of CD-Rs is real, and probably is costing the industry money. But the fact is that people are also discovering much more new music than before through the internet. And usually the music they discover will be more obscure than the stuff on Top of the Pops, because to be honest just about everyone who cares knows about that anyway. The crucial thing is that at the moment a generation is being raised who don't 'have' to buy their music. The problem could get a lot worse, but to be honest, I think most people who download music will actually pay for CDs if they like an artist enough.
And so many artists themselves encourage the use of MP3s and free music on the internet that however the label bosses feel they won't be able to stop it. Green Day actually allowed people to download their entire last album on their website before it even came out. And they released quite a few singles off the album that went into the charts...
I just like *owning* the music, rather than having a bunch of mp3s on a hard drive. But I also like listening to music before I buy. Independent record shops always have turntables on which you can listen to anything you're thinking of buying. One of my favourite websites to buy music from is tunes.co.uk because they have real audio streams of almost everything that they sell. I just see mp3s as an extension of that.
Plus you can get stuff that is unavailable anywhere else, like dj sets, acoustic sessions or whatever.
Plus you can get stuff that is unavailable anywhere else, like dj sets, acoustic sessions or whatever.
I think there are a lot of important *facts missed out. We get one side of the story a lot of the time.
There are a lot of people who download mp3's that they would never have bought anyway. There are also lots who download afew songs then go buy the album.
It is those who download and then sell it on who probably do the most damage. But questions should be asked about where all the money from album sales go.
Its just the way things are today. Everything in on the internet, you just need to know where to look for it. Music, movies, software all can be found and downloaded ilegaly. Sure they could make CD's that don't play on PC's but there are plenty ways round that from plugging your hi-fi into your sound card to recording it and uploading it to your PC.
The DVD bonus disks that are out at the moment seem like a small solution to it, but probably wont last long.
Maybe it is time for a change in the music industry?
There are a lot of people who download mp3's that they would never have bought anyway. There are also lots who download afew songs then go buy the album.
It is those who download and then sell it on who probably do the most damage. But questions should be asked about where all the money from album sales go.
Its just the way things are today. Everything in on the internet, you just need to know where to look for it. Music, movies, software all can be found and downloaded ilegaly. Sure they could make CD's that don't play on PC's but there are plenty ways round that from plugging your hi-fi into your sound card to recording it and uploading it to your PC.
The DVD bonus disks that are out at the moment seem like a small solution to it, but probably wont last long.
Maybe it is time for a change in the music industry?
It's a major problem, in America because people do download entire albums and not buy them any more...
Someone in my college has downloaded nearly 1200 MP3s of almost every band/group possible!
They've just downloaded entire albums...
Reminds me of last night, some kid admitted on Capital FM that he downloads films from the internet and sells them to his friends at school!
Someone in my college has downloaded nearly 1200 MP3s of almost every band/group possible!
They've just downloaded entire albums...
Reminds me of last night, some kid admitted on Capital FM that he downloads films from the internet and sells them to his friends at school!
I think certain people tagged on the bit about viruses to the report in order to scare the ill-informed into not downloading mp3s.
anyway I also think mp3s are a good way of advertising music, ASH have incomplete mp3s of their music on their site so you can listen and decide if you like their music.... then I went out and bought their greatest hits album.
Why should the only music I hear and want to buy be limited to what radiostations have on their playlists,when I can download the song and maybe a couple of tracks from the album to see if I like them, if I don't I won't buy it and delete the songs.
(by the way I don't use kazza or bearshare, because they run on servers I can't access from my uni connection)
anyway I also think mp3s are a good way of advertising music, ASH have incomplete mp3s of their music on their site so you can listen and decide if you like their music.... then I went out and bought their greatest hits album.
Why should the only music I hear and want to buy be limited to what radiostations have on their playlists,when I can download the song and maybe a couple of tracks from the album to see if I like them, if I don't I won't buy it and delete the songs.
(by the way I don't use kazza or bearshare, because they run on servers I can't access from my uni connection)
Kazzaalite 2 has an 'integrity' column so it's pretty easy to weed out fake mp3s now, and rate any that slip through. That news report was pretty pathetic: 'a website called kazzaa' and 'you might get a virus'. Only a complete eejit could get a virus while trying to download an mp3.
And anyway it's all a load of rubbish: I buy more records now than ever before, because mp3s are a great form of advertising.
And anyway it's all a load of rubbish: I buy more records now than ever before, because mp3s are a great form of advertising.
People will get around these spoofs by just labelling the files that arent spoofs. There are so many music files that you will be able to find one that isnt a spoof
I was just watching the bbc news and they had a small feature on 'spoof mp3s' turning up on peer to peer services like kazza.
These spoof mp3s are the song all chopped up so as to be unlistenable, thus detering people on 56k lines from downloading these tracks.
It was speculated that people inside the music industry might be making these files so as to protect the decreasing sales of singles and albums, which is also the trend in the US where the music industry there has been suffering poor sales.
The report said that music industry insiders asy it isn't them sending these 'spoof' mp3s into the system but may be people wishing to distibute their viruses.
I have an idea as to why sales may be falling.
true the prolifferation of music sharing services has put a dent in sales, but I feel that the industry is going through another cycle as it has done many times before.
Girlband arrives, becomes popular then many clones arrive and then sales drop, boyband arrives becomes popular clones arrive sales drop........
It happened back in the 70's with the disco sucks movement I suspect sales dropped back then when people had become tired of the music that was around.
And like the disco sucks movement of then, maybe the music buyers out there have become sick and tired of the 'poular' music in the charts today.
any thoughts on the 'spoof mp3s', peer to peer services and the drop in sales of music are welcome.
These spoof mp3s are the song all chopped up so as to be unlistenable, thus detering people on 56k lines from downloading these tracks.
It was speculated that people inside the music industry might be making these files so as to protect the decreasing sales of singles and albums, which is also the trend in the US where the music industry there has been suffering poor sales.
The report said that music industry insiders asy it isn't them sending these 'spoof' mp3s into the system but may be people wishing to distibute their viruses.
I have an idea as to why sales may be falling.
true the prolifferation of music sharing services has put a dent in sales, but I feel that the industry is going through another cycle as it has done many times before.
Girlband arrives, becomes popular then many clones arrive and then sales drop, boyband arrives becomes popular clones arrive sales drop........
It happened back in the 70's with the disco sucks movement I suspect sales dropped back then when people had become tired of the music that was around.
And like the disco sucks movement of then, maybe the music buyers out there have become sick and tired of the 'poular' music in the charts today.
any thoughts on the 'spoof mp3s', peer to peer services and the drop in sales of music are welcome.