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I was just thinking about recoding my personal website (currently a mix of W3 validated XHTML and PHP) so that it uses XML and XSL templates. (i know, i have too much time on my hands, but i kind of like the idea of keeping stylesheets and data seperate)
I'm just wondering what the XSL equivelant of a tag is?
To use PHP tags the file needs to have a PHP extension doesnt it? Whereas XSLT uses files with XML and XSL entensions?
Is it possible to combine the two? Or will i need to use IFRAMES and called them shtml or something perhaps?
Basically my pages are made up of smaller files so that I can keep common headers, menus and footers etc external to the page-specific data, and I currently just use PHP to 'INCLUDE' them to make one page.
Tyla, I know you were working with XML - any ideas?
clear as mud?
I'm just wondering what the XSL equivelant of a tag is?
To use PHP tags the file needs to have a PHP extension doesnt it? Whereas XSLT uses files with XML and XSL entensions?
Is it possible to combine the two? Or will i need to use IFRAMES and called them shtml or something perhaps?
Basically my pages are made up of smaller files so that I can keep common headers, menus and footers etc external to the page-specific data, and I currently just use PHP to 'INCLUDE' them to make one page.
Tyla, I know you were working with XML - any ideas?
clear as mud?
Ah! AJG... if you email me tomorrow, I'll send you a list of titles. Makes more sense as a)I'll remember (have the memory of a fish come wednesday) and b)As they're in the office, I can send you the list of titles.
email: alan[.]tyla@oxon[.]blackwellpublishing[.]com
Obviously remove the []'s
email: alan[.]tyla@oxon[.]blackwellpublishing[.]com
Obviously remove the []'s
ajg wrote:
> Tyla on the other hand...
> This course youre doing; does it recommend a decent teach-yourself
> XML/XSL book? One with lots of examples and nice pictures would be
> good. :) Ive coded XML before but only in the very basic form. Im sure
> its capable of more.
>
> cheers mate
XML is pretty basic, it's just structured data. There isn't much else it does**. The real fun is in XSLT/XSL/X-FO. These are the "power" tools of XML and the ones you should really be looking into. Creating a data structure in XML is the easy bit, it's transforming it into different things "on the fly" that's the real fun!
**If you want to go total hardcore, start looking in to XML DTD's too!
As for books... I will let you know, I have some really good ones at the office, but cant, for the life of me, remember what the titles are!
> Tyla on the other hand...
> This course youre doing; does it recommend a decent teach-yourself
> XML/XSL book? One with lots of examples and nice pictures would be
> good. :) Ive coded XML before but only in the very basic form. Im sure
> its capable of more.
>
> cheers mate
XML is pretty basic, it's just structured data. There isn't much else it does**. The real fun is in XSLT/XSL/X-FO. These are the "power" tools of XML and the ones you should really be looking into. Creating a data structure in XML is the easy bit, it's transforming it into different things "on the fly" that's the real fun!
**If you want to go total hardcore, start looking in to XML DTD's too!
As for books... I will let you know, I have some really good ones at the office, but cant, for the life of me, remember what the titles are!
akxil wrote:
> You should just keep using PHP...
> It basically does everything you really need to do anyway.
Akxil, thanks for your post but it was neither what i asked or constructive. If I wanted to keep using PHP i wouldnt have asked the question. It doesnt do everything I need.
Its a good job everyone didnt reply to tell me they dont know or we'd be here all day.
Tyla on the other hand...
This course youre doing; does it recommend a decent teach-yourself XML/XSL book? One with lots of examples and nice pictures would be good. :) Ive coded XML before but only in the very basic form. Im sure its capable of more.
cheers mate
> You should just keep using PHP...
> It basically does everything you really need to do anyway.
Akxil, thanks for your post but it was neither what i asked or constructive. If I wanted to keep using PHP i wouldnt have asked the question. It doesnt do everything I need.
Its a good job everyone didnt reply to tell me they dont know or we'd be here all day.
Tyla on the other hand...
This course youre doing; does it recommend a decent teach-yourself XML/XSL book? One with lots of examples and nice pictures would be good. :) Ive coded XML before but only in the very basic form. Im sure its capable of more.
cheers mate
ajg wrote:
> Tyla, I know you were working with XML - any ideas?
>
> clear as mud?
OK... here's my understanding, though this should be corrected at he end of the week after I have completed my extensive XML/XSLT training....
XML - Structured Data - Text only
XSL - consists of XSLT(transformation language),
XPath(Expression Language) and XSL-FO(Formatting)
These combined with XML give you your final out put of whatever (PDF, DOC, xHTML etc)
Now all I could remeber was this :
Element:
attributes: href
Standard excerpt:
The xsl:include element is only allowed as a top-level element. The inclusion works at the XML tree level. The resource located by the href attribute value is parsed as an XML document, and the children of the xsl:stylesheet element in this document replace the xsl:include element in the including document. The fact that template rules or definitions are included does not affect the way they are processed. It is an error if a stylesheet directly or indirectly includes itself.
Though I have a suspicion that it doesn't do the same thing.
> Tyla, I know you were working with XML - any ideas?
>
> clear as mud?
OK... here's my understanding, though this should be corrected at he end of the week after I have completed my extensive XML/XSLT training....
XML - Structured Data - Text only
XSL - consists of XSLT(transformation language),
XPath(Expression Language) and XSL-FO(Formatting)
These combined with XML give you your final out put of whatever (PDF, DOC, xHTML etc)
Now all I could remeber was this :
Element:
attributes: href
Standard excerpt:
The xsl:include element is only allowed as a top-level element. The inclusion works at the XML tree level. The resource located by the href attribute value is parsed as an XML document, and the children of the xsl:stylesheet element in this document replace the xsl:include element in the including document. The fact that template rules or definitions are included does not affect the way they are processed. It is an error if a stylesheet directly or indirectly includes itself.
Though I have a suspicion that it doesn't do the same thing.
I was just thinking about recoding my personal website (currently a mix of W3 validated XHTML and PHP) so that it uses XML and XSL templates. (i know, i have too much time on my hands, but i kind of like the idea of keeping stylesheets and data seperate)
I'm just wondering what the XSL equivelant of a tag is?
To use PHP tags the file needs to have a PHP extension doesnt it? Whereas XSLT uses files with XML and XSL entensions?
Is it possible to combine the two? Or will i need to use IFRAMES and called them shtml or something perhaps?
Basically my pages are made up of smaller files so that I can keep common headers, menus and footers etc external to the page-specific data, and I currently just use PHP to 'INCLUDE' them to make one page.
Tyla, I know you were working with XML - any ideas?
clear as mud?
I'm just wondering what the XSL equivelant of a tag is?
To use PHP tags the file needs to have a PHP extension doesnt it? Whereas XSLT uses files with XML and XSL entensions?
Is it possible to combine the two? Or will i need to use IFRAMES and called them shtml or something perhaps?
Basically my pages are made up of smaller files so that I can keep common headers, menus and footers etc external to the page-specific data, and I currently just use PHP to 'INCLUDE' them to make one page.
Tyla, I know you were working with XML - any ideas?
clear as mud?