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Who should ask us what?? Well developers should ask us what we want.
I think developers miss out on one main thing which could make most games out there more appealing and generally better than they already are.
The idea is simple. Get more feedback on games from the gamers.
At the moment most information developers get from games is from sales (I could be wrong), they know what does well and what doesn't. With all the new ideas they have it is really the only way of making games that seem similar to others different. For example why make another GTA vice city type game unless you can have different missions, weapons, storyline etc.
For every game that comes out there will always be a way to make it better, this all depends on the gamer as we all have different tastes. With an industry so big obviously it is the majority who would rule, upset the large amount of gamers and the game isn't going to sell well. So if you were making a football game you would be mad to turn down using premiership teams and replacing them with Conference teams as it wouldn't sell as well. These are easy decisions for the developers. Use ideas that will make the game sell, combined with great visuals, sound and gameplay the game could be huge. Apart from one thing, the developers can't possibly come up with every idea that could make the game great, but maybe asking the millions who play games what kind of things they would like to see would increase the ideas and options the developers have and ultimately increase what us gamers get to do and see in games.
Every developer/publisher of all the big selling and even the smaller selling games have a website so at this moment in time it is easy to set up a way of allowing gamers to get their points across. Internet access is so common in the developed world that in most houses, schools, libraries etc you will find a way of getting on-line. In the future consoles will go on-line and there will be possibilities to directly send information and views directly to the developer perhaps from in game menus etc. So there is no point saying the technology for this isn't already available or could be introduced in the near future. Hey, it would be even possible to use the snail mail approach and send mail through the post with your ideas to the developers.
This kind of idea would benefit both developers and gamers. As the standard of games would rise making more people buy the game, this means the developer makes more money and us gamers get higher quality games. Can't go wrong there can we?
Being honest I am surprised that this hasn't been around for the past few years. To me it just seems like the best way of developers improving, especially with the number of sequels we see again and again being released.
I know that in some cases, very few, developers get views from beta testers but this is usually just concerning bugs in the code and areas where faults occur. Not on where it could be improved or replaced with something better.
My first thought of this idea was after playing Americas Army (The free downloadable game that Mr Happy suggested to us). The developers worked closely to the american army and this can be seen in the game as it closly ressembles the army way of things from the training, weapons, missions etc.
I also read a Playstation 2 magazine which ran a competition - Give us the things you want to see in GTA-Vice city and we will send them to the developers.
Recently they printed the best, and as promised sent them off and it seems a few of them will be included in the game. Sadly I doubt the people with the ideas will be given a mention but in the future they could be.
I also noticed that a great number of the new ideas we will see in GTA: Vice city have infact came from gamers, Rockstar decided to take notice of what gamers wanted by reading there ideas on webpages and from letters in the post, obviously all the ideas weren't included as some would be pants, some to hard to include and some just too evil even for GTA games.
But it does show that to make great games you have to know what gamers want - surely there is no better way than getting it straight from the horses mouth - or even the gamers.
I for one would like to see this. Obviously like most on-line things people will abuse their rights, send SPAM and crap ideas but from those who do take it serious we could see some excellent ideas being introduced to our favourite genres and games. The only problem I see for the developer is someone has to look through the ideas and decide which are good, which are possible to include (ie can it be coded into the game) and which are not good enough or not right for the game. Also adding more will mean it takes longer to produce and a longer wait for the gamers, but I think it is better to wait a little longer for a better game.
Following on from this maybe we could even see developers using peoples own game ideas and turning these into games (Obviously making their own ideas and suggestions to the original idea along the way) which would be a good thing for all those out there who have the dreams and talent to write the ideas for games but just not having someone willing to take time and effort looking through the idea and deciding what to do with it.
There are so many games out there, all fall into various genres. Many of them are sequels or copies of previous ideas, this could be the next best way of getting unique ideas, a good thing that I am sure many gamers would like to see.
Maybe we could see developers using names or images of the people who submitt the best ideas they use in their games, as a kind of reward, or offer them merchandise or a copy of the game etc just to show they appreciate the idea you suggested. Would be great to say to your mates, see that bloke who just got balsted to bits or that driver who is getting lapped - yeah, well thats me. Cool huh. To me this is an idea we need to see more developers making use of.
Lets just hope the other decent developers consider something like this in the not to distant future and actually pay attention to what the gamers want. After all thats who all these games are for is it not? So go on discuss your views on this, good idea, one you would use?
I think developers miss out on one main thing which could make most games out there more appealing and generally better than they already are.
The idea is simple. Get more feedback on games from the gamers.
At the moment most information developers get from games is from sales (I could be wrong), they know what does well and what doesn't. With all the new ideas they have it is really the only way of making games that seem similar to others different. For example why make another GTA vice city type game unless you can have different missions, weapons, storyline etc.
For every game that comes out there will always be a way to make it better, this all depends on the gamer as we all have different tastes. With an industry so big obviously it is the majority who would rule, upset the large amount of gamers and the game isn't going to sell well. So if you were making a football game you would be mad to turn down using premiership teams and replacing them with Conference teams as it wouldn't sell as well. These are easy decisions for the developers. Use ideas that will make the game sell, combined with great visuals, sound and gameplay the game could be huge. Apart from one thing, the developers can't possibly come up with every idea that could make the game great, but maybe asking the millions who play games what kind of things they would like to see would increase the ideas and options the developers have and ultimately increase what us gamers get to do and see in games.
Every developer/publisher of all the big selling and even the smaller selling games have a website so at this moment in time it is easy to set up a way of allowing gamers to get their points across. Internet access is so common in the developed world that in most houses, schools, libraries etc you will find a way of getting on-line. In the future consoles will go on-line and there will be possibilities to directly send information and views directly to the developer perhaps from in game menus etc. So there is no point saying the technology for this isn't already available or could be introduced in the near future. Hey, it would be even possible to use the snail mail approach and send mail through the post with your ideas to the developers.
This kind of idea would benefit both developers and gamers. As the standard of games would rise making more people buy the game, this means the developer makes more money and us gamers get higher quality games. Can't go wrong there can we?
Being honest I am surprised that this hasn't been around for the past few years. To me it just seems like the best way of developers improving, especially with the number of sequels we see again and again being released.
I know that in some cases, very few, developers get views from beta testers but this is usually just concerning bugs in the code and areas where faults occur. Not on where it could be improved or replaced with something better.
My first thought of this idea was after playing Americas Army (The free downloadable game that Mr Happy suggested to us). The developers worked closely to the american army and this can be seen in the game as it closly ressembles the army way of things from the training, weapons, missions etc.
I also read a Playstation 2 magazine which ran a competition - Give us the things you want to see in GTA-Vice city and we will send them to the developers.
Recently they printed the best, and as promised sent them off and it seems a few of them will be included in the game. Sadly I doubt the people with the ideas will be given a mention but in the future they could be.
I also noticed that a great number of the new ideas we will see in GTA: Vice city have infact came from gamers, Rockstar decided to take notice of what gamers wanted by reading there ideas on webpages and from letters in the post, obviously all the ideas weren't included as some would be pants, some to hard to include and some just too evil even for GTA games.
But it does show that to make great games you have to know what gamers want - surely there is no better way than getting it straight from the horses mouth - or even the gamers.
I for one would like to see this. Obviously like most on-line things people will abuse their rights, send SPAM and crap ideas but from those who do take it serious we could see some excellent ideas being introduced to our favourite genres and games. The only problem I see for the developer is someone has to look through the ideas and decide which are good, which are possible to include (ie can it be coded into the game) and which are not good enough or not right for the game. Also adding more will mean it takes longer to produce and a longer wait for the gamers, but I think it is better to wait a little longer for a better game.
Following on from this maybe we could even see developers using peoples own game ideas and turning these into games (Obviously making their own ideas and suggestions to the original idea along the way) which would be a good thing for all those out there who have the dreams and talent to write the ideas for games but just not having someone willing to take time and effort looking through the idea and deciding what to do with it.
There are so many games out there, all fall into various genres. Many of them are sequels or copies of previous ideas, this could be the next best way of getting unique ideas, a good thing that I am sure many gamers would like to see.
Maybe we could see developers using names or images of the people who submitt the best ideas they use in their games, as a kind of reward, or offer them merchandise or a copy of the game etc just to show they appreciate the idea you suggested. Would be great to say to your mates, see that bloke who just got balsted to bits or that driver who is getting lapped - yeah, well thats me. Cool huh. To me this is an idea we need to see more developers making use of.
Lets just hope the other decent developers consider something like this in the not to distant future and actually pay attention to what the gamers want. After all thats who all these games are for is it not? So go on discuss your views on this, good idea, one you would use?
well, i'm not sure of a proper reply for THIS topic, but I do remember sending in a gameplay idea to somewhere which would be excellent.
Real damage to your character, eg if your guy gets his right arm shot and (presuming he's right handed) finds it difficult to use his left hand to fire, or he can't use big weapons like a rocket launcher which require 2 arms. Also, a hit to the head with a baseball bat would give messed up controls making it difficult to know where you are going, just like if you were hooked in the face ibn real life (probably, everybody loves me). I think I might turn this into a topic, I'll get started right away.
Real damage to your character, eg if your guy gets his right arm shot and (presuming he's right handed) finds it difficult to use his left hand to fire, or he can't use big weapons like a rocket launcher which require 2 arms. Also, a hit to the head with a baseball bat would give messed up controls making it difficult to know where you are going, just like if you were hooked in the face ibn real life (probably, everybody loves me). I think I might turn this into a topic, I'll get started right away.
Who should ask us what?? Well developers should ask us what we want.
I think developers miss out on one main thing which could make most games out there more appealing and generally better than they already are.
The idea is simple. Get more feedback on games from the gamers.
At the moment most information developers get from games is from sales (I could be wrong), they know what does well and what doesn't. With all the new ideas they have it is really the only way of making games that seem similar to others different. For example why make another GTA vice city type game unless you can have different missions, weapons, storyline etc.
For every game that comes out there will always be a way to make it better, this all depends on the gamer as we all have different tastes. With an industry so big obviously it is the majority who would rule, upset the large amount of gamers and the game isn't going to sell well. So if you were making a football game you would be mad to turn down using premiership teams and replacing them with Conference teams as it wouldn't sell as well. These are easy decisions for the developers. Use ideas that will make the game sell, combined with great visuals, sound and gameplay the game could be huge. Apart from one thing, the developers can't possibly come up with every idea that could make the game great, but maybe asking the millions who play games what kind of things they would like to see would increase the ideas and options the developers have and ultimately increase what us gamers get to do and see in games.
Every developer/publisher of all the big selling and even the smaller selling games have a website so at this moment in time it is easy to set up a way of allowing gamers to get their points across. Internet access is so common in the developed world that in most houses, schools, libraries etc you will find a way of getting on-line. In the future consoles will go on-line and there will be possibilities to directly send information and views directly to the developer perhaps from in game menus etc. So there is no point saying the technology for this isn't already available or could be introduced in the near future. Hey, it would be even possible to use the snail mail approach and send mail through the post with your ideas to the developers.
This kind of idea would benefit both developers and gamers. As the standard of games would rise making more people buy the game, this means the developer makes more money and us gamers get higher quality games. Can't go wrong there can we?
Being honest I am surprised that this hasn't been around for the past few years. To me it just seems like the best way of developers improving, especially with the number of sequels we see again and again being released.
I know that in some cases, very few, developers get views from beta testers but this is usually just concerning bugs in the code and areas where faults occur. Not on where it could be improved or replaced with something better.
My first thought of this idea was after playing Americas Army (The free downloadable game that Mr Happy suggested to us). The developers worked closely to the american army and this can be seen in the game as it closly ressembles the army way of things from the training, weapons, missions etc.
I also read a Playstation 2 magazine which ran a competition - Give us the things you want to see in GTA-Vice city and we will send them to the developers.
Recently they printed the best, and as promised sent them off and it seems a few of them will be included in the game. Sadly I doubt the people with the ideas will be given a mention but in the future they could be.
I also noticed that a great number of the new ideas we will see in GTA: Vice city have infact came from gamers, Rockstar decided to take notice of what gamers wanted by reading there ideas on webpages and from letters in the post, obviously all the ideas weren't included as some would be pants, some to hard to include and some just too evil even for GTA games.
But it does show that to make great games you have to know what gamers want - surely there is no better way than getting it straight from the horses mouth - or even the gamers.
I for one would like to see this. Obviously like most on-line things people will abuse their rights, send SPAM and crap ideas but from those who do take it serious we could see some excellent ideas being introduced to our favourite genres and games. The only problem I see for the developer is someone has to look through the ideas and decide which are good, which are possible to include (ie can it be coded into the game) and which are not good enough or not right for the game. Also adding more will mean it takes longer to produce and a longer wait for the gamers, but I think it is better to wait a little longer for a better game.
Following on from this maybe we could even see developers using peoples own game ideas and turning these into games (Obviously making their own ideas and suggestions to the original idea along the way) which would be a good thing for all those out there who have the dreams and talent to write the ideas for games but just not having someone willing to take time and effort looking through the idea and deciding what to do with it.
There are so many games out there, all fall into various genres. Many of them are sequels or copies of previous ideas, this could be the next best way of getting unique ideas, a good thing that I am sure many gamers would like to see.
Maybe we could see developers using names or images of the people who submitt the best ideas they use in their games, as a kind of reward, or offer them merchandise or a copy of the game etc just to show they appreciate the idea you suggested. Would be great to say to your mates, see that bloke who just got balsted to bits or that driver who is getting lapped - yeah, well thats me. Cool huh. To me this is an idea we need to see more developers making use of.
Lets just hope the other decent developers consider something like this in the not to distant future and actually pay attention to what the gamers want. After all thats who all these games are for is it not? So go on discuss your views on this, good idea, one you would use?
I think developers miss out on one main thing which could make most games out there more appealing and generally better than they already are.
The idea is simple. Get more feedback on games from the gamers.
At the moment most information developers get from games is from sales (I could be wrong), they know what does well and what doesn't. With all the new ideas they have it is really the only way of making games that seem similar to others different. For example why make another GTA vice city type game unless you can have different missions, weapons, storyline etc.
For every game that comes out there will always be a way to make it better, this all depends on the gamer as we all have different tastes. With an industry so big obviously it is the majority who would rule, upset the large amount of gamers and the game isn't going to sell well. So if you were making a football game you would be mad to turn down using premiership teams and replacing them with Conference teams as it wouldn't sell as well. These are easy decisions for the developers. Use ideas that will make the game sell, combined with great visuals, sound and gameplay the game could be huge. Apart from one thing, the developers can't possibly come up with every idea that could make the game great, but maybe asking the millions who play games what kind of things they would like to see would increase the ideas and options the developers have and ultimately increase what us gamers get to do and see in games.
Every developer/publisher of all the big selling and even the smaller selling games have a website so at this moment in time it is easy to set up a way of allowing gamers to get their points across. Internet access is so common in the developed world that in most houses, schools, libraries etc you will find a way of getting on-line. In the future consoles will go on-line and there will be possibilities to directly send information and views directly to the developer perhaps from in game menus etc. So there is no point saying the technology for this isn't already available or could be introduced in the near future. Hey, it would be even possible to use the snail mail approach and send mail through the post with your ideas to the developers.
This kind of idea would benefit both developers and gamers. As the standard of games would rise making more people buy the game, this means the developer makes more money and us gamers get higher quality games. Can't go wrong there can we?
Being honest I am surprised that this hasn't been around for the past few years. To me it just seems like the best way of developers improving, especially with the number of sequels we see again and again being released.
I know that in some cases, very few, developers get views from beta testers but this is usually just concerning bugs in the code and areas where faults occur. Not on where it could be improved or replaced with something better.
My first thought of this idea was after playing Americas Army (The free downloadable game that Mr Happy suggested to us). The developers worked closely to the american army and this can be seen in the game as it closly ressembles the army way of things from the training, weapons, missions etc.
I also read a Playstation 2 magazine which ran a competition - Give us the things you want to see in GTA-Vice city and we will send them to the developers.
Recently they printed the best, and as promised sent them off and it seems a few of them will be included in the game. Sadly I doubt the people with the ideas will be given a mention but in the future they could be.
I also noticed that a great number of the new ideas we will see in GTA: Vice city have infact came from gamers, Rockstar decided to take notice of what gamers wanted by reading there ideas on webpages and from letters in the post, obviously all the ideas weren't included as some would be pants, some to hard to include and some just too evil even for GTA games.
But it does show that to make great games you have to know what gamers want - surely there is no better way than getting it straight from the horses mouth - or even the gamers.
I for one would like to see this. Obviously like most on-line things people will abuse their rights, send SPAM and crap ideas but from those who do take it serious we could see some excellent ideas being introduced to our favourite genres and games. The only problem I see for the developer is someone has to look through the ideas and decide which are good, which are possible to include (ie can it be coded into the game) and which are not good enough or not right for the game. Also adding more will mean it takes longer to produce and a longer wait for the gamers, but I think it is better to wait a little longer for a better game.
Following on from this maybe we could even see developers using peoples own game ideas and turning these into games (Obviously making their own ideas and suggestions to the original idea along the way) which would be a good thing for all those out there who have the dreams and talent to write the ideas for games but just not having someone willing to take time and effort looking through the idea and deciding what to do with it.
There are so many games out there, all fall into various genres. Many of them are sequels or copies of previous ideas, this could be the next best way of getting unique ideas, a good thing that I am sure many gamers would like to see.
Maybe we could see developers using names or images of the people who submitt the best ideas they use in their games, as a kind of reward, or offer them merchandise or a copy of the game etc just to show they appreciate the idea you suggested. Would be great to say to your mates, see that bloke who just got balsted to bits or that driver who is getting lapped - yeah, well thats me. Cool huh. To me this is an idea we need to see more developers making use of.
Lets just hope the other decent developers consider something like this in the not to distant future and actually pay attention to what the gamers want. After all thats who all these games are for is it not? So go on discuss your views on this, good idea, one you would use?