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"England get moaned at. But it doesn't really matter"

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Thu 17/10/02 at 01:33
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Lets face it, the moaners are just moaning. The overall performance england gave was actually pretty good, its just we weren't lucky on the ight and macedonia were. In reality it was a solid performance and was quite possibly david seamans last, Football doesn't always go your way, but in reality the fact that we drew changes little, as to finish top we need to beat turkey anyway and we don't want to lose anymore games anyway. Realistically not much has changed we have just lost a bit of our pride.
Thu 17/10/02 at 02:00
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Seamen can make a mess of things, it is really a sticky situation for the team
Thu 17/10/02 at 02:00
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It's a shame that - next to Alan Smith's dismissal, no doubt - Seaman's "error" will be the main talking point of the match, and everyone will be calling for his head.

What about the other 10 players on the pitch who failed to create and take more than two scoring chances?

I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, Seaman's 'mistake' pales into insignificance when compared to the fact that our outfield players have made such incredibly hard work of dispatching two minnows in the pond of international football: 2-2 , and a very fortunate 2-1 win against Slovakia.

It's all very well to blame a 'keeper for goals that "shouldn't have gone in", but what about the numerous mistakes made every game by the other players? What about the stray passes from the defence and midfield? What about the goals missed by Owen, Heskey, Vassel and Smith that SHOULD have gone in? Any decent team would have knocked at least six past each of those two teams, rendering the three goals conceded in those games irrelevant.

But no. The blame will be laid squarely at Seaman's door, despite dire performances from every single player on the pitch in both of those games.

And we all act surprised when teams like Turkey and - God help us - USA move above us in the FIFA World Rankings?

It's no wonder there are so many foreign players in the Premiership. It pains me to say it, but even the best England has to offer are simply not good enough on an international stage. We've had team after team of failures ever since 1966. How many times do they have to embarrass us to prove it?
Thu 17/10/02 at 01:33
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Lets face it, the moaners are just moaning. The overall performance england gave was actually pretty good, its just we weren't lucky on the ight and macedonia were. In reality it was a solid performance and was quite possibly david seamans last, Football doesn't always go your way, but in reality the fact that we drew changes little, as to finish top we need to beat turkey anyway and we don't want to lose anymore games anyway. Realistically not much has changed we have just lost a bit of our pride.

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