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I know there's a lot of talk about Pro Evo 5, but, I'm looking to pick up a copy on the cheap, if that's possible.

The main reason is really as a comparison to FIFA '05.

So, does it include licensed teams and players? ... I'm never too sure

I think the cheapest place to get PES4 may be GamePlay, at around £12.99, I think...

Do a search on GamesTracker.co.uk, that's the best thing to do. :)

You could always get that MaxDrive thingy and download the Xbox option file off www.pesfan.com.

Full kits, corrected names, updated transfers, etc.

Yup, players look like who they should. Even if their name is incorrect.

And if the name is incorrect, it is usually only by a couple of characters anyway, so it's quite easy to work out who is who when editing.

So basically they're included under a different "guise", in that case, do they still have player's likeness?

All the player names are correct, just the strips and club names are not.

Ah, cheers. I thought there was some licenses.

So, what about the English sides?

No, there are.

Dutch, Italian and Spanish leagues are licensed. So that's 60 teams.

Most player names are right as well. Only in countries in Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe are player names fake.

So, basically, there are no licensed teams or players at all?

Also, it would be helpful if anyone could recall the OXM issue that the game was reviewed in.

No, its not fully liscenced. But its still about a thousand times better than any Fifa game in existance.

I know there's a lot of talk about Pro Evo 5, but, I'm looking to pick up a copy on the cheap, if that's possible.

The main reason is really as a comparison to FIFA '05.

So, does it include licensed teams and players? ... I'm never too sure