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You know the ones, they are about 12-16, carry skateboards but cannot skate, and wear Slipknot/Linkin Park/Papa Roach/etc. A lot of my mates don't like this lot, saying that they are just getting into the fashion of the music and not the music itself.
Now at work last night, this guy in a Limp Bizkit hood came in, must have been all of 16, noticed I was wearing a deftones shirt and said "Cool. Deftones!". Now, I had a chioce. I could have said "F*** off you sandy little metelar wannabe", but instead I chose "Did you see Limp at wembley last year?"
"No, missed it, but I saw them while I was in the states with my folks"
This spurned a pretty long convo, chatting about bands and stuff. He's just got a new skate deck for some stupid price, he sees loads of bands (he had seen mine!), he plays guitar, and he was generally a cool bloke.
Where am I going with this? Well.
Because there are kids are doing the metal thing as a fashion, the ones that are really into the tunes are getting labelled. This sucks. What's the point in labelling someone on the way they dress? If they wanna wear the Linkin Park stuff to look cool then let them, the band gets the promotion and we all win. If the kid likes the tunes too then thats a bonus.
Also, because the kids have got hold of a lot of bands, people who have been into the scene for a while refuse to listen to them. Fair enough with Papa Roach, as though I don't agree with an erlier post about them writing specifically for kids to make cash, I see them as a bit nieve as do others in my generation, yet the kids are getting stuff from it. But take a band like Slipknot. The first album was superb, and everyone loved it. Then the kids started wearing the hoodies and now noone wants to listen to them anymore as they arent 'underground' enough for them anymore. Complete Ballsack. Iowa is just as good as the first album, and a band should be rated on their tunes, not their music.
Not all these kids are in it for the fashion. The one last night knew his stuff, we chatted a while and I played him some bands on the car stereo which he wants to copy. Before you judge these people, give them a chance.
And let it go about Papa Roach, Linkin Park and co, because even if they are there to make cash out of kids in the same way that Brittany Spears is, then so what? THere are kids out there that come into the metal scene via these bands, and then find out about a lot of decent music. They buy the CDs, and the bands get bigger and better, they learn the guitar and form new bands that we might even buy later on in our own lives, and they prove that metal is not dying, it's allways going on, just not as publicly as other genres.
slave.
Now at work last night, this guy in a Limp Bizkit hood came in, must have been all of 16, noticed I was wearing a deftones shirt and said "Cool. Deftones!". Now, I had a chioce. I could have said "F*** off you sandy little metelar wannabe", but instead I chose "Did you see Limp at wembley last year?"
"No, missed it, but I saw them while I was in the states with my folks"
This spurned a pretty long convo, chatting about bands and stuff. He's just got a new skate deck for some stupid price, he sees loads of bands (he had seen mine!), he plays guitar, and he was generally a cool bloke.
Where am I going with this? Well.
Because there are kids are doing the metal thing as a fashion, the ones that are really into the tunes are getting labelled. This sucks. What's the point in labelling someone on the way they dress? If they wanna wear the Linkin Park stuff to look cool then let them, the band gets the promotion and we all win. If the kid likes the tunes too then thats a bonus.
Also, because the kids have got hold of a lot of bands, people who have been into the scene for a while refuse to listen to them. Fair enough with Papa Roach, as though I don't agree with an erlier post about them writing specifically for kids to make cash, I see them as a bit nieve as do others in my generation, yet the kids are getting stuff from it. But take a band like Slipknot. The first album was superb, and everyone loved it. Then the kids started wearing the hoodies and now noone wants to listen to them anymore as they arent 'underground' enough for them anymore. Complete Ballsack. Iowa is just as good as the first album, and a band should be rated on their tunes, not their music.
Not all these kids are in it for the fashion. The one last night knew his stuff, we chatted a while and I played him some bands on the car stereo which he wants to copy. Before you judge these people, give them a chance.
And let it go about Papa Roach, Linkin Park and co, because even if they are there to make cash out of kids in the same way that Brittany Spears is, then so what? THere are kids out there that come into the metal scene via these bands, and then find out about a lot of decent music. They buy the CDs, and the bands get bigger and better, they learn the guitar and form new bands that we might even buy later on in our own lives, and they prove that metal is not dying, it's allways going on, just not as publicly as other genres.
slave.
I think you are dead right! I am in a band and some times I back up my friend. Who is the guitaris**t of snuf. the little Kid I see With linkin park hoodies on (these people are around 5-12).I hated them, in my head I thought they are only in it because of the trend and mos**t of them are.There was this one who came upto me and say 'you guys are good' so I s**tarted to talk to this 12 year old.This little guy was telling me s**tuff that in never even knew about,s**tuff like Machine Head were coming and sh*t like that.Now he comes to all my bands gigs and I now I dont judge them ang more
ONIKS
ONIKS
Fair point (in the original post) but seeing as Pop music is labelled as all the same, and the people who listen to it, why should any special consideration be shown to people who like this corporate pop, oops sorry should have said "rock" ?
Yeah, I like pop music, but I stop at buying clothes advertising the bands/singers ! Talk about commercialised...... it isn't cool, it is sad.
Anyway, I can't complain, at least the kids wearing hoodies stand out a mile when we're shoplifter spotting at work.... :P
~~Belldandy~~
Yeah, I like pop music, but I stop at buying clothes advertising the bands/singers ! Talk about commercialised...... it isn't cool, it is sad.
Anyway, I can't complain, at least the kids wearing hoodies stand out a mile when we're shoplifter spotting at work.... :P
~~Belldandy~~
Monkey_With_Attitude wrote:
> Not very good considering most lyrics in nu-metal songs are more
> negative then positive.
>
> E.g Papa Roach and suicide.
Yeah but the second album had some painfully happy lyrics on. "And I will walk through green fields with the sun on my face" or something.
Not saying I don't like happy lyrics but it seems to make the tunes more jingly and happy which, although can be good, usually isn't.
Take Silverchair's latest album for example, Diorama. It's much happier than their first 3 but it isn't as good as any of them. Well, possibly Freakshow but definitely not Frogstomp or Neon Ballroom.
Anyway, just to set the records straight, I hate Papa Roach. THERE'S NO MONEY!! THERE'S NO--BANG!!!
For a great suicide song, forget Last Resort (although I don't mind it anymore) and listen to "Asleep" by The Smiths. Morrissey is so the man.
> Not very good considering most lyrics in nu-metal songs are more
> negative then positive.
>
> E.g Papa Roach and suicide.
Yeah but the second album had some painfully happy lyrics on. "And I will walk through green fields with the sun on my face" or something.
Not saying I don't like happy lyrics but it seems to make the tunes more jingly and happy which, although can be good, usually isn't.
Take Silverchair's latest album for example, Diorama. It's much happier than their first 3 but it isn't as good as any of them. Well, possibly Freakshow but definitely not Frogstomp or Neon Ballroom.
Anyway, just to set the records straight, I hate Papa Roach. THERE'S NO MONEY!! THERE'S NO--BANG!!!
For a great suicide song, forget Last Resort (although I don't mind it anymore) and listen to "Asleep" by The Smiths. Morrissey is so the man.
SHEEPY wrote:
> So I kicked him out my room and told him to come back when he had a
> taste of music.
I would have given him a dead leg or something as well. Something physical to remember the occasion by.
> So I kicked him out my room and told him to come back when he had a
> taste of music.
I would have given him a dead leg or something as well. Something physical to remember the occasion by.
8? jesus...
Not very good considering most lyrics in nu-metal songs are more negative then positive.
E.g Papa Roach and suicide.
Not very good considering most lyrics in nu-metal songs are more negative then positive.
E.g Papa Roach and suicide.
My 8 year old cousin came round last week and he was wearing a Korn hoodie
So I kind of made a few jokes about it and stuff (most to myself in my head)
This was the guy who listened to pop music about a month ago
So I asked what Korn songs he liked... he knew about two or something.
I had the Manics on (how unusal eh?) and he said " is the singer a girl? "... I looked confused and said no. He then said what are they called... I told him... who are they? they sound crap...
So I kicked him out my room and told him to come back when he had a taste of music.
It is really bad when you eight year olds with SLipknot hoodies and chains etc
Bah
So I kind of made a few jokes about it and stuff (most to myself in my head)
This was the guy who listened to pop music about a month ago
So I asked what Korn songs he liked... he knew about two or something.
I had the Manics on (how unusal eh?) and he said " is the singer a girl? "... I looked confused and said no. He then said what are they called... I told him... who are they? they sound crap...
So I kicked him out my room and told him to come back when he had a taste of music.
It is really bad when you eight year olds with SLipknot hoodies and chains etc
Bah
It works both ways. I don't dress like a metalhead and consequently my Music taste isn't taken seriously :s
'Iowa is just as good as the first album, and a band should be rated on their tunes, not their music. '
Bah?
Good post btw.
Bah?
Good post btw.
You know the ones, they are about 12-16, carry skateboards but cannot skate, and wear Slipknot/Linkin Park/Papa Roach/etc. A lot of my mates don't like this lot, saying that they are just getting into the fashion of the music and not the music itself.
Now at work last night, this guy in a Limp Bizkit hood came in, must have been all of 16, noticed I was wearing a deftones shirt and said "Cool. Deftones!". Now, I had a chioce. I could have said "F*** off you sandy little metelar wannabe", but instead I chose "Did you see Limp at wembley last year?"
"No, missed it, but I saw them while I was in the states with my folks"
This spurned a pretty long convo, chatting about bands and stuff. He's just got a new skate deck for some stupid price, he sees loads of bands (he had seen mine!), he plays guitar, and he was generally a cool bloke.
Where am I going with this? Well.
Because there are kids are doing the metal thing as a fashion, the ones that are really into the tunes are getting labelled. This sucks. What's the point in labelling someone on the way they dress? If they wanna wear the Linkin Park stuff to look cool then let them, the band gets the promotion and we all win. If the kid likes the tunes too then thats a bonus.
Also, because the kids have got hold of a lot of bands, people who have been into the scene for a while refuse to listen to them. Fair enough with Papa Roach, as though I don't agree with an erlier post about them writing specifically for kids to make cash, I see them as a bit nieve as do others in my generation, yet the kids are getting stuff from it. But take a band like Slipknot. The first album was superb, and everyone loved it. Then the kids started wearing the hoodies and now noone wants to listen to them anymore as they arent 'underground' enough for them anymore. Complete Ballsack. Iowa is just as good as the first album, and a band should be rated on their tunes, not their music.
Not all these kids are in it for the fashion. The one last night knew his stuff, we chatted a while and I played him some bands on the car stereo which he wants to copy. Before you judge these people, give them a chance.
And let it go about Papa Roach, Linkin Park and co, because even if they are there to make cash out of kids in the same way that Brittany Spears is, then so what? THere are kids out there that come into the metal scene via these bands, and then find out about a lot of decent music. They buy the CDs, and the bands get bigger and better, they learn the guitar and form new bands that we might even buy later on in our own lives, and they prove that metal is not dying, it's allways going on, just not as publicly as other genres.
slave.
Now at work last night, this guy in a Limp Bizkit hood came in, must have been all of 16, noticed I was wearing a deftones shirt and said "Cool. Deftones!". Now, I had a chioce. I could have said "F*** off you sandy little metelar wannabe", but instead I chose "Did you see Limp at wembley last year?"
"No, missed it, but I saw them while I was in the states with my folks"
This spurned a pretty long convo, chatting about bands and stuff. He's just got a new skate deck for some stupid price, he sees loads of bands (he had seen mine!), he plays guitar, and he was generally a cool bloke.
Where am I going with this? Well.
Because there are kids are doing the metal thing as a fashion, the ones that are really into the tunes are getting labelled. This sucks. What's the point in labelling someone on the way they dress? If they wanna wear the Linkin Park stuff to look cool then let them, the band gets the promotion and we all win. If the kid likes the tunes too then thats a bonus.
Also, because the kids have got hold of a lot of bands, people who have been into the scene for a while refuse to listen to them. Fair enough with Papa Roach, as though I don't agree with an erlier post about them writing specifically for kids to make cash, I see them as a bit nieve as do others in my generation, yet the kids are getting stuff from it. But take a band like Slipknot. The first album was superb, and everyone loved it. Then the kids started wearing the hoodies and now noone wants to listen to them anymore as they arent 'underground' enough for them anymore. Complete Ballsack. Iowa is just as good as the first album, and a band should be rated on their tunes, not their music.
Not all these kids are in it for the fashion. The one last night knew his stuff, we chatted a while and I played him some bands on the car stereo which he wants to copy. Before you judge these people, give them a chance.
And let it go about Papa Roach, Linkin Park and co, because even if they are there to make cash out of kids in the same way that Brittany Spears is, then so what? THere are kids out there that come into the metal scene via these bands, and then find out about a lot of decent music. They buy the CDs, and the bands get bigger and better, they learn the guitar and form new bands that we might even buy later on in our own lives, and they prove that metal is not dying, it's allways going on, just not as publicly as other genres.
slave.