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Well, America's gone and taken the idol TV concept to it's completely illogical conclusion and started the mother of all idol programs "American Candidate". The shows premise is to get 100 people who say "ooh if I was president I would..." and whittle them down by audience vote elimination. Then coming into the final straight, if the ultiate winner is popular enough he will be allowed to run for President.
Scary? Well, what's even worse is that Rupert Murdoch is the string-puller in chief behind Fox, who are responsible for this democratic ahorrition. So basically you're looking at a Murdoch-backed candidate having a real shot at the White House.
Well, there'd be safeguards wouldn't there? No actually, it's very easy to rig an Idol show. Firstly you get to edit the highlights, suppose a guy you don't like has 100 good policies and says something a little bit anti-homosexual, then you can play that little bit a lot and shaft him, no pun intended. Equally, you get to control the phone lines and there was much speculation that Will Young beat Gggggareth purely because he was given twice as many phone-lines, so while garth fans knawed at the phone wires waiting on hold, Will fans didn't have any wait at all. As such, if Murdoch wanted to pick a candidate it wouldn't be too difficult.
This is assuming, however, that there will be a viable candidate to be scuppered by Murdoch's cheating ways. And there probably won't be. Ever seen a Tim Robbins film called "Bob Roberts"? It's a little hit and miss, but when it hits it gets a bullseye everytime. Essentially it's the story of a folk-singer who manipulates his way into power by disguising his right-wing agenda with folk songs. My point is that the debs and plebs really are easily suckered by a talentless schmuck who does knows how to appeal to a camera. Suppose someone goes on this show and wins by being blonde and large-breasted, suppose it gets hi-jacked by a moderately-successful pop-singer, worst of all, imagine if the person who won actually made it to the White house.
A fallacy? Well, no actually, 100 million votes were cast on the American Idol show. That is a hell of a lot of votes. Especially in a country where only 50% tops of the population bother to vote in a national election. The danger of "American Candidate" is that it has the chance to completely undermine a society. However much you hate George Bush and think of him as an Idiot, he is surrounded by intelligent people, and he himself does possess a modicum of political knowledge. I really don't see how an ordinary person could hope to be a good President. Becoming President traditionally relied on a person rising up through a particular party (except in famous brothers'/sons' cases) and then winning a primary to nominated as either party's Presidential candidate. That process guaranteed the candidate would at least have recieved some political grooming, and built up relationships with those who could make up his cabinet when in power. An "American Candidate" will be a third party candidate, backed by the Murdoch media machine, and probably advised by Murdoch's men. So much for democracy.
You see, it's not the top position that's really important. This was realised as far back as the middle ages and the wars of the Roses, when the Earl of Warwick became the Kingmaker. He was the person with the real power, and his "King" was little more than a veneer. If the eventual winner of this show does succeed in running for President then they will find themself hopelessly out of their depth and little more than a pawn to be pushed into power by a media magnate. That is scary.
It's always dangerous to let the public decide anything. They'll buy a Hear'say single regardless of the band's musical ability; they'll tell you that "XXX" is the best film of all time because it was the last film they saw; they will vote more for Pop Idol than they will for their Prime Minister, *and* they will pay to do so. The one advantage of elections was that the morons responsible for these atrocities (an ever-growing number) wouldn't want to vote for something politickicish, because who cared about that? Show the public a reality TV show where they get to choose and vote for a candidate and you're left with the dregs of modern society voting in a pleb because their TV tells them to.
Welcome to the future.
Scary? Well, what's even worse is that Rupert Murdoch is the string-puller in chief behind Fox, who are responsible for this democratic ahorrition. So basically you're looking at a Murdoch-backed candidate having a real shot at the White House.
Well, there'd be safeguards wouldn't there? No actually, it's very easy to rig an Idol show. Firstly you get to edit the highlights, suppose a guy you don't like has 100 good policies and says something a little bit anti-homosexual, then you can play that little bit a lot and shaft him, no pun intended. Equally, you get to control the phone lines and there was much speculation that Will Young beat Gggggareth purely because he was given twice as many phone-lines, so while garth fans knawed at the phone wires waiting on hold, Will fans didn't have any wait at all. As such, if Murdoch wanted to pick a candidate it wouldn't be too difficult.
This is assuming, however, that there will be a viable candidate to be scuppered by Murdoch's cheating ways. And there probably won't be. Ever seen a Tim Robbins film called "Bob Roberts"? It's a little hit and miss, but when it hits it gets a bullseye everytime. Essentially it's the story of a folk-singer who manipulates his way into power by disguising his right-wing agenda with folk songs. My point is that the debs and plebs really are easily suckered by a talentless schmuck who does knows how to appeal to a camera. Suppose someone goes on this show and wins by being blonde and large-breasted, suppose it gets hi-jacked by a moderately-successful pop-singer, worst of all, imagine if the person who won actually made it to the White house.
A fallacy? Well, no actually, 100 million votes were cast on the American Idol show. That is a hell of a lot of votes. Especially in a country where only 50% tops of the population bother to vote in a national election. The danger of "American Candidate" is that it has the chance to completely undermine a society. However much you hate George Bush and think of him as an Idiot, he is surrounded by intelligent people, and he himself does possess a modicum of political knowledge. I really don't see how an ordinary person could hope to be a good President. Becoming President traditionally relied on a person rising up through a particular party (except in famous brothers'/sons' cases) and then winning a primary to nominated as either party's Presidential candidate. That process guaranteed the candidate would at least have recieved some political grooming, and built up relationships with those who could make up his cabinet when in power. An "American Candidate" will be a third party candidate, backed by the Murdoch media machine, and probably advised by Murdoch's men. So much for democracy.
You see, it's not the top position that's really important. This was realised as far back as the middle ages and the wars of the Roses, when the Earl of Warwick became the Kingmaker. He was the person with the real power, and his "King" was little more than a veneer. If the eventual winner of this show does succeed in running for President then they will find themself hopelessly out of their depth and little more than a pawn to be pushed into power by a media magnate. That is scary.
It's always dangerous to let the public decide anything. They'll buy a Hear'say single regardless of the band's musical ability; they'll tell you that "XXX" is the best film of all time because it was the last film they saw; they will vote more for Pop Idol than they will for their Prime Minister, *and* they will pay to do so. The one advantage of elections was that the morons responsible for these atrocities (an ever-growing number) wouldn't want to vote for something politickicish, because who cared about that? Show the public a reality TV show where they get to choose and vote for a candidate and you're left with the dregs of modern society voting in a pleb because their TV tells them to.
Welcome to the future.
Rosalind wrote:
> What did you expect from a country who voted an actor as their
> president?
Like Mr Happy says, the President/Prime Minister is only really a figurehead for the government, actual decisions are pretty muhc influenced by those around the person.
Anyway, Martin Sheen would make a cool president, or if not that, prime minister :P Most of politics is acting anyway, really.
The program is a good idea, because I'll bet money that when it comes to the real voting, people stay with the main parties as they usually do, plus I'd bet that most of the average idol viewers don't vote anyway...
~~Belldandy~~
> What did you expect from a country who voted an actor as their
> president?
Like Mr Happy says, the President/Prime Minister is only really a figurehead for the government, actual decisions are pretty muhc influenced by those around the person.
Anyway, Martin Sheen would make a cool president, or if not that, prime minister :P Most of politics is acting anyway, really.
The program is a good idea, because I'll bet money that when it comes to the real voting, people stay with the main parties as they usually do, plus I'd bet that most of the average idol viewers don't vote anyway...
~~Belldandy~~
Goatboy wrote:
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
---
And there will be a repeat after the news and an omnibus edition on Sunday, for people too stupid to remember what happened or for those blank-faced zombies that need to fill an aching void in their water-filled head.
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
> TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
---
And there will be a repeat after the news and an omnibus edition on Sunday, for people too stupid to remember what happened or for those blank-faced zombies that need to fill an aching void in their water-filled head.
Reagan wasn't an entirely bad president. His method of destroying Communism was inspired.
"Spend money on our space program!"
"Which bit"
"The bit the Russians are crap at!"
"you mean micro-electronics, okay sir"
in russia
"The Americans are spending more money on their space program.."
"Spend more money on our space program!"
in America
"The Russians are spending more money on their space program.."
"Spend more money on our space program!"
and so on, until...
in russia
"Oh balls we seem to have run out of money...."
"Damn it, it looks like we'll have to bring in free-market reforms and then all will be lost in an orgy of repressed consumerism... but at least we beat them into space"
"Spend money on our space program!"
"Which bit"
"The bit the Russians are crap at!"
"you mean micro-electronics, okay sir"
in russia
"The Americans are spending more money on their space program.."
"Spend more money on our space program!"
in America
"The Russians are spending more money on their space program.."
"Spend more money on our space program!"
and so on, until...
in russia
"Oh balls we seem to have run out of money...."
"Damn it, it looks like we'll have to bring in free-market reforms and then all will be lost in an orgy of repressed consumerism... but at least we beat them into space"
What did you expect from a country who voted an actor as their president?
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
TV is stupid and evil and for idiot masses unable to read
Well, America's gone and taken the idol TV concept to it's completely illogical conclusion and started the mother of all idol programs "American Candidate". The shows premise is to get 100 people who say "ooh if I was president I would..." and whittle them down by audience vote elimination. Then coming into the final straight, if the ultiate winner is popular enough he will be allowed to run for President.
Scary? Well, what's even worse is that Rupert Murdoch is the string-puller in chief behind Fox, who are responsible for this democratic ahorrition. So basically you're looking at a Murdoch-backed candidate having a real shot at the White House.
Well, there'd be safeguards wouldn't there? No actually, it's very easy to rig an Idol show. Firstly you get to edit the highlights, suppose a guy you don't like has 100 good policies and says something a little bit anti-homosexual, then you can play that little bit a lot and shaft him, no pun intended. Equally, you get to control the phone lines and there was much speculation that Will Young beat Gggggareth purely because he was given twice as many phone-lines, so while garth fans knawed at the phone wires waiting on hold, Will fans didn't have any wait at all. As such, if Murdoch wanted to pick a candidate it wouldn't be too difficult.
This is assuming, however, that there will be a viable candidate to be scuppered by Murdoch's cheating ways. And there probably won't be. Ever seen a Tim Robbins film called "Bob Roberts"? It's a little hit and miss, but when it hits it gets a bullseye everytime. Essentially it's the story of a folk-singer who manipulates his way into power by disguising his right-wing agenda with folk songs. My point is that the debs and plebs really are easily suckered by a talentless schmuck who does knows how to appeal to a camera. Suppose someone goes on this show and wins by being blonde and large-breasted, suppose it gets hi-jacked by a moderately-successful pop-singer, worst of all, imagine if the person who won actually made it to the White house.
A fallacy? Well, no actually, 100 million votes were cast on the American Idol show. That is a hell of a lot of votes. Especially in a country where only 50% tops of the population bother to vote in a national election. The danger of "American Candidate" is that it has the chance to completely undermine a society. However much you hate George Bush and think of him as an Idiot, he is surrounded by intelligent people, and he himself does possess a modicum of political knowledge. I really don't see how an ordinary person could hope to be a good President. Becoming President traditionally relied on a person rising up through a particular party (except in famous brothers'/sons' cases) and then winning a primary to nominated as either party's Presidential candidate. That process guaranteed the candidate would at least have recieved some political grooming, and built up relationships with those who could make up his cabinet when in power. An "American Candidate" will be a third party candidate, backed by the Murdoch media machine, and probably advised by Murdoch's men. So much for democracy.
You see, it's not the top position that's really important. This was realised as far back as the middle ages and the wars of the Roses, when the Earl of Warwick became the Kingmaker. He was the person with the real power, and his "King" was little more than a veneer. If the eventual winner of this show does succeed in running for President then they will find themself hopelessly out of their depth and little more than a pawn to be pushed into power by a media magnate. That is scary.
It's always dangerous to let the public decide anything. They'll buy a Hear'say single regardless of the band's musical ability; they'll tell you that "XXX" is the best film of all time because it was the last film they saw; they will vote more for Pop Idol than they will for their Prime Minister, *and* they will pay to do so. The one advantage of elections was that the morons responsible for these atrocities (an ever-growing number) wouldn't want to vote for something politickicish, because who cared about that? Show the public a reality TV show where they get to choose and vote for a candidate and you're left with the dregs of modern society voting in a pleb because their TV tells them to.
Welcome to the future.
Scary? Well, what's even worse is that Rupert Murdoch is the string-puller in chief behind Fox, who are responsible for this democratic ahorrition. So basically you're looking at a Murdoch-backed candidate having a real shot at the White House.
Well, there'd be safeguards wouldn't there? No actually, it's very easy to rig an Idol show. Firstly you get to edit the highlights, suppose a guy you don't like has 100 good policies and says something a little bit anti-homosexual, then you can play that little bit a lot and shaft him, no pun intended. Equally, you get to control the phone lines and there was much speculation that Will Young beat Gggggareth purely because he was given twice as many phone-lines, so while garth fans knawed at the phone wires waiting on hold, Will fans didn't have any wait at all. As such, if Murdoch wanted to pick a candidate it wouldn't be too difficult.
This is assuming, however, that there will be a viable candidate to be scuppered by Murdoch's cheating ways. And there probably won't be. Ever seen a Tim Robbins film called "Bob Roberts"? It's a little hit and miss, but when it hits it gets a bullseye everytime. Essentially it's the story of a folk-singer who manipulates his way into power by disguising his right-wing agenda with folk songs. My point is that the debs and plebs really are easily suckered by a talentless schmuck who does knows how to appeal to a camera. Suppose someone goes on this show and wins by being blonde and large-breasted, suppose it gets hi-jacked by a moderately-successful pop-singer, worst of all, imagine if the person who won actually made it to the White house.
A fallacy? Well, no actually, 100 million votes were cast on the American Idol show. That is a hell of a lot of votes. Especially in a country where only 50% tops of the population bother to vote in a national election. The danger of "American Candidate" is that it has the chance to completely undermine a society. However much you hate George Bush and think of him as an Idiot, he is surrounded by intelligent people, and he himself does possess a modicum of political knowledge. I really don't see how an ordinary person could hope to be a good President. Becoming President traditionally relied on a person rising up through a particular party (except in famous brothers'/sons' cases) and then winning a primary to nominated as either party's Presidential candidate. That process guaranteed the candidate would at least have recieved some political grooming, and built up relationships with those who could make up his cabinet when in power. An "American Candidate" will be a third party candidate, backed by the Murdoch media machine, and probably advised by Murdoch's men. So much for democracy.
You see, it's not the top position that's really important. This was realised as far back as the middle ages and the wars of the Roses, when the Earl of Warwick became the Kingmaker. He was the person with the real power, and his "King" was little more than a veneer. If the eventual winner of this show does succeed in running for President then they will find themself hopelessly out of their depth and little more than a pawn to be pushed into power by a media magnate. That is scary.
It's always dangerous to let the public decide anything. They'll buy a Hear'say single regardless of the band's musical ability; they'll tell you that "XXX" is the best film of all time because it was the last film they saw; they will vote more for Pop Idol than they will for their Prime Minister, *and* they will pay to do so. The one advantage of elections was that the morons responsible for these atrocities (an ever-growing number) wouldn't want to vote for something politickicish, because who cared about that? Show the public a reality TV show where they get to choose and vote for a candidate and you're left with the dregs of modern society voting in a pleb because their TV tells them to.
Welcome to the future.