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Sat 21/09/02 at 20:09
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As Iraq refuses to recognise further UN resolutions and the prospect of war draws nearer, it's important to realise the reason for military actions is primarily Iraq obtaining/trying to obtain Weapons Of Mass Destruction, because Iraq has proven it cannot act responisibly in the past and has invaded/attacked/gassed neighbours and it's own people.

But, as science continues to develop more and more technologies, you have to wonder what other things a nation could acquire that would pose a danger to the rest of the world.

A vast number of nations - USA, UK, France, Germany, Russia, e.t.c - all have WMD's but each recognises, as does anyone with any political thought, that none would deploy such weapons without being first attacked. The same applies to other technologies we'll see in the future. It's not about stopping a nation acquiring technology, it's about preventing irresponsible nations from using that technology wrongly, "Rogue States" These include, Iraq, Iran, large numbers of former Soviet countries like Khazakstan, North Korea, China (limited extent).

Here are technologies and resuorces I think we could see provoke wars in the future if the wrong countries acquire or get hold of the technoogy first ;

Cloning is nearing perfection - give it another 50 years and mass production of clones will probably be feasible - modified clones could have massive uses.

Imagine that, sometime in the future, a nation somehow discovered the secret of immortality, it would be the greatest crisis EVER in so many ways.

Weather control - again, a technology theorised to be possible, could be the greatest threat seen.

Also, in the future, I believe we will increasingly see conflict ove resources. Not oil though - land for population and expansion, water supplies, crop land e.t.c. Only one book has so far theorised about this - to my knowledge - "Fighting For The Future" by Ralph Peters, where he details how the West and it's allies may find that the 21st century is about more than protecting just oil supplies but also the very things that allow us to live the lives we do, it's a great read if you can find it.

What does anyone else think, apart from "go away you boring American lover" :)

~~Belldandy~~
Mon 23/09/02 at 16:11
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Lol, USAF beat Bananaman to it, back in 1979 they also tried weather control - veiled as a way of averting tornado's - Project Storm Fury was eventually cancelled as, whilst it appeared to be working, the stroms were diverted into other areas instead of dissipating !

~~Belldandy~~
Mon 23/09/02 at 13:59
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I can't remember how it was done, but a few years back some MoD documents were declassified that showed the British military were attempting weather control just after WWII. It was about 'seeding' clouds to make rain more likely, thereby disrupting troop movements or whatever.

Anyway, I wouldn't bother with that USAF report. If you want true clairvoyance watch classic kids cartoon Bananaman: Doctor Doom had a weather balloon way back in the eighties. Is there something we should be told?
Mon 23/09/02 at 09:03
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Out of all of them the weather control one is the best, because proving it had been used would be difficult, and if someone could keep it's existence a secret......BTW Search on google for Air Force 2015 and there is a public domain report by the USAF detailing what the airforce could be like by 2015.....oh look, weather control :)

~~Belldandy~~
Sun 22/09/02 at 21:54
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cookie monster wrote:
> I think an ever more devastating weapon would be an EMP device,
> IMAGINE the devastation you could wreck if you deployed it in a major
> city, it would be dreadfull.


Detonate a nuke in high atmosphere = EMP device.

Weather Storm.

Quality superweapon!

;)
Sun 22/09/02 at 21:50
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Problem is that as soon as the technology is there, someone will sell it to someone else. I know, it would be as stupid as a country selling weapons to another country it would have problems with in the future.
Sun 22/09/02 at 19:46
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Belldandy wrote:

> Here are technologies and resuorces I think we could see provoke wars
> in the future if the wrong countries acquire or get hold of the
> technoogy first ;
>
> Cloning is nearing perfection - give it another 50 years and mass
> production of clones will probably be feasible - modified clones could
> have massive uses.

> Weather control - again, a technology theorised to be possible, could
> be the greatest threat seen.
>

What does this remind me of....ah yes Red Alert 2! :-)

Seriously though, while cloning has all manner of moral implications weather control could be guised as scientific discovery or helping nations with poor climates perhaps, but it is no less fesable than the A-bomb was in say, 1930?
Sat 21/09/02 at 22:25
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There would be all this moral crap over clones though. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Sat 21/09/02 at 22:02
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Yes you do love America and it annoys me but I've noticed myself agreeing with on things I thought different before... you smart person you.

Anyway it's a good theory... nobody wants to kill us all but if we keep expanding like this people will be fighting over every resource on the planet and such.

You might even see clone wars on land... or something.

Not sure

Hopefully I'll be dead when word falls apart
Sat 21/09/02 at 21:48
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I think an ever more devastating weapon would be an EMP device, IMAGINE the devastation you could wreck if you deployed it in a major city, it would be dreadfull.
Sat 21/09/02 at 20:09
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As Iraq refuses to recognise further UN resolutions and the prospect of war draws nearer, it's important to realise the reason for military actions is primarily Iraq obtaining/trying to obtain Weapons Of Mass Destruction, because Iraq has proven it cannot act responisibly in the past and has invaded/attacked/gassed neighbours and it's own people.

But, as science continues to develop more and more technologies, you have to wonder what other things a nation could acquire that would pose a danger to the rest of the world.

A vast number of nations - USA, UK, France, Germany, Russia, e.t.c - all have WMD's but each recognises, as does anyone with any political thought, that none would deploy such weapons without being first attacked. The same applies to other technologies we'll see in the future. It's not about stopping a nation acquiring technology, it's about preventing irresponsible nations from using that technology wrongly, "Rogue States" These include, Iraq, Iran, large numbers of former Soviet countries like Khazakstan, North Korea, China (limited extent).

Here are technologies and resuorces I think we could see provoke wars in the future if the wrong countries acquire or get hold of the technoogy first ;

Cloning is nearing perfection - give it another 50 years and mass production of clones will probably be feasible - modified clones could have massive uses.

Imagine that, sometime in the future, a nation somehow discovered the secret of immortality, it would be the greatest crisis EVER in so many ways.

Weather control - again, a technology theorised to be possible, could be the greatest threat seen.

Also, in the future, I believe we will increasingly see conflict ove resources. Not oil though - land for population and expansion, water supplies, crop land e.t.c. Only one book has so far theorised about this - to my knowledge - "Fighting For The Future" by Ralph Peters, where he details how the West and it's allies may find that the 21st century is about more than protecting just oil supplies but also the very things that allow us to live the lives we do, it's a great read if you can find it.

What does anyone else think, apart from "go away you boring American lover" :)

~~Belldandy~~

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