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Fri 20/09/02 at 19:29
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Taken from the New York Times...

"Last month, Warner halted preproduction on Batman vs. Superman,' a dark story about the two warring superheroes that had been in development for nearly a year and had been given the studio's greenlight.

[The] debate over the path of Superman underscored the creative rift between two top studio executives, Alan Horn, the president of Warner Brothers, who took over three years ago and favored the more feel-good 'Superman,' and Lorenzo di Bonaventura, the 12-year Warner veteran who backed 'Superman vs. Batman.' Mr. di Bonaventura quit two weeks ago to become an independent producer....Insiders described unusual goings-on at Warner over the film. In early August, 10 top Warner executives were asked to read both scripts. In effect, they chose 'Superman' as the more marketable movie over the long term. 'Lorenzo was overuled,' said one person involved with the picture. 'What happened is, the whole company rallied behind Alan.'

Bob Brassel, a senior vice president for production at Warner Brothers, said the studio became interested in 'Batman vs. Superman' last October, after reading a promising script by Andrew Kevin Walker, who wrote the murder drama 'Seven.' The studio hired Akiva Goldsman, who wrote the screenplay for 'A Beautiful Mind,' to polish Mr. Walker's script (As FIRST reported by BOF--Jett), executives there said.

And, last spring, Warner executives began negotiating with Wolfgang Petersen to direct 'Batman vs. Superman' over 'Troy,' another Warner project. The premise for the movie was simply this: Batman's fiancée dies and Superman, whom Batman blames for her death, saves Batman's soul.

According to Warner executives, the story was a way to reinvigorate both characters, even though the theme was dark and the two superheroes fought during much of the film. After audiences were reintroduced to them, studio executives said they reasoned, they could make new films based on separate story lines. Already, a Batman script was in the works and Mr. Abrams, the creator of 'Alias,' was working on a screenplay for 'Superman.' The studio announced three days later that it would begin filming "Superman vs. Batman" in February with Mr. Petersen, who had worked on 'The Perfect Storm,' in the director's chair.

Mr. Abrams kept working, finishing his script and handing in the last 50 pages in mid-July. Then, Mr. Peters, Mr. Abrams and Mr. Brassel met in Mr. di Bonaventura's office on the Warner lot in Burbank to discuss it. According to Mr. Peters, Mr. di Bonaventura explained that he liked the script and said that the studio wanted to proceed with both movies but hoped to release 'Batman vs. Superman' first.

According to Mr. Peters, Mr. Abrams balked. "He said, `You can't do that,' " said Mr. Peters. To illustrate his point, two people who attended the meeting said, Mr. Abrams told Mr. di Bonaventura that releasing 'Batman vs. Superman' first was akin to releasing a movie like 'When Harry Divorced Sally' before 'When Harry Met Sally.'

But Mr. di Bonaventura saw it another way, according to Warner executives. First, the director Warner wanted for 'Superman,' Joseph McGinty Nichol, known as McG, was not available. Second, Mr. di Bonaventura wanted to position Batman vs. Superman' as a clash of two old superheroes — sure to attract fans of the earlier films — before reinventing the characters.

Mr. Peters, as producer, had an interest in seeing his film made first. And he was backed by a growing chorus at Warner, who agreed. They worried about the darker movie's reception: if the audience hated it, that could kill off both franchises. And pitting two well-known characters against each other was considered by many in Hollywood as a last-ditch effort to eke a profit out of a dying brand.

Mr. Horn said he read Mr. Abrams's script in mid-July and liked his approach. 'In reintroducing these characters we wanted to do what was in the best interest of the company,' he said.

One morning in early August, each of the executives who had been given the script filed into a conference room on the second floor near Mr. Horn's office to debate which movie the studio should make first. None, except for Mr. Brassel and Mr. Robinov, knew which movie Mr. di Bonaventura or Mr. Horn favored. 'When we gave them the script we did not want to bias them,' Mr. Robinov said. One by one, the executives argued each story's merits. Mr. di Bonaventura made the case that 'Batman vs. Superman' was chock-full of action and that the story would be easier to market, said one executive who attended. Some argued that Mr. Abrams's story was compelling and with three parts, tripled the number of DVD's, games and licensed products the studio could sell if the first movie was a hit. If the movie bombed, the studio could still proceed with 'Batman vs. Superman.'"

Soon after all this, WB executives decided to go with the SUPERMAN film and shelved BvS. Then Lorenzo bailed out--obviously due to the fact he lost a power struggle with Alen Horn. As a result, we will get a Bret Ratner directed film about the flying Kryptonian in 2004. So what's the deal with BvS? Dead as hell IMO. Bret Ratner--according to SCI FI WIRE--says that BvS is "four years away" and it has nothing to do with his film. My take: I don't think WB will ever make this film; and if they do, it won't be ANYTIME soon. But I do think that there is going to be a BATMAN film sometime in the future. And I think it will before 2010--but don't hold your breath.

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Disappointing news for fans, eh?
Sat 21/09/02 at 12:24
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great, hope they won't be as dull as the first film. Not that I'm saying its a bad film, infact its a good one, I just hope they don't show all the action scenes in the trailer like they did for the first film. That kind of ruined the experience for me.
Sat 21/09/02 at 12:06
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cipro wrote:
and rumours of a Spiderman sequel

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Um... rumours? Spiderman 2 + 3 were officially announced before Spiderman 1 was released
Sat 21/09/02 at 12:04
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Oh well too bad, I think it was a quite good idea for a movie. I still think they'll bring out a Batman movie (probably be crap like the other sequels) and possibly a new superman film, mainly because popularity in comic book to movies has grown quite a bit since Spiderman this year.

With Dare Devil, The Hulk, X-Men 2 and rumours of a Spiderman sequel, I think hollywood are going to make allot more films based on comics, so it wouldn't be suprising if there where a superman film some time in the near future.
Sat 21/09/02 at 09:43
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Well, there was rumours of a Superman film in the late Nineties, with Tim Burton as director and *sniggers* Nicholas Cage as Superman.

However, nothing materialised, and the last I heard of a film for either franchise was their respective 'Year One' projects, some of which is chronichled in the above article. Now, the most likely scenario is a new Superman film again, after the Batman & Robin debacle killed the franchise.
Fri 20/09/02 at 22:08
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Oh well,

Isnt Superman Reborn coming out sometime?
Fri 20/09/02 at 19:51
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:-(
Fri 20/09/02 at 19:41
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Absolutely no surprise there
Fri 20/09/02 at 19:29
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Taken from the New York Times...

"Last month, Warner halted preproduction on Batman vs. Superman,' a dark story about the two warring superheroes that had been in development for nearly a year and had been given the studio's greenlight.

[The] debate over the path of Superman underscored the creative rift between two top studio executives, Alan Horn, the president of Warner Brothers, who took over three years ago and favored the more feel-good 'Superman,' and Lorenzo di Bonaventura, the 12-year Warner veteran who backed 'Superman vs. Batman.' Mr. di Bonaventura quit two weeks ago to become an independent producer....Insiders described unusual goings-on at Warner over the film. In early August, 10 top Warner executives were asked to read both scripts. In effect, they chose 'Superman' as the more marketable movie over the long term. 'Lorenzo was overuled,' said one person involved with the picture. 'What happened is, the whole company rallied behind Alan.'

Bob Brassel, a senior vice president for production at Warner Brothers, said the studio became interested in 'Batman vs. Superman' last October, after reading a promising script by Andrew Kevin Walker, who wrote the murder drama 'Seven.' The studio hired Akiva Goldsman, who wrote the screenplay for 'A Beautiful Mind,' to polish Mr. Walker's script (As FIRST reported by BOF--Jett), executives there said.

And, last spring, Warner executives began negotiating with Wolfgang Petersen to direct 'Batman vs. Superman' over 'Troy,' another Warner project. The premise for the movie was simply this: Batman's fiancée dies and Superman, whom Batman blames for her death, saves Batman's soul.

According to Warner executives, the story was a way to reinvigorate both characters, even though the theme was dark and the two superheroes fought during much of the film. After audiences were reintroduced to them, studio executives said they reasoned, they could make new films based on separate story lines. Already, a Batman script was in the works and Mr. Abrams, the creator of 'Alias,' was working on a screenplay for 'Superman.' The studio announced three days later that it would begin filming "Superman vs. Batman" in February with Mr. Petersen, who had worked on 'The Perfect Storm,' in the director's chair.

Mr. Abrams kept working, finishing his script and handing in the last 50 pages in mid-July. Then, Mr. Peters, Mr. Abrams and Mr. Brassel met in Mr. di Bonaventura's office on the Warner lot in Burbank to discuss it. According to Mr. Peters, Mr. di Bonaventura explained that he liked the script and said that the studio wanted to proceed with both movies but hoped to release 'Batman vs. Superman' first.

According to Mr. Peters, Mr. Abrams balked. "He said, `You can't do that,' " said Mr. Peters. To illustrate his point, two people who attended the meeting said, Mr. Abrams told Mr. di Bonaventura that releasing 'Batman vs. Superman' first was akin to releasing a movie like 'When Harry Divorced Sally' before 'When Harry Met Sally.'

But Mr. di Bonaventura saw it another way, according to Warner executives. First, the director Warner wanted for 'Superman,' Joseph McGinty Nichol, known as McG, was not available. Second, Mr. di Bonaventura wanted to position Batman vs. Superman' as a clash of two old superheroes — sure to attract fans of the earlier films — before reinventing the characters.

Mr. Peters, as producer, had an interest in seeing his film made first. And he was backed by a growing chorus at Warner, who agreed. They worried about the darker movie's reception: if the audience hated it, that could kill off both franchises. And pitting two well-known characters against each other was considered by many in Hollywood as a last-ditch effort to eke a profit out of a dying brand.

Mr. Horn said he read Mr. Abrams's script in mid-July and liked his approach. 'In reintroducing these characters we wanted to do what was in the best interest of the company,' he said.

One morning in early August, each of the executives who had been given the script filed into a conference room on the second floor near Mr. Horn's office to debate which movie the studio should make first. None, except for Mr. Brassel and Mr. Robinov, knew which movie Mr. di Bonaventura or Mr. Horn favored. 'When we gave them the script we did not want to bias them,' Mr. Robinov said. One by one, the executives argued each story's merits. Mr. di Bonaventura made the case that 'Batman vs. Superman' was chock-full of action and that the story would be easier to market, said one executive who attended. Some argued that Mr. Abrams's story was compelling and with three parts, tripled the number of DVD's, games and licensed products the studio could sell if the first movie was a hit. If the movie bombed, the studio could still proceed with 'Batman vs. Superman.'"

Soon after all this, WB executives decided to go with the SUPERMAN film and shelved BvS. Then Lorenzo bailed out--obviously due to the fact he lost a power struggle with Alen Horn. As a result, we will get a Bret Ratner directed film about the flying Kryptonian in 2004. So what's the deal with BvS? Dead as hell IMO. Bret Ratner--according to SCI FI WIRE--says that BvS is "four years away" and it has nothing to do with his film. My take: I don't think WB will ever make this film; and if they do, it won't be ANYTIME soon. But I do think that there is going to be a BATMAN film sometime in the future. And I think it will before 2010--but don't hold your breath.

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Disappointing news for fans, eh?

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