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Ive been tracking the opinion in the US of this game and found one PC discussion board coming to the conclusion that Shenmue has the best graphics of any game to date.
The next list just shows how well it is doing.
1) Shenmue(Dreamcast)
2) Pokemon Silver (Gameboy)
3) Pokemon Gold (Gameboy)
4) Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Nintendo 64)
5) NBA2K1 (Dreamcast)
6) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (Dreamcast)
7) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (PlayStation)
8) The World Is Not Enough (Nintendo 64)
9) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation 2)
10) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation)
Is this signs of how well the DC is doing?
Comments please.
The next list just shows how well it is doing.
1) Shenmue(Dreamcast)
2) Pokemon Silver (Gameboy)
3) Pokemon Gold (Gameboy)
4) Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Nintendo 64)
5) NBA2K1 (Dreamcast)
6) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (Dreamcast)
7) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (PlayStation)
8) The World Is Not Enough (Nintendo 64)
9) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation 2)
10) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation)
Is this signs of how well the DC is doing?
Comments please.
I find myself agreeing with you partly. Different people/cultures/backgrounds have different opinions.
This dicussion board wasn't dicussing the actual gameplay just the quality of graphics/textures/lighting effects and shadows etc etc. The guy who started the subject is a game developer who does love his DC but also programs for the PC. What annoyed him was that the graphics were better than anything he had seen on his PC with a $400 graphics card.
The general conclusion from everyone, including a guy from 3DFX, was that the way the DC uses tiling, real time shadows, antialiasing, texture compression and all the other little tricks has lead to the best in game graphics to date. There are a few new games which might touch it like Halo and MGS2 but these have yet to be seen working.
The art of creating such graphics on the DC is in the way the PowerVR graphics chip works. Unlike other systems it only renders what you can see. This is why the games look as good, if not better,(at the moment) than everything else about.
The figure of 3 million polygons per second for the DC is with all effects on. But as it only renders and processes what you can see it can show more on the screen than other systems.
Eg. PS2 can push out 66 million polygons per second.
Well maybe it can, it has the raw number crunching power, but this is with no effects on like dynamic lighting etc.
A PC graphics card can push out even more but it has the same problem with effects and having to render and process the polygons and textures which you cant see.
3DFX are getting round this by changing the graphics card driver. This is called Hidden Graphics Removal (HGR). Apparently it will double the speed of the Voodoo 5500 with 4X FSAA enabled.
It looks like Videologic (makers of the PowerVR2 chip) were ahead of there time.
This dicussion board wasn't dicussing the actual gameplay just the quality of graphics/textures/lighting effects and shadows etc etc. The guy who started the subject is a game developer who does love his DC but also programs for the PC. What annoyed him was that the graphics were better than anything he had seen on his PC with a $400 graphics card.
The general conclusion from everyone, including a guy from 3DFX, was that the way the DC uses tiling, real time shadows, antialiasing, texture compression and all the other little tricks has lead to the best in game graphics to date. There are a few new games which might touch it like Halo and MGS2 but these have yet to be seen working.
The art of creating such graphics on the DC is in the way the PowerVR graphics chip works. Unlike other systems it only renders what you can see. This is why the games look as good, if not better,(at the moment) than everything else about.
The figure of 3 million polygons per second for the DC is with all effects on. But as it only renders and processes what you can see it can show more on the screen than other systems.
Eg. PS2 can push out 66 million polygons per second.
Well maybe it can, it has the raw number crunching power, but this is with no effects on like dynamic lighting etc.
A PC graphics card can push out even more but it has the same problem with effects and having to render and process the polygons and textures which you cant see.
3DFX are getting round this by changing the graphics card driver. This is called Hidden Graphics Removal (HGR). Apparently it will double the speed of the Voodoo 5500 with 4X FSAA enabled.
It looks like Videologic (makers of the PowerVR2 chip) were ahead of there time.
The only problem is that it's very subjective. As you say yourself, you found ONE PC board that came to that conclusion.
I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Shenmue, just that if you looked around, you'd probably find other boards coming to different conclusions - MSR for example.
I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Shenmue, just that if you looked around, you'd probably find other boards coming to different conclusions - MSR for example.
Ive been tracking the opinion in the US of this game and found one PC discussion board coming to the conclusion that Shenmue has the best graphics of any game to date.
The next list just shows how well it is doing.
1) Shenmue(Dreamcast)
2) Pokemon Silver (Gameboy)
3) Pokemon Gold (Gameboy)
4) Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Nintendo 64)
5) NBA2K1 (Dreamcast)
6) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (Dreamcast)
7) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (PlayStation)
8) The World Is Not Enough (Nintendo 64)
9) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation 2)
10) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation)
Is this signs of how well the DC is doing?
Comments please.
The next list just shows how well it is doing.
1) Shenmue(Dreamcast)
2) Pokemon Silver (Gameboy)
3) Pokemon Gold (Gameboy)
4) Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (Nintendo 64)
5) NBA2K1 (Dreamcast)
6) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (Dreamcast)
7) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (PlayStation)
8) The World Is Not Enough (Nintendo 64)
9) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation 2)
10) Madden NFL 2001 (PlayStation)
Is this signs of how well the DC is doing?
Comments please.