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Tue 20/08/02 at 17:05
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Is there such a thing? i've only just realised that part of a form on my site is missing because Netscape (6.2) doesn't support them..apparently, I would have thought they'd be essential!

If they don't work, is there something (other than Flash) that you could suggest?

thanks.
Tue 20/08/02 at 19:41
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Ah Tyla..almost forgot: I was having a peep at your site not too long ago and noticed your index :D I know your good with images but did you draw the people (your family) they look class!
Tue 20/08/02 at 19:16
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Tyla wrote:
> Fog wrote:
> I know they're there but you can't see them, kinda misses the point
> if
> you want someone to click on them, kinda looks like i've put some
> pointless text in for no reason (text right of radio buttons)
>
> I know you knew they were there, I found it kind of funny thats all!
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:p


> Use a class on the containing cell to dictate the colour of the input
> bkgnd. This works on all including Macs. Especially OSX as this
> renders radio buttons very oddly. I mentioned in a previous post to
> RickOss? about using CSS on form's and that unless you know what does
> and doesn't work across platforms/browsers, then you should avoid it.
> One thingpeople tend to forget with forms, especially with Windows OS,
> is that the users desktop setting has a direct effect on how a form is
> rendered.
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makes sense but I get most of my CSS from HTMLgoodies.com, works fine on the browsers I use (MS IE6/Netscape 4/6.22) so i'm happy, i'll try new styles out when I move to Linux/Mozilla but thanks for telling me :)
>
> You may be able to read it fine, but that's you, one of the dumbest
> statements anyone can make is that "It's ok for me!" I can
> just imagine my clients reactions if I said that to them!
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heh, well you wouldn't, thats a fair point, I still think they look reasonably clear, i'm changing them soon anyway to get rid of the back/reload/forward functions as they'll never be used.

> One quick question... why no click throughs on your protfolio? Would
> be interested in seeing some of your previous work.
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I havn't added the links yet because they're not on full domains and it looks cheap :) e.g. my hip-hop site is located at: http://membres.lycos.fr/enterthefog/tom
needs a little more updating though.

my problem is I start one website and then update another..and another until I find an intrest in another one :)
I started the Gamecube website a couple of weeks ago then completly updated http://enterthefog.co.uk (again) although all it needs now is a full domain and he scripts to be put into place.

Also: 4 out of those websites are complete, 3 are to be completed within the next few months and one is almost on it's death bed :)
Tue 20/08/02 at 19:06
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:D thanks for the encouragement, although i've only got a few tables to work on, you probably had loads!
but thanks, although I don't think cellspacing would give me the same effect.
i'll try the borderstyle out then, even if it only works in 6.22 thats one more browser than it's current state...
Tue 20/08/02 at 19:04
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Fog wrote:
> I know they're there but you can't see them, kinda misses the point if
> you want someone to click on them, kinda looks like i've put some
> pointless text in for no reason (text right of radio buttons)

I know you knew they were there, I found it kind of funny thats all!

> Whats wrong with my CSS? everything works on Netscape, If I change the
> background colour on the radio buttons I can see a circle but in MS IE
> the background changes the square surrounding the button.

Use a class on the containing cell to dictate the colour of the input bkgnd. This works on all including Macs. Especially OSX as this renders radio buttons very oddly. I mentioned in a previous post to RickOss? about using CSS on form's and that unless you know what does and doesn't work across platforms/browsers, then you should avoid it. One thingpeople tend to forget with forms, especially with Windows OS, is that the users desktop setting has a direct effect on how a form is rendered.


> also: TRH? the right hand? :/ no idea.
> If you mean the top navigation, I can read it perfectly fine, i'm
> currently viewing at 1280x1024 and it seems ok too.

You may be able to read it fine, but that's you, one of the dumbest statements anyone can make is that "It's ok for me!" I can just imagine my clients reactions if I said that to them!

One quick question... why no click throughs on your protfolio? Would be interested in seeing some of your previous work.
Tue 20/08/02 at 18:56
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Fog wrote:
> Also, yeah the border on the left navigation (main) it should be
> there, it just doesn't recognise the bordercolor change like MS IE
> does. Apart from that, it's the way I set it.


NS uses the "borderstyle" css element, butonly in CSS2/3 not CSS1. It will also only work in NS6.22 and no others. The way around it is cells pacing instead with it using the background colour to seperate the cells.

Netscape and CSS borders give me the biggest headaches! My last corp site uses alot os CSS'd tables and getting the borders to work properly in NS took ages.
Tue 20/08/02 at 18:33
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Also, yeah the border on the left navigation (main) it should be there, it just doesn't recognise the bordercolor change like MS IE does. Apart from that, it's the way I set it.
Tue 20/08/02 at 18:31
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I know they're there but you can't see them, kinda misses the point if you want someone to click on them, kinda looks like i've put some pointless text in for no reason (text right of radio buttons)

Whats wrong with my CSS? everything works on Netscape, If I change the background colour on the radio buttons I can see a circle but in MS IE the background changes the square surrounding the button.

also: TRH? the right hand? :/ no idea.
If you mean the top navigation, I can read it perfectly fine, i'm currently viewing at 1280x1024 and it seems ok too.
Tue 20/08/02 at 17:55
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Your using some really bad CSS in your page. Concentrate on getting it to work in NS6 as if it works in this, it'll work in IE5/6. IE is renowned for making it up as it goes along so spotting mistakes is much harder.

Your radio buttons are there in NS6, if you guess...

Also in NS6: The border surrounding the menu looks like it shouldn't be there? IT's also worth noting that from a usability point of view, it really is a bad idea to over style your forms!

BTW.. TRH Menu, text really hard to read.
Tue 20/08/02 at 17:17
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sounds fair enough, just been reading that you can't change the colour of the round thing though just the square that surrounds it.
I'll try some check boxes or summet.
Tue 20/08/02 at 17:12
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I see 'em. Maybe it's just dodgy CSS?

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