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Wed 07/08/02 at 12:35
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Ever since that day back in January when he signed for United from Argentina side Indipendiente for around £7m, many questions have been asked. They all started off as "Who on Earth is Diego Forlan??" And once his past with the Argentinian outfit were looked into, all our hopes of Silverware were beginning to rise as we saw what natural abillity this young Uruguayan had as a goal-scorer supreme.

But as the days went on, into weeks and even months, the pressure began to pile-up onto the young Uruguayan's shoulders as he failed to hit the back of the net even once in a total of 17 Sub Appearences and Starts during the 2001/2002 campaign in the League and Europe alone for his new club.
It became apparent that this unknown South American may have left all his 'nack' for scoring goals back at the Airport in Argentina before he flew-out to England, and a 'Dream Move' to Old Trafford.

What's wrong with him?? He's had a fair few chances and a fair bit of time to settle in to the Premiership life-style too.
Have we just been expecting too much from him after seeing his Track Record from a completely different region??

Whatever's been plagueing him, it looks as if it may be coming to an end.
Signs of improvements have been emerging ever since he scored 'THAT' goal for Uruguay in the World Cup. That now leaves him with a total of 2 goals in 5 games for his country which is a lot more than he can say for his career at Old Trafford, in a much shorter space of time too!
It has been believed that scoring such a goal at such a stage would help his self-confidence, and help him to one-day find the back of the net for United, at a time that ISN'T all that far away...

This has been the case if pre-season games.
No, he hasn't been as consistant as a player like Henry at Arsenal, but every little goal he's scored so-far has helped. Who cares if they've only come against the likes of Bournmouth and First Division teams from Denmark, every little piece will help to complete the puzzle.
When you look at the number of 'goals' he scored, the Amsterdam Tournament appeared to be a complete failure of just 2 games for him.
But the number of chances he was given and the times when we saw him in a goal-scoring oppurtunity just goes to show that his determination is still there, and that he's willing to take chance and DEFINITLEY make big mistakes.
But despite all this, some people won't give him the time he deserves.

His Manager, Sir Alex Ferguson has recently risen to the defence of Forlan, one of the under-fire players at Old Trafford (just like Veron and Blanc were) by saying that: "If he was 33 I would be worried but he's not. He is only 23 and has a long time to improve,".
On the defence of his lack-of-goals he has also added: "There is nothing wrong in terms of him taking chances, but he just needs the confidence of a goal. At the moment, nine parts of Diego's game are very good.", and that: "It is fair to say that he needs a goal to settle himself down and he has to trust himself more when he shoots. At the moment he is leaning back all the time, which is why those shots went over the bar."

So, as you can see, Fergie still has a lot of faith in his pressured frontman. He may also not be a great partner for Van Nistelrooy or Solskjaer, and he may not be worthy of the no.9 shirt yet either, but with scouts like brother Martin who have discovered the likes of Bojan Djordjic and even Ruud Van Nistelrooy in their early days... who can say Fergie's made a bad descision in signing Forlan after only 6 months??

Just give him a bit more time, and he'll soon start scoring goals in the games that really matter. The Premiership is not 'piece of cake' after-all. Diego was still very young and in-experienced when he first arrived. It was like stepping into a completely different world for him.
Players like Van Nistelrooy and Hasselbaink can have instant effects in terms of goal-scoring because they come from European clubs who are using the playing in Europe on a regular basis, and against the top Brittish teams of United, Liverpool and Arsenal.
Diego Forlan however has only come from Argentina.
Many teams there may have never played against a team like Barcelona or Real Madrid, and the only big-name players round there way are peole who've returned home just like Ariel Ortega, and the potential Argentine Internationals of the future.
It's a completely different world over there!

Jumping straight into European Football from the South American game will hit you hard than a moving train going at 2000mph (if that's possible!)!

Forlan has potential, he just needs time to bring it all out in this new, complex and challenging world of football.
Even the great Ronaldo or Rivaldo wouldn't be as good in Europe as they are today if they hadn't been working there at it for years now.
Diego Forlan could be a big-name in 4 years time....

As United fans, we all want to see him score his first goal and celebrate it with him. We want him to know what he feels like to play like Ruud Van Nistelrooy on a regular basis.
We may not be able to actually go to Old Trafford or train him ourselves or anything, but all this negative talk and bad-mouthing the new boy is only gunna make things 10 times worse for him!

Just think how you'd feel when you can't quite fulfill your dreams in a dream-like situation...
Thu 22/08/02 at 10:42
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i like deigo forlan i think he is like scohles good at long rang shots.
Fri 09/08/02 at 12:20
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I wouldn't call him a bad buy - he's definitkley got potential.

But when you look at the TIME of his arrival, then you see how bad a signing he really was.

He arrived at a time when the Title Race was really starting to get Hot, and when United's games in Europe and elsewhere were really getting tough too. I think Fergie must have grabbed him as the easiest open option and EXPECTED this in-experienced young player to take-over from Andy Cole and carry them onto the Championships.

If he'd have only recenty signed him they it could all be so different...
For one thing, he may still only have had U-21 Caps for Uruguay, as I think being at United got him some recognition.
But at least he'd have a fresh start, ready to go right from day 1 rather than being thrown in at the middle of things.
Wed 07/08/02 at 17:53
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†-Riquelme-† wrote:

> Hopefully I will witness that as i got Tickets to that game :D

Me too and for the Champions League Qualifer on the 27th, see you there :D
Wed 07/08/02 at 17:50
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Shadow wrote:
> I would have to agree as well, Forlan will score a hat full of goals
> this season. His first at Old Trafford will come this Saturday against
> Boca Juniors.

Hopefully I will witness that as i got Tickets to that game :D
Wed 07/08/02 at 17:45
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I would have to agree as well, Forlan will score a hat full of goals this season. His first at Old Trafford will come this Saturday against Boca Juniors.
Wed 07/08/02 at 17:07
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i personally think he was a bad buy. I am not saying this because he hasn't scored, because i think he has been desperately unlucky (like in the champions league semi final). Hes just not one of those players who i can see fitting into man utd. Boro were annoyed at missing out on him but they have landed massimo Maccarone who is a superior player and has that eye for goal which very few player have. The two players with the best eye for goals in the league are hasselbaink and then Henry. They know as soon as they get the ball exactly what they are going to do with it and i see a similar hunger in Maccarone. This season will prove that whether the decision was forced onto them Boro got the better deal.
Wed 07/08/02 at 14:57
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Agreed. I expect Forlan will deliver the goods this season. i've seen many a striker go through a "goal drought" and I've seen every one of them come out of it a better striker.
Wed 07/08/02 at 12:35
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"Long time no see!"
Posts: 8,351
Ever since that day back in January when he signed for United from Argentina side Indipendiente for around £7m, many questions have been asked. They all started off as "Who on Earth is Diego Forlan??" And once his past with the Argentinian outfit were looked into, all our hopes of Silverware were beginning to rise as we saw what natural abillity this young Uruguayan had as a goal-scorer supreme.

But as the days went on, into weeks and even months, the pressure began to pile-up onto the young Uruguayan's shoulders as he failed to hit the back of the net even once in a total of 17 Sub Appearences and Starts during the 2001/2002 campaign in the League and Europe alone for his new club.
It became apparent that this unknown South American may have left all his 'nack' for scoring goals back at the Airport in Argentina before he flew-out to England, and a 'Dream Move' to Old Trafford.

What's wrong with him?? He's had a fair few chances and a fair bit of time to settle in to the Premiership life-style too.
Have we just been expecting too much from him after seeing his Track Record from a completely different region??

Whatever's been plagueing him, it looks as if it may be coming to an end.
Signs of improvements have been emerging ever since he scored 'THAT' goal for Uruguay in the World Cup. That now leaves him with a total of 2 goals in 5 games for his country which is a lot more than he can say for his career at Old Trafford, in a much shorter space of time too!
It has been believed that scoring such a goal at such a stage would help his self-confidence, and help him to one-day find the back of the net for United, at a time that ISN'T all that far away...

This has been the case if pre-season games.
No, he hasn't been as consistant as a player like Henry at Arsenal, but every little goal he's scored so-far has helped. Who cares if they've only come against the likes of Bournmouth and First Division teams from Denmark, every little piece will help to complete the puzzle.
When you look at the number of 'goals' he scored, the Amsterdam Tournament appeared to be a complete failure of just 2 games for him.
But the number of chances he was given and the times when we saw him in a goal-scoring oppurtunity just goes to show that his determination is still there, and that he's willing to take chance and DEFINITLEY make big mistakes.
But despite all this, some people won't give him the time he deserves.

His Manager, Sir Alex Ferguson has recently risen to the defence of Forlan, one of the under-fire players at Old Trafford (just like Veron and Blanc were) by saying that: "If he was 33 I would be worried but he's not. He is only 23 and has a long time to improve,".
On the defence of his lack-of-goals he has also added: "There is nothing wrong in terms of him taking chances, but he just needs the confidence of a goal. At the moment, nine parts of Diego's game are very good.", and that: "It is fair to say that he needs a goal to settle himself down and he has to trust himself more when he shoots. At the moment he is leaning back all the time, which is why those shots went over the bar."

So, as you can see, Fergie still has a lot of faith in his pressured frontman. He may also not be a great partner for Van Nistelrooy or Solskjaer, and he may not be worthy of the no.9 shirt yet either, but with scouts like brother Martin who have discovered the likes of Bojan Djordjic and even Ruud Van Nistelrooy in their early days... who can say Fergie's made a bad descision in signing Forlan after only 6 months??

Just give him a bit more time, and he'll soon start scoring goals in the games that really matter. The Premiership is not 'piece of cake' after-all. Diego was still very young and in-experienced when he first arrived. It was like stepping into a completely different world for him.
Players like Van Nistelrooy and Hasselbaink can have instant effects in terms of goal-scoring because they come from European clubs who are using the playing in Europe on a regular basis, and against the top Brittish teams of United, Liverpool and Arsenal.
Diego Forlan however has only come from Argentina.
Many teams there may have never played against a team like Barcelona or Real Madrid, and the only big-name players round there way are peole who've returned home just like Ariel Ortega, and the potential Argentine Internationals of the future.
It's a completely different world over there!

Jumping straight into European Football from the South American game will hit you hard than a moving train going at 2000mph (if that's possible!)!

Forlan has potential, he just needs time to bring it all out in this new, complex and challenging world of football.
Even the great Ronaldo or Rivaldo wouldn't be as good in Europe as they are today if they hadn't been working there at it for years now.
Diego Forlan could be a big-name in 4 years time....

As United fans, we all want to see him score his first goal and celebrate it with him. We want him to know what he feels like to play like Ruud Van Nistelrooy on a regular basis.
We may not be able to actually go to Old Trafford or train him ourselves or anything, but all this negative talk and bad-mouthing the new boy is only gunna make things 10 times worse for him!

Just think how you'd feel when you can't quite fulfill your dreams in a dream-like situation...

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