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Imagine a future where crimes are solved before they take place... Imagine if you were one minute sitting eating your breakfast and then were interrupted by several armed police officers running into your building, and arresting you for murder. Not a done murder, a future murder. How would you feel? You may have felt you were not capable of murder, it could have been a spur of the moment murder, it could have been a complete accident or maybe it was planned and done in cold blood. Whichever way the murder would have turned out, the fact is you are being arrested and imprisoned for something you haven't done... Yet not a single murder has occurred in six years.
Steven Spielberg draws you into yet another futuristic fantasy world. A world where cars run along magnetic tracks, and can be controlled by authorities, where advertising can identify you simply by a retina scan and remember your recent purchases and target your certain needs with products. A world where three genetically mutated "humans" are able to see murders in dreams and relay their thoughts to police authorities for them to act upon. A world where a criminal and victim are identified by lottery style wooden balls. And the world is fantastic.
Think of this world, where people are being deprived of great freedom, think of the ethics behind it. Would he have killed in the end? Have we got freedom to do whatever we want, or are our lives already written in a way which means it's not going to happen? Is it right to arrest someone for something they haven't done, even if they will do it? How can we be sure? So many questions so many possible answers, but John Anderton has full belief in the system... until it hunts it's own.
A vision reveals he is going to kill a man he's never heard of. He runs from the law. Everyone runs. He is sent on a desperate journey jumping "Frogger" style from car tops to another, escaping robotic spiders made to retina scan people; no matter what they are doing (making love, arguing, sitting on the toilet..). He wants to clear his name for a crime he has not committed. A crime that he has been set up for. What follows is one of the most fantastic science fiction films I have ever seen. The only slight moan I have to make about is the "pre-cogs" themselves who predict the future. The three of them seemed out of place in this beautifully possible future scenario. I don't think science can tell the future in this way... but I could be proven wrong.
The way the story was unraveled was fantastically skilled. It was one of those films where the whole story becomes untangled in a spectacular way. I can't really say more, you will have to see it yourself to see what I mean. It's one of those films you come out of with a smile on your face, and a mind buzzing full of questions and "woahs". I was dazzled and kept on the edge of my seat for the 2 and a bit hours I watched this for on Tuesday. Well worth my time.
One of Spielbergs best films in my opinion, since Jurassic Park. I think he's hit the nail on the head here. Bladerunner eat your heart out.
Steven Spielberg draws you into yet another futuristic fantasy world. A world where cars run along magnetic tracks, and can be controlled by authorities, where advertising can identify you simply by a retina scan and remember your recent purchases and target your certain needs with products. A world where three genetically mutated "humans" are able to see murders in dreams and relay their thoughts to police authorities for them to act upon. A world where a criminal and victim are identified by lottery style wooden balls. And the world is fantastic.
Think of this world, where people are being deprived of great freedom, think of the ethics behind it. Would he have killed in the end? Have we got freedom to do whatever we want, or are our lives already written in a way which means it's not going to happen? Is it right to arrest someone for something they haven't done, even if they will do it? How can we be sure? So many questions so many possible answers, but John Anderton has full belief in the system... until it hunts it's own.
A vision reveals he is going to kill a man he's never heard of. He runs from the law. Everyone runs. He is sent on a desperate journey jumping "Frogger" style from car tops to another, escaping robotic spiders made to retina scan people; no matter what they are doing (making love, arguing, sitting on the toilet..). He wants to clear his name for a crime he has not committed. A crime that he has been set up for. What follows is one of the most fantastic science fiction films I have ever seen. The only slight moan I have to make about is the "pre-cogs" themselves who predict the future. The three of them seemed out of place in this beautifully possible future scenario. I don't think science can tell the future in this way... but I could be proven wrong.
The way the story was unraveled was fantastically skilled. It was one of those films where the whole story becomes untangled in a spectacular way. I can't really say more, you will have to see it yourself to see what I mean. It's one of those films you come out of with a smile on your face, and a mind buzzing full of questions and "woahs". I was dazzled and kept on the edge of my seat for the 2 and a bit hours I watched this for on Tuesday. Well worth my time.
One of Spielbergs best films in my opinion, since Jurassic Park. I think he's hit the nail on the head here. Bladerunner eat your heart out.
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Does no-one else have a massive problem with the ending?
It's exactly like AI. Speilburg puts out a pretty good storyline around a philosophical question, then wrecks it with a crap ending.
They should just have cut after the first big twist - when SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
the inspection dude gets shot. That would have been fitting.
But no, they have to make it happy.
It's exactly like AI. Speilburg puts out a pretty good storyline around a philosophical question, then wrecks it with a crap ending.
They should just have cut after the first big twist - when SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
the inspection dude gets shot. That would have been fitting.
But no, they have to make it happy.
I've always wanted to see the original verson of Bladerunner but I never have.
Does the ending not take place in daytime? I remember reading that somewhere and since the rest of the film takes place at night, it seemed a bit out of place. That's what I read by the way, not what I think since I haven't seen it.
I've looked everywhere but it's always the director's cut. On DVD at least.
Does the ending not take place in daytime? I remember reading that somewhere and since the rest of the film takes place at night, it seemed a bit out of place. That's what I read by the way, not what I think since I haven't seen it.
I've looked everywhere but it's always the director's cut. On DVD at least.
went and seen minority report last night, good film.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> The ending of the Director's cut is pretty gay. But still most people
> prefer is for some reason, probably just for the justification that it
> was the director's vision. Nevermind how completely irrelevant it is
> in comparison to the book it's supposed to be based on.
What was the ending in the original? I thought the directors cut had a pants ending. To be honest I didn't like Bladerunner at all, maybe I should have seen the original first...
> The ending of the Director's cut is pretty gay. But still most people
> prefer is for some reason, probably just for the justification that it
> was the director's vision. Nevermind how completely irrelevant it is
> in comparison to the book it's supposed to be based on.
What was the ending in the original? I thought the directors cut had a pants ending. To be honest I didn't like Bladerunner at all, maybe I should have seen the original first...
Rakuga wrote:
> Is the original Bladerunner better than the Directors cut? As I
> watched the Directors Cut and to be honest didn't like it... Everyone
> said it was amazing, and I wasn't sure what to think at the end. I
> imagined it to be different.
I prefered the original. The director's cut took out the voiceover. A lot of people say the voiceover was "cheesy", but it added some depth and detail to the characters encountered in the film.
The ending of the Director's cut is pretty gay. But still most people prefer is for some reason, probably just for the justification that it was the director's vision. Nevermind how completely irrelevant it is in comparison to the book it's supposed to be based on.
> Is the original Bladerunner better than the Directors cut? As I
> watched the Directors Cut and to be honest didn't like it... Everyone
> said it was amazing, and I wasn't sure what to think at the end. I
> imagined it to be different.
I prefered the original. The director's cut took out the voiceover. A lot of people say the voiceover was "cheesy", but it added some depth and detail to the characters encountered in the film.
The ending of the Director's cut is pretty gay. But still most people prefer is for some reason, probably just for the justification that it was the director's vision. Nevermind how completely irrelevant it is in comparison to the book it's supposed to be based on.
The only problem I had with Minority report was the post-case treatment.
I mean, technically, nothing is done, but these people get sentenced for murder. Sure they were GOING to do it, but they didn't, so surely the best possible charge would be attempted murder?
And even so, once the system is in place, no fool will plot a murder, so most crimes are crimes of passion. These people don't need jail time, they just need help with their lives. In my opinion, were such a system ever devised, the culprits should be judged on the case in hand; ie blatant evil murderers go indefinitely to jail. Planned murders would generate a hefty sentence, but crimes of passion should be treated with psychological and sociological help.
I mean, technically, nothing is done, but these people get sentenced for murder. Sure they were GOING to do it, but they didn't, so surely the best possible charge would be attempted murder?
And even so, once the system is in place, no fool will plot a murder, so most crimes are crimes of passion. These people don't need jail time, they just need help with their lives. In my opinion, were such a system ever devised, the culprits should be judged on the case in hand; ie blatant evil murderers go indefinitely to jail. Planned murders would generate a hefty sentence, but crimes of passion should be treated with psychological and sociological help.
I liked this, very much. I also liked the fact that Cruise's character wasn't a particularly nice guy - he was a drug user, and essentially, a murderer. Apart from the Spielberg customary spoonful of schmaltz, the ending was ace too, where they have to let all the criminals go because of just a few wrong predictions. Very cool.
Is the original Bladerunner better than the Directors cut? As I watched the Directors Cut and to be honest didn't like it... Everyone said it was amazing, and I wasn't sure what to think at the end. I imagined it to be different.
Vottanator wrote:
> Yeah but that would completely defeat the meaning of PRE-crime. It
> would be more post-crime and then murder levels wouldn't drop. They
> should have just kept the system. Even if they did make the
> occassional mistake, they'd be saving a lot more lives than they'd be
> ruining. And it seemed as if you could only change your future if you
> know what your future was. Seeing as not many people would know their
> future, they wouldn't have a choice.
>
> Keep that damn system I say!
I disagree. Screw the system! If people know they are going to get caught, they won't murder.... those who do get caught. I don't know. Let the Tony Blairs of this world decide, then we'll complain to him whatever they decide.
> Yeah but that would completely defeat the meaning of PRE-crime. It
> would be more post-crime and then murder levels wouldn't drop. They
> should have just kept the system. Even if they did make the
> occassional mistake, they'd be saving a lot more lives than they'd be
> ruining. And it seemed as if you could only change your future if you
> know what your future was. Seeing as not many people would know their
> future, they wouldn't have a choice.
>
> Keep that damn system I say!
I disagree. Screw the system! If people know they are going to get caught, they won't murder.... those who do get caught. I don't know. Let the Tony Blairs of this world decide, then we'll complain to him whatever they decide.
Yeah but that would completely defeat the meaning of PRE-crime. It would be more post-crime and then murder levels wouldn't drop. They should have just kept the system. Even if they did make the occassional mistake, they'd be saving a lot more lives than they'd be ruining. And it seemed as if you could only change your future if you know what your future was. Seeing as not many people would know their future, they wouldn't have a choice.
Keep that damn system I say!
And did the ending not remind you of The Fugitive?
Keep that damn system I say!
And did the ending not remind you of The Fugitive?
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