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It seems very unlikely that a seemingly capitalist company such as Nintendo could actually be pro-communist. Nintendo seems to be the gaming giant who have just about monopolised the games market with their handheld devices and their television games-consoles. So what's the link with communism?
You'll need to go back...back to when Super Mario Bros was a brand new game in all it's 8-bit glory. Mario was just a short fat plumber, his brother looking just the same as him in different coloured dungarees and a princess always being held prisoner by the King of the Koopas. You still think that sounds harmless enough? Think again.
First of all lets think back to what Mario wears. Red dungarees, a red hat, brown shirt and brown shoes. Ok, he's not entirely red (red being the symbol for communism), however, when he collects that fire-flower, anything that wasn't red, turns red, whilst everything else turns white. So, although he doesn't wear all his red clothes all the time, he does have a red item of clothing for every part of his body.
Lets look at the rest of his appearance now. Ok, we can't as there isn't a way of submitting pictures on here, but I'm sure you can visualise the original look of Mario. His facial features are very similar to those of Stalin, Russia's ruthless leader of the early century who brought Russia into the cold war. Stalin was considered as a communist 'super' man, and Mario seems to fit that picture perfectly, dressed in red with a 'tasche and having the name 'Super' Mario.
Can you remember what happened every time you completed a level of Super Mario Bros? Mario pulls down that flag with the green 'skull' on it, walks into the fortress and puts up a flag with a red star on it. If you look carefully, that green 'skull' looks more like the 'peace' symbol. Super Mario conquers the fortress, shows his protest against peace and raises his own communist flag (the red star).
Are Mario's intentions really honourable though? After all, Bowser is a king! So Bowser, under the laws of the land, imprisons Princess Toadstool and her toad followers, and Mario tries to free her in a bloodthirsty attempt at storming each fortress, killing all the king's defenders, until he finds her. Mario is, just like Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks, overthrowing a government! Is it really Mario's aims to rescue the princess?
Now I hope none of you are starting to think I'm serious. I only noticed these links when I was working on a history presentation (I was up til 2am last night) on Stalin, and came across a web page which mentioned some of the above similarities. Infact, as soon as Mario went to the Super NES in Super Mario Allstars, he wore blue dungarees and a red shirt, and the red star was re-coloured to green. It's just looking at it in a certain perspective can almost make you believe, til you realise that the NES could only handly a limited range of colours, and then it doesn't suprise you. Just a reminder, it's fun not fact :)
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You'll need to go back...back to when Super Mario Bros was a brand new game in all it's 8-bit glory. Mario was just a short fat plumber, his brother looking just the same as him in different coloured dungarees and a princess always being held prisoner by the King of the Koopas. You still think that sounds harmless enough? Think again.
First of all lets think back to what Mario wears. Red dungarees, a red hat, brown shirt and brown shoes. Ok, he's not entirely red (red being the symbol for communism), however, when he collects that fire-flower, anything that wasn't red, turns red, whilst everything else turns white. So, although he doesn't wear all his red clothes all the time, he does have a red item of clothing for every part of his body.
Lets look at the rest of his appearance now. Ok, we can't as there isn't a way of submitting pictures on here, but I'm sure you can visualise the original look of Mario. His facial features are very similar to those of Stalin, Russia's ruthless leader of the early century who brought Russia into the cold war. Stalin was considered as a communist 'super' man, and Mario seems to fit that picture perfectly, dressed in red with a 'tasche and having the name 'Super' Mario.
Can you remember what happened every time you completed a level of Super Mario Bros? Mario pulls down that flag with the green 'skull' on it, walks into the fortress and puts up a flag with a red star on it. If you look carefully, that green 'skull' looks more like the 'peace' symbol. Super Mario conquers the fortress, shows his protest against peace and raises his own communist flag (the red star).
Are Mario's intentions really honourable though? After all, Bowser is a king! So Bowser, under the laws of the land, imprisons Princess Toadstool and her toad followers, and Mario tries to free her in a bloodthirsty attempt at storming each fortress, killing all the king's defenders, until he finds her. Mario is, just like Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks, overthrowing a government! Is it really Mario's aims to rescue the princess?
Now I hope none of you are starting to think I'm serious. I only noticed these links when I was working on a history presentation (I was up til 2am last night) on Stalin, and came across a web page which mentioned some of the above similarities. Infact, as soon as Mario went to the Super NES in Super Mario Allstars, he wore blue dungarees and a red shirt, and the red star was re-coloured to green. It's just looking at it in a certain perspective can almost make you believe, til you realise that the NES could only handly a limited range of colours, and then it doesn't suprise you. Just a reminder, it's fun not fact :)
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I remember that..."Link...he come to town...come to save...da princess zelda...ganon took her away....now the children wont play...until link, link saves the day...." (or something like that)
Been a while since I heard that mind...
(note to self, stop using three dots all the time...)
Been a while since I heard that mind...
(note to self, stop using three dots all the time...)
Edgy is right, Communist band System of a Down did a song for the Legend of Zelda.
lol, don't think I believe in that link between Mario and communism. I was just joking around after noticing one or two links between Mario and Joseph Stalin (whom I had to do a presentation on in school).
Very ...er... interesting post there Edgy.
P.S. Are you insinuatnig that all Russians are fat? Also, if the red of Mario represents Communism, what does the the green of Luigi represent? Environmental awareness?
:D
P.S. Are you insinuatnig that all Russians are fat? Also, if the red of Mario represents Communism, what does the the green of Luigi represent? Environmental awareness?
:D
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errrm - I think I'll pass...
errrm - I think I'll pass...
It seems very unlikely that a seemingly capitalist company such as Nintendo could actually be pro-communist. Nintendo seems to be the gaming giant who have just about monopolised the games market with their handheld devices and their television games-consoles. So what's the link with communism?
You'll need to go back...back to when Super Mario Bros was a brand new game in all it's 8-bit glory. Mario was just a short fat plumber, his brother looking just the same as him in different coloured dungarees and a princess always being held prisoner by the King of the Koopas. You still think that sounds harmless enough? Think again.
First of all lets think back to what Mario wears. Red dungarees, a red hat, brown shirt and brown shoes. Ok, he's not entirely red (red being the symbol for communism), however, when he collects that fire-flower, anything that wasn't red, turns red, whilst everything else turns white. So, although he doesn't wear all his red clothes all the time, he does have a red item of clothing for every part of his body.
Lets look at the rest of his appearance now. Ok, we can't as there isn't a way of submitting pictures on here, but I'm sure you can visualise the original look of Mario. His facial features are very similar to those of Stalin, Russia's ruthless leader of the early century who brought Russia into the cold war. Stalin was considered as a communist 'super' man, and Mario seems to fit that picture perfectly, dressed in red with a 'tasche and having the name 'Super' Mario.
Can you remember what happened every time you completed a level of Super Mario Bros? Mario pulls down that flag with the green 'skull' on it, walks into the fortress and puts up a flag with a red star on it. If you look carefully, that green 'skull' looks more like the 'peace' symbol. Super Mario conquers the fortress, shows his protest against peace and raises his own communist flag (the red star).
Are Mario's intentions really honourable though? After all, Bowser is a king! So Bowser, under the laws of the land, imprisons Princess Toadstool and her toad followers, and Mario tries to free her in a bloodthirsty attempt at storming each fortress, killing all the king's defenders, until he finds her. Mario is, just like Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks, overthrowing a government! Is it really Mario's aims to rescue the princess?
Now I hope none of you are starting to think I'm serious. I only noticed these links when I was working on a history presentation (I was up til 2am last night) on Stalin, and came across a web page which mentioned some of the above similarities. Infact, as soon as Mario went to the Super NES in Super Mario Allstars, he wore blue dungarees and a red shirt, and the red star was re-coloured to green. It's just looking at it in a certain perspective can almost make you believe, til you realise that the NES could only handly a limited range of colours, and then it doesn't suprise you. Just a reminder, it's fun not fact :)
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You'll need to go back...back to when Super Mario Bros was a brand new game in all it's 8-bit glory. Mario was just a short fat plumber, his brother looking just the same as him in different coloured dungarees and a princess always being held prisoner by the King of the Koopas. You still think that sounds harmless enough? Think again.
First of all lets think back to what Mario wears. Red dungarees, a red hat, brown shirt and brown shoes. Ok, he's not entirely red (red being the symbol for communism), however, when he collects that fire-flower, anything that wasn't red, turns red, whilst everything else turns white. So, although he doesn't wear all his red clothes all the time, he does have a red item of clothing for every part of his body.
Lets look at the rest of his appearance now. Ok, we can't as there isn't a way of submitting pictures on here, but I'm sure you can visualise the original look of Mario. His facial features are very similar to those of Stalin, Russia's ruthless leader of the early century who brought Russia into the cold war. Stalin was considered as a communist 'super' man, and Mario seems to fit that picture perfectly, dressed in red with a 'tasche and having the name 'Super' Mario.
Can you remember what happened every time you completed a level of Super Mario Bros? Mario pulls down that flag with the green 'skull' on it, walks into the fortress and puts up a flag with a red star on it. If you look carefully, that green 'skull' looks more like the 'peace' symbol. Super Mario conquers the fortress, shows his protest against peace and raises his own communist flag (the red star).
Are Mario's intentions really honourable though? After all, Bowser is a king! So Bowser, under the laws of the land, imprisons Princess Toadstool and her toad followers, and Mario tries to free her in a bloodthirsty attempt at storming each fortress, killing all the king's defenders, until he finds her. Mario is, just like Stalin, Lenin and the Bolsheviks, overthrowing a government! Is it really Mario's aims to rescue the princess?
Now I hope none of you are starting to think I'm serious. I only noticed these links when I was working on a history presentation (I was up til 2am last night) on Stalin, and came across a web page which mentioned some of the above similarities. Infact, as soon as Mario went to the Super NES in Super Mario Allstars, he wore blue dungarees and a red shirt, and the red star was re-coloured to green. It's just looking at it in a certain perspective can almost make you believe, til you realise that the NES could only handly a limited range of colours, and then it doesn't suprise you. Just a reminder, it's fun not fact :)
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