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It seems to me that game manufactures and the manufactures of the next generation consoles are using their influence to add “extras” to games when ported to their consoles. Thus making them better than their previous incarnation. Making their consoles more attractive to console buyers and who suffers the most from this, us. Is it me or does this seem more than slightly unfair?
If I go out and buy the new Spider-man game for the PS2 and Gamecube, I get the standard game. If I should spend the same amount of money and buy the X-box version I get extra levels and an extra villain. Why are the owners of the X-box granted with extras for this game when people with PS2’s and Gamecube’s have the preverbal wool pulled over their eyes because they haven’t contributed to the Microsoft Corporation? They’ve gotten enough money out of me as it is and my computer still doesn’t work properly!!! This game was released at the same time on all consoles so I don’t see why one version should get more than the other.
Another example is Onimusha. I paid the £45 for Onimusha for my PS2 when it first came out. Then I find out that they’ve made a special edition called Gema Onimusha for the X-box. This isn’t just a game with a few extras put it; pretty much the whole game has been tampered with. The enemies now fight for souls and when they acquire enough they change into stronger enemies, hence a new array of enemies to fight. New items and even a whole new area have been added. I paid (more than enough) money for this game so don’t I deserve these extras? The answer is no, basically because I own the wrong console and I bought the game at the wrong time.
There are numerous other examples of these extras being added to later releases of the same game on different platforms. To me it seems unfair but also slightly unavoidable to some degree. Makers of games sometimes feel forced to add extras to ported games so that the games aren’t classed as the same but this time appearing on “this” console, like the port of Soldier of Fortune to the PS2. It wasn’t received well because its just a straight jump from PC to PS2 and nothing new has been added to the game itself and Soldier of Fortune is quite an old game now. But I would be happy to sit tight for a month or two so that I would get the same game as other platforms while paying the same amount of money.
I can see why they add extras but I think it’s unfair.
Darkreaper
If I go out and buy the new Spider-man game for the PS2 and Gamecube, I get the standard game. If I should spend the same amount of money and buy the X-box version I get extra levels and an extra villain. Why are the owners of the X-box granted with extras for this game when people with PS2’s and Gamecube’s have the preverbal wool pulled over their eyes because they haven’t contributed to the Microsoft Corporation? They’ve gotten enough money out of me as it is and my computer still doesn’t work properly!!! This game was released at the same time on all consoles so I don’t see why one version should get more than the other.
Another example is Onimusha. I paid the £45 for Onimusha for my PS2 when it first came out. Then I find out that they’ve made a special edition called Gema Onimusha for the X-box. This isn’t just a game with a few extras put it; pretty much the whole game has been tampered with. The enemies now fight for souls and when they acquire enough they change into stronger enemies, hence a new array of enemies to fight. New items and even a whole new area have been added. I paid (more than enough) money for this game so don’t I deserve these extras? The answer is no, basically because I own the wrong console and I bought the game at the wrong time.
There are numerous other examples of these extras being added to later releases of the same game on different platforms. To me it seems unfair but also slightly unavoidable to some degree. Makers of games sometimes feel forced to add extras to ported games so that the games aren’t classed as the same but this time appearing on “this” console, like the port of Soldier of Fortune to the PS2. It wasn’t received well because its just a straight jump from PC to PS2 and nothing new has been added to the game itself and Soldier of Fortune is quite an old game now. But I would be happy to sit tight for a month or two so that I would get the same game as other platforms while paying the same amount of money.
I can see why they add extras but I think it’s unfair.
Darkreaper
You might think that it's unfair that an old PS2 game gets extra's on the Xbox, but the Xbox owners are obviously ticked off for having to wait so long for it after the PS2 version came out.
I personally think that it's a fair trade.
You can get it months before your friends or get an enhanced version.
It's your call.
I personally think that it's a fair trade.
You can get it months before your friends or get an enhanced version.
It's your call.
I think that uniform ports for all consoles is a wasted opportunity. Each console has different components and as such should be treated differently, each developer should be trying to optimise each port for that console and use the hardware to the best of their ability.
Darkreaper wrote:
> There are numerous other examples of these extras being added to later
> releases of the same game on different platforms.
I think thats the important point...
Theres always more a developer would like to add to a game... or some part of the gameplay they would like to tweak, or since have discovered would have worked a little better another way.
A game thats released for the X-Box a while after its been avalible for the PS2 needs an incentive for buyers to pick up the title... Who wants to pay full whack for a dated title? ... (after all you have already been playing the game for 6+ moths already)
If the machine offers extra attributes to exploit (e.g. HDD), or designers have had more time to develop a further level or two... Then I think they should take advantage of this?
I would seem to be much more of a ruthless,opportunistic, or just lazy atttitude for developers just to release a straight port of whats been done before.
Its not a personal thing... they arn't doing it just to spite you... honest! :)
> There are numerous other examples of these extras being added to later
> releases of the same game on different platforms.
I think thats the important point...
Theres always more a developer would like to add to a game... or some part of the gameplay they would like to tweak, or since have discovered would have worked a little better another way.
A game thats released for the X-Box a while after its been avalible for the PS2 needs an incentive for buyers to pick up the title... Who wants to pay full whack for a dated title? ... (after all you have already been playing the game for 6+ moths already)
If the machine offers extra attributes to exploit (e.g. HDD), or designers have had more time to develop a further level or two... Then I think they should take advantage of this?
I would seem to be much more of a ruthless,opportunistic, or just lazy atttitude for developers just to release a straight port of whats been done before.
Its not a personal thing... they arn't doing it just to spite you... honest! :)
when things like that happen (most recently on the X-Box) I think of them as cheats.
Take GTA3 for instance. It has enough cheats to fill ten games but after a length of time they will get boring.
So think of these little extras as cheats and just small tidbits to make the consumor buy for that console.
But i do see your point.
Take GTA3 for instance. It has enough cheats to fill ten games but after a length of time they will get boring.
So think of these little extras as cheats and just small tidbits to make the consumor buy for that console.
But i do see your point.
It seems to me that game manufactures and the manufactures of the next generation consoles are using their influence to add “extras” to games when ported to their consoles. Thus making them better than their previous incarnation. Making their consoles more attractive to console buyers and who suffers the most from this, us. Is it me or does this seem more than slightly unfair?
If I go out and buy the new Spider-man game for the PS2 and Gamecube, I get the standard game. If I should spend the same amount of money and buy the X-box version I get extra levels and an extra villain. Why are the owners of the X-box granted with extras for this game when people with PS2’s and Gamecube’s have the preverbal wool pulled over their eyes because they haven’t contributed to the Microsoft Corporation? They’ve gotten enough money out of me as it is and my computer still doesn’t work properly!!! This game was released at the same time on all consoles so I don’t see why one version should get more than the other.
Another example is Onimusha. I paid the £45 for Onimusha for my PS2 when it first came out. Then I find out that they’ve made a special edition called Gema Onimusha for the X-box. This isn’t just a game with a few extras put it; pretty much the whole game has been tampered with. The enemies now fight for souls and when they acquire enough they change into stronger enemies, hence a new array of enemies to fight. New items and even a whole new area have been added. I paid (more than enough) money for this game so don’t I deserve these extras? The answer is no, basically because I own the wrong console and I bought the game at the wrong time.
There are numerous other examples of these extras being added to later releases of the same game on different platforms. To me it seems unfair but also slightly unavoidable to some degree. Makers of games sometimes feel forced to add extras to ported games so that the games aren’t classed as the same but this time appearing on “this” console, like the port of Soldier of Fortune to the PS2. It wasn’t received well because its just a straight jump from PC to PS2 and nothing new has been added to the game itself and Soldier of Fortune is quite an old game now. But I would be happy to sit tight for a month or two so that I would get the same game as other platforms while paying the same amount of money.
I can see why they add extras but I think it’s unfair.
Darkreaper
If I go out and buy the new Spider-man game for the PS2 and Gamecube, I get the standard game. If I should spend the same amount of money and buy the X-box version I get extra levels and an extra villain. Why are the owners of the X-box granted with extras for this game when people with PS2’s and Gamecube’s have the preverbal wool pulled over their eyes because they haven’t contributed to the Microsoft Corporation? They’ve gotten enough money out of me as it is and my computer still doesn’t work properly!!! This game was released at the same time on all consoles so I don’t see why one version should get more than the other.
Another example is Onimusha. I paid the £45 for Onimusha for my PS2 when it first came out. Then I find out that they’ve made a special edition called Gema Onimusha for the X-box. This isn’t just a game with a few extras put it; pretty much the whole game has been tampered with. The enemies now fight for souls and when they acquire enough they change into stronger enemies, hence a new array of enemies to fight. New items and even a whole new area have been added. I paid (more than enough) money for this game so don’t I deserve these extras? The answer is no, basically because I own the wrong console and I bought the game at the wrong time.
There are numerous other examples of these extras being added to later releases of the same game on different platforms. To me it seems unfair but also slightly unavoidable to some degree. Makers of games sometimes feel forced to add extras to ported games so that the games aren’t classed as the same but this time appearing on “this” console, like the port of Soldier of Fortune to the PS2. It wasn’t received well because its just a straight jump from PC to PS2 and nothing new has been added to the game itself and Soldier of Fortune is quite an old game now. But I would be happy to sit tight for a month or two so that I would get the same game as other platforms while paying the same amount of money.
I can see why they add extras but I think it’s unfair.
Darkreaper