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Sat 29/06/02 at 16:07
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There's nothing more rewarding that to finish a game. A long, gruelling and rewarding game. I really enjoy finishing games. Finishing games honestly.

And so naturally I sway away from cheat codes. To the supposed 'hardcore' gamers, cheating is a sin. I don't like cheating, but I can't help seeing the merits of cheating. Of course, cheating does ruin the gaming experience - what is there to play for when you've unlocked it all at the press of a few buttons? Well, in certain games, there is a lot.

My sister's boyfriend was planning on buying a PS2, but he wanted to try mine first. So I gave him a go on GTA3, and he asked for the cheat codes. I wouldn't tell him at first because I said he'd find the game boring, but eventually I cracked and he was soon hooning around in the tank. The thing is, before this he was cruising in one of the crappy civilian cars, having minimal fun due to lack of weapons, money and fast cars. While the cheating probably took away hours of gameplay, it wouldn't have affected him because it was just a quick blast.

This kind of spontaneous, reward-reaping ten minute blast might be bending the rules, but it is still brilliantly fun. You see, cheating only kills the fun if its in games like Final Fantasy, where you aren't supposed to cheat, and you only can cheat via a cheat cartridge.

Long games, ones where you improve as you progress, build up player attributes and generally have fun doing it are ruined by cheating. What fun could you get out of having players with 9,999 HP against the very first boss of Final Fantasy 7? In all reality? I mean, COME ON. Personally, I think that 40 hours of continuously tapping the X button to kill all the enemies isn't much fun.

But then again, if you were to cheat in games like Grand Theft Auto 3, it would still be brilliant fun. The thing is, games like GTA3 are made to be fun no matter what - just roaming around shooting people is fun, and consequently no matter how many cheats you use, it is still a right royal laugh.

So cheating isn't necessarily bad. I doubt that anybody has ever completely finished a game like Tony Hawk's 2 or 3 properly, officially and honestly. I completed Tony Hawk's 2 on the GameBoy Advance on my own, properly, with every character. I felt really, really pleased with myself. Guess what? I lent it to my friend whose brother 'accidentally' saved a new career. Save gone. Levels gone. Attributes, all, gone. So what did I do to gain it all again?
Doesn't take a genius to figure out...

Cheat codes are a sin to gamers, but what could be wrong with wanting to enhance the fun. Sure, cheating in story-based character improving games are pointless, and invincibility cheats are not fun unless it involves serious carnage, but answer me this - would you ever spend twenty hours repeating the same old tasks and challenges over and over to unlock something which you could gain from a simple cheat code?

I thought not.
Sun 30/06/02 at 22:09
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Cheats should be used appropiately.

Using them so you can boast about completing a game is off.
Using them to relax and toy with the game in a way that you could normally is both respectable and fun.
Sun 30/06/02 at 16:08
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I feel that if a developer includes a cheat menu, or type-in cheats, they're there to be exploited. I think the ones included in GTA3 are a good example of cheats implemented purely for fun - they don't complete the game for you and even with them on its a blast to play and finish.
Sun 30/06/02 at 16:03
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Posts: 5,630
Good points raised there. I feel that if I cheat during a game then I never really get my full money's worth - you are literally 'cheat'ing yourself of £40 or whatever. However, whilst I personally condemn the use of cheats during the game, I don't see any problem with unlocking humourous style cheats once you have genuinly completed it - like in Goldeneye. This can add longevity to a game and make old level have a new lease of life.

Good post. :D
Sat 29/06/02 at 22:17
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I used cheats once my friend told me how amazing the Rodney Mullen video was. And it was worth it. If you haven't seen that video, you're missing out on a whole lot of wow-factor.
Sat 29/06/02 at 17:28
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Posts: 5,237
I never entered one cheat code on THPS2 on the Dreamcast. I completed it with every character fairly. I used some of the cheats I unlocked by completing various tasks for fun, but I never turned them on to actually help me to do soemthing I couldn't do.

I got almost every gap, except the ones on Skate Heaven. And why? Because I believe you needed to put on the low gravity cheat to get most of them. There were 70 odd gapos on that level and I managed to find about 5. I probably would have put on that cheat in the end but I just lost interest so I never got to see the final character (Trixie or something).

However, when I got to THPS3 I just found it so boring! I had played number 2 to death and I found number 3 almost identical apart from the 'revert' thing. I borrowed it off a mate, completed it with a couple of characters and then got bored. I had it in my mind to put in the cheat to unlock everything just so I could see it all and it wouldn't exaclty spoil it for me since I was never planning on buying it anyway. However, I just never got round to entering the cheat because I never put in the game again. :-D

Not sure what that says, but it may be interesting....
Sat 29/06/02 at 16:07
Regular
"¬_¬"
Posts: 3,110
There's nothing more rewarding that to finish a game. A long, gruelling and rewarding game. I really enjoy finishing games. Finishing games honestly.

And so naturally I sway away from cheat codes. To the supposed 'hardcore' gamers, cheating is a sin. I don't like cheating, but I can't help seeing the merits of cheating. Of course, cheating does ruin the gaming experience - what is there to play for when you've unlocked it all at the press of a few buttons? Well, in certain games, there is a lot.

My sister's boyfriend was planning on buying a PS2, but he wanted to try mine first. So I gave him a go on GTA3, and he asked for the cheat codes. I wouldn't tell him at first because I said he'd find the game boring, but eventually I cracked and he was soon hooning around in the tank. The thing is, before this he was cruising in one of the crappy civilian cars, having minimal fun due to lack of weapons, money and fast cars. While the cheating probably took away hours of gameplay, it wouldn't have affected him because it was just a quick blast.

This kind of spontaneous, reward-reaping ten minute blast might be bending the rules, but it is still brilliantly fun. You see, cheating only kills the fun if its in games like Final Fantasy, where you aren't supposed to cheat, and you only can cheat via a cheat cartridge.

Long games, ones where you improve as you progress, build up player attributes and generally have fun doing it are ruined by cheating. What fun could you get out of having players with 9,999 HP against the very first boss of Final Fantasy 7? In all reality? I mean, COME ON. Personally, I think that 40 hours of continuously tapping the X button to kill all the enemies isn't much fun.

But then again, if you were to cheat in games like Grand Theft Auto 3, it would still be brilliant fun. The thing is, games like GTA3 are made to be fun no matter what - just roaming around shooting people is fun, and consequently no matter how many cheats you use, it is still a right royal laugh.

So cheating isn't necessarily bad. I doubt that anybody has ever completely finished a game like Tony Hawk's 2 or 3 properly, officially and honestly. I completed Tony Hawk's 2 on the GameBoy Advance on my own, properly, with every character. I felt really, really pleased with myself. Guess what? I lent it to my friend whose brother 'accidentally' saved a new career. Save gone. Levels gone. Attributes, all, gone. So what did I do to gain it all again?
Doesn't take a genius to figure out...

Cheat codes are a sin to gamers, but what could be wrong with wanting to enhance the fun. Sure, cheating in story-based character improving games are pointless, and invincibility cheats are not fun unless it involves serious carnage, but answer me this - would you ever spend twenty hours repeating the same old tasks and challenges over and over to unlock something which you could gain from a simple cheat code?

I thought not.

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