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Right. I've been temping for quite a while now and about a month ago 2 permanent positions went up for grabs practically doing the same job as I was doing.
Anyway I have a mate here who I managed to get a temp job about 6 months after I got one. It was cool for me cos I didn't really get on with most people here (female and middle aged you see) and I also got a lift in to work every day.
So when these jobs came up we both decided that we would go for them. We knew there would be a lot of competition both internally and externally due to the money and the package they were offering. All in all over 250 people applied for the jobs. Prerequesites for the jobs weren't huge, but you did need A Levels just to get to the interview stage. I knew my mate didn't have any (infact I think he only has one GCSE) and had lied on his application form. I felt a bit weird when he told me this but I shrugged it off and thought else nothing of it.
Needless to say we both got interviews. In fact only 10 people were selected so we both had a good chance. There was one real competition from another temp who was actually doing the job that was up for grabs so we knew really we were really fighting for only one job.
Interviews came and went. Yesterday I found out that the girl who we expected to get the job did, and my mate got the other - according to my boss it was very close between him and me. Needless to say I was gutted... more because he'd got it than the fact I hadn't got the actual job. It wasn't until we were travelling home together that I remembered he had lied on his application form. A lie that meant the difference between getting or not getting to the interview stage, so ultimately deciding whether or not he got the job. A lie that could have cost me a permanent position.
So I'm sat here today feeling a bit better but with this dark cloud hanging over me. I wish he hadn't told me he lied but now I just cant stop thinking about it. I don't know what to do. Do I tell my work and lose him as a mate and possibly get the job? Or do I keep quiet, be happy for him on the outside but have to live knowing I kept my mouth shut for him?
Sweet Jesus someone help me cos this is really getting me down.
Anyway I have a mate here who I managed to get a temp job about 6 months after I got one. It was cool for me cos I didn't really get on with most people here (female and middle aged you see) and I also got a lift in to work every day.
So when these jobs came up we both decided that we would go for them. We knew there would be a lot of competition both internally and externally due to the money and the package they were offering. All in all over 250 people applied for the jobs. Prerequesites for the jobs weren't huge, but you did need A Levels just to get to the interview stage. I knew my mate didn't have any (infact I think he only has one GCSE) and had lied on his application form. I felt a bit weird when he told me this but I shrugged it off and thought else nothing of it.
Needless to say we both got interviews. In fact only 10 people were selected so we both had a good chance. There was one real competition from another temp who was actually doing the job that was up for grabs so we knew really we were really fighting for only one job.
Interviews came and went. Yesterday I found out that the girl who we expected to get the job did, and my mate got the other - according to my boss it was very close between him and me. Needless to say I was gutted... more because he'd got it than the fact I hadn't got the actual job. It wasn't until we were travelling home together that I remembered he had lied on his application form. A lie that meant the difference between getting or not getting to the interview stage, so ultimately deciding whether or not he got the job. A lie that could have cost me a permanent position.
So I'm sat here today feeling a bit better but with this dark cloud hanging over me. I wish he hadn't told me he lied but now I just cant stop thinking about it. I don't know what to do. Do I tell my work and lose him as a mate and possibly get the job? Or do I keep quiet, be happy for him on the outside but have to live knowing I kept my mouth shut for him?
Sweet Jesus someone help me cos this is really getting me down.
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A better job is just around the corner...
And even if it isn't, you know what they say about cheating... "you're only cheating yourself..."
;-)
And even if it isn't, you know what they say about cheating... "you're only cheating yourself..."
;-)
I've gotten over it now. I'm out here gonna find something better and have the last laugh.
As for my mate thats something he'll have to come to terms with himself. Whether he chooses to feel bad over it is up to him. I'm not going to waste my energy on something negative.
Thanks for the advice guys.
As for my mate thats something he'll have to come to terms with himself. Whether he chooses to feel bad over it is up to him. I'm not going to waste my energy on something negative.
Thanks for the advice guys.
you could always create some random e-mail address and mail his employers insinuating they might want to investigate his qualifications...
Just because they investigate him, doesn't mean anyone had to grass him up. It's often a matter of course for companies to do so.
Just because they investigate him, doesn't mean anyone had to grass him up. It's often a matter of course for companies to do so.
If he can do the job well enough, why be bitter about it?
Maybe you think you deserve the job more than him because you have the qualifications, but he clearly had something you didn't - he got the job. If needing the qualifications to get the job was so unimportant that they do not actually realise he doesn't have them, then moaning about it is petty and pointless.
No point in being a Barrack room lawyer, because war is real...
Maybe you think you deserve the job more than him because you have the qualifications, but he clearly had something you didn't - he got the job. If needing the qualifications to get the job was so unimportant that they do not actually realise he doesn't have them, then moaning about it is petty and pointless.
No point in being a Barrack room lawyer, because war is real...
Lord H wrote:
> Two things Craw:
>
> 1) Never, ever, grass on your friends. He got the job cos he lied.
> Well done to him! If he got away with it but he can't do the job
> satisfactorily then he will be found out. If he can do the job then it
> proves that qualifications aren't everything.
I wouldn't grass on a mate. But thats what caused the dilemma... as for him getting the job I dont think lying was the way to do it. Basically he would not have even met the criteria for an interview and its a bitter pill to swallow knowing your mate possibly cheated you out of a job, regardless of how good a friend he is.
>
> 2) Don't blackmail anyone. Just don't. You'll get in as much trouble
> as him......
The blackmail thing was a joke. I aint got the balls to do that. But it would be nice.... heh heh
> Two things Craw:
>
> 1) Never, ever, grass on your friends. He got the job cos he lied.
> Well done to him! If he got away with it but he can't do the job
> satisfactorily then he will be found out. If he can do the job then it
> proves that qualifications aren't everything.
I wouldn't grass on a mate. But thats what caused the dilemma... as for him getting the job I dont think lying was the way to do it. Basically he would not have even met the criteria for an interview and its a bitter pill to swallow knowing your mate possibly cheated you out of a job, regardless of how good a friend he is.
>
> 2) Don't blackmail anyone. Just don't. You'll get in as much trouble
> as him......
The blackmail thing was a joke. I aint got the balls to do that. But it would be nice.... heh heh
That's a bit crap
Errr better to keep mate... but saying that if he was that good a mate surely he would admit he was wrong and give job to you.
Errr better to keep mate... but saying that if he was that good a mate surely he would admit he was wrong and give job to you.
Two things Craw:
1) Never, ever, grass on your friends. He got the job cos he lied. Well done to him! If he got away with it but he can't do the job satisfactorily then he will be found out. If he can do the job then it proves that qualifications aren't everything.
2) Don't blackmail anyone. Just don't. You'll get in as much trouble as him......
1) Never, ever, grass on your friends. He got the job cos he lied. Well done to him! If he got away with it but he can't do the job satisfactorily then he will be found out. If he can do the job then it proves that qualifications aren't everything.
2) Don't blackmail anyone. Just don't. You'll get in as much trouble as him......
Thats the thing you see he made a joke about it this morning. I dont even think he realises the difference it would have made a) had he not lied and b) had he not told me.
I dont want to get into a situation where I'm warning him but at the same time I'd like to remind him that I haven't forgotten.
We've been running a world cup competition in work and he's already suggested we fiddle it so I win the cash - maybe he is feeling guilty..?
Jeez it feels like a woman has come between us.
I dont want to get into a situation where I'm warning him but at the same time I'd like to remind him that I haven't forgotten.
We've been running a world cup competition in work and he's already suggested we fiddle it so I win the cash - maybe he is feeling guilty..?
Jeez it feels like a woman has come between us.
Maybe you should just tell him you're a little annoyed that you didn't get the job when he lied, and don't actually blackmail him... maybe if he knows you are a bit annoyed he'll be nicer to you... and maybe buy you some stuff without you having to blackmail him... or give the agency a percentage ;-)
Barclays
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