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According to Digitiser, Nintendo are releasing a modem with PSO in August in Japan. However, they are not providing servers or stuff like that - oters are......So, do you think Nintendo should stick with this, or go full out into online stuff? I think they are testing the water - ready to move on, or stay put, depending on response........
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Sibs wrote:
> There were rumours at one point that Pikmin 2 would have online
> capabilities... but NInty haven't even confirmed a Pikmin 2 is in the
> works I don't think?
>
> Probably just a rumour sparked from something Shigsy said...
I think pikmin 2 is in the pipeline but wheather it will be online or not is another matter.
> There were rumours at one point that Pikmin 2 would have online
> capabilities... but NInty haven't even confirmed a Pikmin 2 is in the
> works I don't think?
>
> Probably just a rumour sparked from something Shigsy said...
I think pikmin 2 is in the pipeline but wheather it will be online or not is another matter.
There were rumours at one point that Pikmin 2 would have online capabilities... but NInty haven't even confirmed a Pikmin 2 is in the works I don't think?
Probably just a rumour sparked from something Shigsy said...
Probably just a rumour sparked from something Shigsy said...
Nintendo have NO online "plans"! They've been forced into releasing the modem by Sonic Team (makers of PSO)!
It's well known that Yugi Naka, creator of PSO, said at the unveilment of the GC that PSO would be the first online title... even though Miyamoto admitted having no plans. So strong is Sonic Team's involvment in setting up the online game network that it may be the case that Ninty's whole online network is implemented on the back of Sega's DC online network.
Nintendo still don't have any realistically "great" online games (by great, I mean anything better than battelships), and are still being vague about their plans.
But in all honesty, there's nothing wrong with this. Unless Nintendo are going to develop a game that's going to be as popular as FF11 then it won't be viable to create a whole online network.
Sonic
It's well known that Yugi Naka, creator of PSO, said at the unveilment of the GC that PSO would be the first online title... even though Miyamoto admitted having no plans. So strong is Sonic Team's involvment in setting up the online game network that it may be the case that Ninty's whole online network is implemented on the back of Sega's DC online network.
Nintendo still don't have any realistically "great" online games (by great, I mean anything better than battelships), and are still being vague about their plans.
But in all honesty, there's nothing wrong with this. Unless Nintendo are going to develop a game that's going to be as popular as FF11 then it won't be viable to create a whole online network.
Sonic
I think that Nintendo got their online plans just right. I had the Dreamcast, and, having played Chu-Chu, PSO and Quake III online, I can say that I am not interested in online play. I also have a powerful PC with many online capable games, but I never play them online, and here's why:
The biggest problem with online gaming is that no-one ever wants to play.
More than half the people on the PSO servers wanted to chat, and it was extremely difficult to find anyone who wanted to play seriously or who spoke english.
Quake III was alright, but the main problem (apart from lag and the difficulty of finding joinable games) was that it was just the same as playing against bots. Because it's QIII, no one has time to type, so it's silent, and it is 100x better to play multiplayer with 'real' friends. This is the same as on all of my PC shooters, where it is even harder to find a joinable game.
Chu Chu suffered the same problems.
The main problem with online gaming is that it's so hard to get a decent game. It takes so much effort to get started that you might as well not bother, for all the fun you will get (which is not much).
There is no storyline in online games, each one plays out almost the same as the last and it soon becomes repetetive.
When I hear people say "Imagine playing Mario Kart with people from Brazil", I wonder if these people realise how boring playing against people who don't understand you is. It's much easier, cheaper and much, much more fun to play with people who are round your house, and then you can go on to do other things when you get bored with your multiplaying.
I am glad that Nintendo didn't choose to focus on online gamig, because this means that they can concentrate on creating involving, interesting and overall fun games for me, and my friends, to play.
I am open to any constructive criticism, so feel free to comment.
The biggest problem with online gaming is that no-one ever wants to play.
More than half the people on the PSO servers wanted to chat, and it was extremely difficult to find anyone who wanted to play seriously or who spoke english.
Quake III was alright, but the main problem (apart from lag and the difficulty of finding joinable games) was that it was just the same as playing against bots. Because it's QIII, no one has time to type, so it's silent, and it is 100x better to play multiplayer with 'real' friends. This is the same as on all of my PC shooters, where it is even harder to find a joinable game.
Chu Chu suffered the same problems.
The main problem with online gaming is that it's so hard to get a decent game. It takes so much effort to get started that you might as well not bother, for all the fun you will get (which is not much).
There is no storyline in online games, each one plays out almost the same as the last and it soon becomes repetetive.
When I hear people say "Imagine playing Mario Kart with people from Brazil", I wonder if these people realise how boring playing against people who don't understand you is. It's much easier, cheaper and much, much more fun to play with people who are round your house, and then you can go on to do other things when you get bored with your multiplaying.
I am glad that Nintendo didn't choose to focus on online gamig, because this means that they can concentrate on creating involving, interesting and overall fun games for me, and my friends, to play.
I am open to any constructive criticism, so feel free to comment.
Yeah, but will these hosts charge a monthly fee or whatever for their service...? If they do I think few will use the system (in the UK anyway...) simply because most people are now getting the net or being introduced to it on PCs, they don't want to fork out extra for the net on a console too! If it's just call charges, I reckon that'll be fine, but monthly charges will likely be rejected, especially by the younger audience, whose parents aint gonna fork out for ANOTHER phone line/ net connection...
Mario Kart GC online would REALLY start the party though :D
Mario Kart GC online would REALLY start the party though :D
hmmmmm It had to Happen Cube being online that was the idea from the start it even has two usb ports but as i use broadband and have for three years the modems will be of no interest to me what so ever also Blueyonder are talking about increasing there bandwith to 1g equal to a T1 conection with will make it about twice as fast as current 512 and x20 times that of a modem.
The Gamecube is modem for now, but can be upgraded to broadband in the future - Nintendo's options are 100% open.
I think that it is good that Nintendo request companies to serve their own games. Not only will that company know how to serve their game best, it also means (providing that this company serve for Xbox and PS2 owners) multiformat games can be played across formats online.
It also means that although Nintendo leave online gaming open for their users to enjoy, they're not taking any risks either.
EVERYONE'S HAPPY! :-)
I think that it is good that Nintendo request companies to serve their own games. Not only will that company know how to serve their game best, it also means (providing that this company serve for Xbox and PS2 owners) multiformat games can be played across formats online.
It also means that although Nintendo leave online gaming open for their users to enjoy, they're not taking any risks either.
EVERYONE'S HAPPY! :-)
Thing is, if Nintendo don't really stick to broadband, the experience will be like the Dreamcast - good, but dogged with lag when a decent amount of people are using the online play.
I know broadband isn't widely used as much right now, but its still the future, just like online gaming. In my opinion, its better to go in the direction of giving the best service possible rather than just pushing out a half ar5ed effort. I'm not having a go at the Dreamcast, it did well with what it had available. But having the experience of console online gaming with the DC, I think anything less than a broadband connection will leave a lot of players frustrated when they can't get a proper connection or get booted out of a game as the lag gets worse.
I played PSO and Quake 3 a lot online with the DC. I got pretty frustrated paying out the money when most of the time was spent trying to get connected properly or in the case of Quake, contantly getting killed by other players because of bloody lag. I think the number of people on broadband will soon pick up as time goes on. Maybe online gaming on consoles is the boost what broadband needs to get more customers.
I know broadband isn't widely used as much right now, but its still the future, just like online gaming. In my opinion, its better to go in the direction of giving the best service possible rather than just pushing out a half ar5ed effort. I'm not having a go at the Dreamcast, it did well with what it had available. But having the experience of console online gaming with the DC, I think anything less than a broadband connection will leave a lot of players frustrated when they can't get a proper connection or get booted out of a game as the lag gets worse.
I played PSO and Quake 3 a lot online with the DC. I got pretty frustrated paying out the money when most of the time was spent trying to get connected properly or in the case of Quake, contantly getting killed by other players because of bloody lag. I think the number of people on broadband will soon pick up as time goes on. Maybe online gaming on consoles is the boost what broadband needs to get more customers.
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