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From http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002 /hi/team_pages/south_korea/newsid_2054000/2054072.stm
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Perugia have decided not to renew the contract of Ahn Jung-Hwan, the South Korean midfielder whose golden goal knocked Italy out of the World Cup.
Ahn Jung-Hwan, who missed a penalty earlier in the match, was hailed as a national hero in Korea when he headed home the winner in the 116th minute of the second round match.
Perugia chairman Luciano Gaucci linked the non-renewal of Ahn Jung-Hwan's contract to his role in Italy's defeat.
"That gentleman will never set foot in Perugia again," club chairman Luciano Gaucci told sports' daily La Gazzetta dello Sport.
"He was a phenomenon only when he played against Italy.
"I am a nationalist and I regard such behaviour not only as an affront to Italian pride but also an offence to a country which two years ago opened its doors to him.
"I have no intention of paying a salary to someone who has ruined Italian soccer."
But a Perugia spokesman insisted the club had decided to release Ahn even before the World Cup tie.
Ahn Jung-Hwan joined Perugia on loan from the South Korean team Pusan Icons in the summer of 2000, but he scored just five goals in 29 appearances.
Korea's victory has been greeted with fury in Italy, where the referee and soccer's ruling body Fifa have been accused of fixing the match.
Even before scoring his goal, Ahn Jung-Hwan, with his model looks, was a huge celebrity in Korea, the closest thing the Koreans have to David Beckham.
He is married to a former Miss Korea, Lee Hye-Won.
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Perugia have decided not to renew the contract of Ahn Jung-Hwan, the South Korean midfielder whose golden goal knocked Italy out of the World Cup.
Ahn Jung-Hwan, who missed a penalty earlier in the match, was hailed as a national hero in Korea when he headed home the winner in the 116th minute of the second round match.
Perugia chairman Luciano Gaucci linked the non-renewal of Ahn Jung-Hwan's contract to his role in Italy's defeat.
"That gentleman will never set foot in Perugia again," club chairman Luciano Gaucci told sports' daily La Gazzetta dello Sport.
"He was a phenomenon only when he played against Italy.
"I am a nationalist and I regard such behaviour not only as an affront to Italian pride but also an offence to a country which two years ago opened its doors to him.
"I have no intention of paying a salary to someone who has ruined Italian soccer."
But a Perugia spokesman insisted the club had decided to release Ahn even before the World Cup tie.
Ahn Jung-Hwan joined Perugia on loan from the South Korean team Pusan Icons in the summer of 2000, but he scored just five goals in 29 appearances.
Korea's victory has been greeted with fury in Italy, where the referee and soccer's ruling body Fifa have been accused of fixing the match.
Even before scoring his goal, Ahn Jung-Hwan, with his model looks, was a huge celebrity in Korea, the closest thing the Koreans have to David Beckham.
He is married to a former Miss Korea, Lee Hye-Won.
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Off topic...
But loads of quality goals here!
http://www.juverulez.com/goal.php
Found this page while trying to link for the link where Beckham said he would copy the "hand of god" if given the chance...
But loads of quality goals here!
http://www.juverulez.com/goal.php
Found this page while trying to link for the link where Beckham said he would copy the "hand of god" if given the chance...
The words of the Argentine coach, Marcello Bielsa, before the England game.
"I wasn't aware of how they celebrated last time but if they celebrate I want them to celebrate in a sporting manner," said Bielsa.
"Our aspiration is that what happens does so within the limits of fair play.
"The match is only interesting for how we do and not about sending England home. What happens to England is of no interest to me. We are not interested in other teams, we just want to play well ourselves. We respect the England team and this is a good test for us. It is a game of great power with potential for greatness."
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They aint all idiots...
"I wasn't aware of how they celebrated last time but if they celebrate I want them to celebrate in a sporting manner," said Bielsa.
"Our aspiration is that what happens does so within the limits of fair play.
"The match is only interesting for how we do and not about sending England home. What happens to England is of no interest to me. We are not interested in other teams, we just want to play well ourselves. We respect the England team and this is a good test for us. It is a game of great power with potential for greatness."
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They aint all idiots...
Or†ega wrote:
> Ortega was hailed as a national hero after that world cup even though
> he was more/equal directly responsible for Argentina going out of the
> World when compared with the Beckham incident.
Yes, but that's down to the difference between the mentality of the two nations.
In England, such behaviour - Beckham's kick, no matter how tame - is frowned upon as 'dirty' and/or 'cheating'.
In Argentina, similar behaviour - Ortega's headbutt - tends to make you a hero. You only had to see the Argentinian comments before our game with them to know that they think nothing of cheating to win. They don't seem to realise that a victory gained by cheating is not a victory at all.
> Ortega was hailed as a national hero after that world cup even though
> he was more/equal directly responsible for Argentina going out of the
> World when compared with the Beckham incident.
Yes, but that's down to the difference between the mentality of the two nations.
In England, such behaviour - Beckham's kick, no matter how tame - is frowned upon as 'dirty' and/or 'cheating'.
In Argentina, similar behaviour - Ortega's headbutt - tends to make you a hero. You only had to see the Argentinian comments before our game with them to know that they think nothing of cheating to win. They don't seem to realise that a victory gained by cheating is not a victory at all.
Or†ega wrote:
> You can understand thier frustation though, surely.
Yes, I can understand the frustration, but for a club side to sack the scorer of the winning goal is ludicrous. International football has nothing to do with club football.
In any other job, he'd be able to sue for wrongful dismissal.
> You can understand thier frustation though, surely.
Yes, I can understand the frustration, but for a club side to sack the scorer of the winning goal is ludicrous. International football has nothing to do with club football.
In any other job, he'd be able to sue for wrongful dismissal.
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> While the reaction to Beckham's action was admittedly over the top,
> you can at least understand that his own nation would be upset.
> Though being an Argentina fan, I'm surprised you're particularly
> bothered! Maybe if Beckham played for someone else... Arsenal, say...
> you'd have been on the bandwagon too!
Okay, but rewind back to France 98.
Argentina vs Holland 1/4 final. Scores tied at 1-1...Late on in the game...Ortega decides to Headbutt the dutch keeper and rightly gets sent off. Bergkamp goes down the other end and bangs it in to score the winner...
Ortega was hailed as a national hero after that world cup even though he was more/equal directly responsible for Argentina going out of the World when compared with the Beckham incident.
> While the reaction to Beckham's action was admittedly over the top,
> you can at least understand that his own nation would be upset.
> Though being an Argentina fan, I'm surprised you're particularly
> bothered! Maybe if Beckham played for someone else... Arsenal, say...
> you'd have been on the bandwagon too!
Okay, but rewind back to France 98.
Argentina vs Holland 1/4 final. Scores tied at 1-1...Late on in the game...Ortega decides to Headbutt the dutch keeper and rightly gets sent off. Bergkamp goes down the other end and bangs it in to score the winner...
Ortega was hailed as a national hero after that world cup even though he was more/equal directly responsible for Argentina going out of the World when compared with the Beckham incident.
You can understand thier frustation though, surely.
Coco got booked in the 3rd minute of the match for a tackle that was only mis-timed by barely half a second. It was his first challenge of the match and he shoudnt of got booked. You look back to the England Argentina game and see that Batistuta made a worse challenge than that within the first minute and got away with just a warning.
And then you got all these goals that they had disallowed. One against Korea for offside (which the replays showed to be level), and two absolute shockers against Croatia.
Then we got the Totti sending off, a complete joke. The dive wasnt as clear cut as perhaps first thought and contact was defintely made with Totti, he may have gone to ground a bit easy but it was definitely not a blatent dive...
As for the Italians sitting back and defending, sure, they do it all the time, but it was expected more than expected in this game. They were playing against the host nation who had absolutly booming vocal support. And you also have to consider that Italy were missing Cannavaro and Nesta at the heart of thier Defense (two of the best in the world, definitely in Italy anyway)
I'm not saying that Korea didnt deserve it, i'm just looking at the other side of the coin.
Coco got booked in the 3rd minute of the match for a tackle that was only mis-timed by barely half a second. It was his first challenge of the match and he shoudnt of got booked. You look back to the England Argentina game and see that Batistuta made a worse challenge than that within the first minute and got away with just a warning.
And then you got all these goals that they had disallowed. One against Korea for offside (which the replays showed to be level), and two absolute shockers against Croatia.
Then we got the Totti sending off, a complete joke. The dive wasnt as clear cut as perhaps first thought and contact was defintely made with Totti, he may have gone to ground a bit easy but it was definitely not a blatent dive...
As for the Italians sitting back and defending, sure, they do it all the time, but it was expected more than expected in this game. They were playing against the host nation who had absolutly booming vocal support. And you also have to consider that Italy were missing Cannavaro and Nesta at the heart of thier Defense (two of the best in the world, definitely in Italy anyway)
I'm not saying that Korea didnt deserve it, i'm just looking at the other side of the coin.
Or†ega wrote:
> Innit, I must have just drempt the reactions Beckham got back
> "home" in England after France 98. Well, everywhere outside
> of Old Trafford anyway.
Similar in some ways, different in so many. Beckham was vilified by his OWN nation, as he was - rightly or wrongly - seen as being the cause of our exit from the World Cup.
But he wasn't sacked by his club, nor was he "expected" to throw an international match for the sake of his club or an adoptive nation. Nor did anyone here accuse the referee or FIFA of attempting to fix the match.
While the reaction to Beckham's action was admittedly over the top, you can at least understand that his own nation would be upset. Though being an Argentina fan, I'm surprised you're particularly bothered! Maybe if Beckham played for someone else... Arsenal, say... you'd have been on the bandwagon too!
> Understand they are dissapointed, and they have a right to be after
> they were cheated out of the World cup...
And how exactly were they cheated? They scored one goal and, as usual, decided to sit back and take it easy. Liverpool did that for much of last season, and we all called them boring. Italy have gotten away with that for years, and it finally came back to bite them.
Italy had plenty of chances, including a couple of open goals, and didn't take them. Korea were determined and hard working, and I think you'll be hard pushed to find any honest non-Italian who thinks that Korea didn't deserve it!
> Innit, I must have just drempt the reactions Beckham got back
> "home" in England after France 98. Well, everywhere outside
> of Old Trafford anyway.
Similar in some ways, different in so many. Beckham was vilified by his OWN nation, as he was - rightly or wrongly - seen as being the cause of our exit from the World Cup.
But he wasn't sacked by his club, nor was he "expected" to throw an international match for the sake of his club or an adoptive nation. Nor did anyone here accuse the referee or FIFA of attempting to fix the match.
While the reaction to Beckham's action was admittedly over the top, you can at least understand that his own nation would be upset. Though being an Argentina fan, I'm surprised you're particularly bothered! Maybe if Beckham played for someone else... Arsenal, say... you'd have been on the bandwagon too!
> Understand they are dissapointed, and they have a right to be after
> they were cheated out of the World cup...
And how exactly were they cheated? They scored one goal and, as usual, decided to sit back and take it easy. Liverpool did that for much of last season, and we all called them boring. Italy have gotten away with that for years, and it finally came back to bite them.
Italy had plenty of chances, including a couple of open goals, and didn't take them. Korea were determined and hard working, and I think you'll be hard pushed to find any honest non-Italian who thinks that Korea didn't deserve it!
AbsoluT Neó wrote:
> why do we have two of these topics?
Grandprix posted his just after I posted mine.
> why do we have two of these topics?
Grandprix posted his just after I posted mine.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> That's just pathetic. Imagine what would have happened to Petrescu a
> few years back if we were as fickle...
Innit, I must have just drempt the reactions Beckham got back "home" in England after France 98. Well, everywhere outside of Old Trafford anyway.
Although this is some next level stuff by the Italians...Understand they are dissapointed, and they have a right to be after they were cheated out of the World cup...but letting out all his anger on the geezer that scored the goal is bang out of order.
> That's just pathetic. Imagine what would have happened to Petrescu a
> few years back if we were as fickle...
Innit, I must have just drempt the reactions Beckham got back "home" in England after France 98. Well, everywhere outside of Old Trafford anyway.
Although this is some next level stuff by the Italians...Understand they are dissapointed, and they have a right to be after they were cheated out of the World cup...but letting out all his anger on the geezer that scored the goal is bang out of order.
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