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I've just been downloading various things for my shiny new Linux install, and I came upon this stern warning from the creators of Mozilla:
"This source code is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Afghanistan (Taliban controlled areas), Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including Denied Parties, entities on the Bureau of Export Administration Entity List, and Specially Designated Nationals)."
My question is, what DID the Cubans do to deserve this? I realise this is part of America's absurd little war on Cuba, but is source code such a dangerous thing to export? And doesn't it kind of dilute the whole open-source ethic?
Just one of those little things that bugs me...
"This source code is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Afghanistan (Taliban controlled areas), Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including Denied Parties, entities on the Bureau of Export Administration Entity List, and Specially Designated Nationals)."
My question is, what DID the Cubans do to deserve this? I realise this is part of America's absurd little war on Cuba, but is source code such a dangerous thing to export? And doesn't it kind of dilute the whole open-source ethic?
Just one of those little things that bugs me...
This is more of a political point than anything else, part of America's farcical embargo on Cuba. I think that what America does with her products is up to them: if they want to refuse to sell to Cuba, then fair enough. It's stupid, but they can do it if they want to. But surely Mozilla, as an open-source project, took bug reports and fixes from OUTSIDE America. So as a whole Mozilla isn't just American but a genuinely international project.
http://www.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/
http://www.cuba-solidarity.org.uk/
Isn't some software classified as "munitions" under US export laws? Stuff with good encryption and the like. The US doesn't want Cuba (or even it's own citizens I hink) to have strong encryption because it would take them longer to work out what they were saying to each other over the Internet.
Like it really makes a difference, those Cuban bad guys would just find a Warez site and get hold of the stuff anyway.
Like it really makes a difference, those Cuban bad guys would just find a Warez site and get hold of the stuff anyway.
Whooo! wrote:
> It's nothing to do with copyright law, as the US copyright laws dont
> apply in those countries.
Whooo! is right here, it has nothing to do with copyright, nor data, it's all to do with the possiblility of the information being used to aid illegal acts in these countries against others... It's been around for a long time
I spend my life filling in forms to allow me to distribute software across the globe here, you'd be amazed what it covers and what it asks you. It was only last week i did one for a Quicktime distribution and the form goes on to as if you have the ability to make nuclear weaponary? WTF does that have to do with QT?
It even goes as far as book... We're not allowed to distribute books to certain countries...
If you really want to know why... email Quicktime and ask them for an application to distribute the QT player, and then read through the forms.
> It's nothing to do with copyright law, as the US copyright laws dont
> apply in those countries.
Whooo! is right here, it has nothing to do with copyright, nor data, it's all to do with the possiblility of the information being used to aid illegal acts in these countries against others... It's been around for a long time
I spend my life filling in forms to allow me to distribute software across the globe here, you'd be amazed what it covers and what it asks you. It was only last week i did one for a Quicktime distribution and the form goes on to as if you have the ability to make nuclear weaponary? WTF does that have to do with QT?
It even goes as far as book... We're not allowed to distribute books to certain countries...
If you really want to know why... email Quicktime and ask them for an application to distribute the QT player, and then read through the forms.
It's nothing to do with copyright law, as the US copyright laws dont apply in those countries.
You gain no revenue from Linux source, and it's data - which isn't included in US export laws yet.
No it isnt, its an Export ban. Your not allowed to export anything from the US to those countries, Linux Source Code must be included.
It's a copyright thing, in the same way you can't distribute apps with LZW compression (eg, GIF support) inside the US.
I've just been downloading various things for my shiny new Linux install, and I came upon this stern warning from the creators of Mozilla:
"This source code is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Afghanistan (Taliban controlled areas), Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including Denied Parties, entities on the Bureau of Export Administration Entity List, and Specially Designated Nationals)."
My question is, what DID the Cubans do to deserve this? I realise this is part of America's absurd little war on Cuba, but is source code such a dangerous thing to export? And doesn't it kind of dilute the whole open-source ethic?
Just one of those little things that bugs me...
"This source code is subject to the U.S. Export Administration Regulations and other U.S. law, and may not be exported or re-exported to certain countries (currently Afghanistan (Taliban controlled areas), Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) or to persons or entities prohibited from receiving U.S. exports (including Denied Parties, entities on the Bureau of Export Administration Entity List, and Specially Designated Nationals)."
My question is, what DID the Cubans do to deserve this? I realise this is part of America's absurd little war on Cuba, but is source code such a dangerous thing to export? And doesn't it kind of dilute the whole open-source ethic?
Just one of those little things that bugs me...