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Mon 17/06/02 at 02:03
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Come, come, everybody join. I'm beginning to really hate W3C standards, trying to redesign my site and now decided to make it W3C Valid. I've got the problem now in making my site center in the window. Previously, I put everything in another table, made the new table 100% high, and 100% wide and set the valign to middle, and then centered the table with my content in. That would make the content appear in the middle of the page. Sorted. However, now apparently I can't use height in tags, just
tags. Very annoying.

Anyone know a way round this?
Sun 30/06/02 at 21:31
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"l33t cs50r"
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Fog wrote:
> Whooo! wrote:
> I was using HTML 4.0 Transitional to validate it, and in 4.0 you
> can't
> use NAME= tags, sorted it by changing to 4.01
>
> Can you change this on 1st page? I usually just delete it anyway but
> they're becoming quite a fashion statement ;)

These are by no means a "fashin" statement! If you want you HTML to validate and use current tags and standards, these are needed... may i suggest you look into DTD's and what the are for/designed for.

All that lives in the url of the declaration of a DTD is a huge file containing all of the tags current to that version of HTML and how to display them in the browser. If you really clever, you can create your own DTD's and use them instead!

As for changing it in First page, do it by hand!
Sun 30/06/02 at 21:28
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"l33t cs50r"
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Whooo! wrote:
> muhaha, this thread is back to haunt you...
>
> Using CSS, what tag is best to use to assign a class to a single line
> of text within a paragraph of text, keeping it W3C valid? can't use
>

> gap.

Use xxxx
To get around some NS problems in the CSS file place:

span{display : inline}

This will stop netscape treating the Span as a block attribute and treat it as in inline keeping the text on one line!

Muhaha... The CSS guru responds because hes just too damn good!

Sun 30/06/02 at 09:53
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Whooo! wrote:
> I was using HTML 4.0 Transitional to validate it, and in 4.0 you can't
> use NAME= tags, sorted it by changing to 4.01

Can you change this on 1st page? I usually just delete it anyway but they're becoming quite a fashion statement ;)
Sun 30/06/02 at 05:09
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"How Handy."
Posts: 2,631
muhaha, this thread is back to haunt you...

Using CSS, what tag is best to use to assign a class to a single line of text within a paragraph of text, keeping it W3C valid? can't use

because that'd leave a gap, and I dun wan no gap.

Tue 18/06/02 at 07:43
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"l33t cs50r"
Posts: 2,956
Whooo! wrote:
> I was using HTML 4.0 Transitional to validate it, and in 4.0 you can't
> use NAME= tags, sorted it by changing to 4.01

Try using id=
Mon 17/06/02 at 22:14
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"How Handy."
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I was using HTML 4.0 Transitional to validate it, and in 4.0 you can't use NAME= tags, sorted it by changing to 4.01
Mon 17/06/02 at 21:15
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y dont u want to use 'name=""'
Mon 17/06/02 at 21:05
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"How Handy."
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Well done mate, heh..

I'll look into the CSS later, but at the moment I'm struggling to get rollovers working without using Name="" in my img tags.. Anyone got an alternative script I could use?
Mon 17/06/02 at 12:11
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"l33t cs50r"
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Whooo! wrote:
> Anyone know a way round this?

You could acheive it using CSS as this does allow for Height and Width settings on Tables, TD's and TR's, or even using the .body. There's even some JS that will allow it to centre based on the end users resolution. You could re-define the

to position to topleft on a relative %... have I lost you yet?

Which DTD are you using? 4.0, 4.01 3.0? Transitional? Strict? as depending ont he DTD this will effect the outcome of your validation. You could go 100% W3C compliant at DTD4, but this won't degrade gracefully in non DTD4 compliant browsers?

Welcome to the minefield if W3C. You gotta love em... At least it's not this annoying with XML1.1 :-)

Will catch up with you later to see how you got on...

BTW... I've temporarily craked Websense!! Hence a lunchtime post... Who's ya Daddy!!

Mon 17/06/02 at 09:46
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I have tended not to try and assign a "height" to or
tags, just because you never now how much text or whatever is going to affect the size of the table. I always found it easier (and W3C compliant, apparently!) to set the width of a table if needed, but just to let it flow to whatever height it needed to be.

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