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Okay, you'll know from the thread title what this is about, but I'll say it anyway... because if I don't, I'll explode. It has really, REALLY made me angry.
How is it that the government can spend over £400 million of our money (tax AND lottery funding) on the Millennium Dome and the give it away, and yet they can't see fit to fund the new national stadium?
They've given the Dome and surrounding land to the developers who were originally going to buy it, in return for a share of the profits that the development makes.
Worse still... this could... not WILL, but COULD... give the government back over £500 million... over a period of TWENTY years!
Of course, none of us whose taxes and/or lottery money will get any of it back. This goes to the government. And over a period of twenty years, that won't fund any concessions for us in the form of tax relief, either.
And then there's the national stadium. Or rather the lack of one. This has been discussed on here several times in the past, but with this new Dome twist, I feel they're taking the pee even more.
They'll happily take millions of pounds from us to spend on a 'landmark' which no-one wanted (no-one that I talked to, anyway), and yet they refuse to fund something as critical as the redevelopment of the national stadium.
Okay, so some of you may be thinking 'a stadium isn't critical', and maybe it's not in the grand scheme of things. But I think it is, for the sake of national identity and for the sake of English football. How ridicuous is it that the country that gave football to the world currently doesn't have a national arena to play it in?
Wembley stood for decades as THE home of football. It was the one stadium in the entire world in which EVERY football player - professional and amateur alike - wanted to play. It was one stadium EVERY fan wanted to travel to and see their team play. Now we have nothing but a crumbling, derelict wreck of a building, and while the FA and the government bumble and stumble around trying to get their collective head out of their collective butt, the rest of the world is quite probably laughing at us.
No disrespect to the Welsh, but teams should need to travel outside of England to play our showpiece games. The Millennium Stadium is a fine ground, but it is not the place to be holding FA Cup finals and the like. These games BELONG at Wembley, and are most certainly made lesser occasions by the fact that they aren't.
The government and the FA need to drag themselves up to speed and deal with this whole shambolic mess. The government should have charged up front for that Dome and the land around it, and EVERY PENNY should have been ploughed into the redevelopment of Wembley Stadium, spending the people's money on something that the people want - just for a change.
How is it that the government can spend over £400 million of our money (tax AND lottery funding) on the Millennium Dome and the give it away, and yet they can't see fit to fund the new national stadium?
They've given the Dome and surrounding land to the developers who were originally going to buy it, in return for a share of the profits that the development makes.
Worse still... this could... not WILL, but COULD... give the government back over £500 million... over a period of TWENTY years!
Of course, none of us whose taxes and/or lottery money will get any of it back. This goes to the government. And over a period of twenty years, that won't fund any concessions for us in the form of tax relief, either.
And then there's the national stadium. Or rather the lack of one. This has been discussed on here several times in the past, but with this new Dome twist, I feel they're taking the pee even more.
They'll happily take millions of pounds from us to spend on a 'landmark' which no-one wanted (no-one that I talked to, anyway), and yet they refuse to fund something as critical as the redevelopment of the national stadium.
Okay, so some of you may be thinking 'a stadium isn't critical', and maybe it's not in the grand scheme of things. But I think it is, for the sake of national identity and for the sake of English football. How ridicuous is it that the country that gave football to the world currently doesn't have a national arena to play it in?
Wembley stood for decades as THE home of football. It was the one stadium in the entire world in which EVERY football player - professional and amateur alike - wanted to play. It was one stadium EVERY fan wanted to travel to and see their team play. Now we have nothing but a crumbling, derelict wreck of a building, and while the FA and the government bumble and stumble around trying to get their collective head out of their collective butt, the rest of the world is quite probably laughing at us.
No disrespect to the Welsh, but teams should need to travel outside of England to play our showpiece games. The Millennium Stadium is a fine ground, but it is not the place to be holding FA Cup finals and the like. These games BELONG at Wembley, and are most certainly made lesser occasions by the fact that they aren't.
The government and the FA need to drag themselves up to speed and deal with this whole shambolic mess. The government should have charged up front for that Dome and the land around it, and EVERY PENNY should have been ploughed into the redevelopment of Wembley Stadium, spending the people's money on something that the people want - just for a change.
Tories suck.
Some gipsies would steal it! There was a big thing in the paper about how they built about 6 stadiums in a year for a fraction of the cost of the new Wembley - and that included the floaty one.
No, but I saw somoething similar on Tomorrow's World a while ago. They (Japan) had a stadium which can actually expand depending on what it's being used for. One end is on a huge track, and can be moved in or out over a period of a few hours.
The Japanese never cease to amaze me with their technology and the things they're willing to do with it. Could you honestly ever imagine such a thing here?
The Japanese never cease to amaze me with their technology and the things they're willing to do with it. Could you honestly ever imagine such a thing here?
Did you see that stadium in Japan where thepitch can actually hover on a jet of air from outside, to inside a seated arena. No BS. The pitch is outside, but then a thunderbirds type thing occurs and it floats inside this massive stadium through a hole - like a massive letter through a masive letterbox. Genius.
Okay, you'll know from the thread title what this is about, but I'll say it anyway... because if I don't, I'll explode. It has really, REALLY made me angry.
How is it that the government can spend over £400 million of our money (tax AND lottery funding) on the Millennium Dome and the give it away, and yet they can't see fit to fund the new national stadium?
They've given the Dome and surrounding land to the developers who were originally going to buy it, in return for a share of the profits that the development makes.
Worse still... this could... not WILL, but COULD... give the government back over £500 million... over a period of TWENTY years!
Of course, none of us whose taxes and/or lottery money will get any of it back. This goes to the government. And over a period of twenty years, that won't fund any concessions for us in the form of tax relief, either.
And then there's the national stadium. Or rather the lack of one. This has been discussed on here several times in the past, but with this new Dome twist, I feel they're taking the pee even more.
They'll happily take millions of pounds from us to spend on a 'landmark' which no-one wanted (no-one that I talked to, anyway), and yet they refuse to fund something as critical as the redevelopment of the national stadium.
Okay, so some of you may be thinking 'a stadium isn't critical', and maybe it's not in the grand scheme of things. But I think it is, for the sake of national identity and for the sake of English football. How ridicuous is it that the country that gave football to the world currently doesn't have a national arena to play it in?
Wembley stood for decades as THE home of football. It was the one stadium in the entire world in which EVERY football player - professional and amateur alike - wanted to play. It was one stadium EVERY fan wanted to travel to and see their team play. Now we have nothing but a crumbling, derelict wreck of a building, and while the FA and the government bumble and stumble around trying to get their collective head out of their collective butt, the rest of the world is quite probably laughing at us.
No disrespect to the Welsh, but teams should need to travel outside of England to play our showpiece games. The Millennium Stadium is a fine ground, but it is not the place to be holding FA Cup finals and the like. These games BELONG at Wembley, and are most certainly made lesser occasions by the fact that they aren't.
The government and the FA need to drag themselves up to speed and deal with this whole shambolic mess. The government should have charged up front for that Dome and the land around it, and EVERY PENNY should have been ploughed into the redevelopment of Wembley Stadium, spending the people's money on something that the people want - just for a change.
How is it that the government can spend over £400 million of our money (tax AND lottery funding) on the Millennium Dome and the give it away, and yet they can't see fit to fund the new national stadium?
They've given the Dome and surrounding land to the developers who were originally going to buy it, in return for a share of the profits that the development makes.
Worse still... this could... not WILL, but COULD... give the government back over £500 million... over a period of TWENTY years!
Of course, none of us whose taxes and/or lottery money will get any of it back. This goes to the government. And over a period of twenty years, that won't fund any concessions for us in the form of tax relief, either.
And then there's the national stadium. Or rather the lack of one. This has been discussed on here several times in the past, but with this new Dome twist, I feel they're taking the pee even more.
They'll happily take millions of pounds from us to spend on a 'landmark' which no-one wanted (no-one that I talked to, anyway), and yet they refuse to fund something as critical as the redevelopment of the national stadium.
Okay, so some of you may be thinking 'a stadium isn't critical', and maybe it's not in the grand scheme of things. But I think it is, for the sake of national identity and for the sake of English football. How ridicuous is it that the country that gave football to the world currently doesn't have a national arena to play it in?
Wembley stood for decades as THE home of football. It was the one stadium in the entire world in which EVERY football player - professional and amateur alike - wanted to play. It was one stadium EVERY fan wanted to travel to and see their team play. Now we have nothing but a crumbling, derelict wreck of a building, and while the FA and the government bumble and stumble around trying to get their collective head out of their collective butt, the rest of the world is quite probably laughing at us.
No disrespect to the Welsh, but teams should need to travel outside of England to play our showpiece games. The Millennium Stadium is a fine ground, but it is not the place to be holding FA Cup finals and the like. These games BELONG at Wembley, and are most certainly made lesser occasions by the fact that they aren't.
The government and the FA need to drag themselves up to speed and deal with this whole shambolic mess. The government should have charged up front for that Dome and the land around it, and EVERY PENNY should have been ploughed into the redevelopment of Wembley Stadium, spending the people's money on something that the people want - just for a change.