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Sun 26/05/02 at 14:22
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At the moment on all consoles games are great. You get the occasional few games that are total tripe, but mostly they're pretty good. The graphics are amazing so is the gameplay and with every new release these two things seem to get better and better, and people like to see better graphics and expect them to be twice as amazing as a game previously released. This has happened on the PS2, but it has taken over a year. For examaple, Red Faction was one of the early releases for PS2 and the graphics were good and the gameplay was the best for FPS that I had ever played. Now I've seen new screen shots of Red Faction 2 and it looks much, much better.

See how much video games have improved since they came out.But where will it end? Eventually games will have improved so much that they cannot be improved anymore. That probably won't be for a very long time but just imagine what games will be like. Playing a game that looks real, sounds real and feels real!

A MGS where you are Snake, your in first person view all the time and your sneaking around, it would seem pretty real and would be quite cool. Your heart would beat faster as you hide behind a crate hoping that the approching guard does not see you. In gun fights it would be cool and change to a Time Crisis type game because you would still be in a first person view. Everytime you get hit you feel it slightly.
Or flight simulaters. You feel the Gs as you do some awesome manuvers at the risk of blacking out. I think it would be great for training pilots though.

The bad thing with this is though is that some people will forget that hey are in the real world or won't be able to tell whether they are in the real life of still in the game.

But somehwre along the line games developers are going to run out of ideas and since the graphics or gameplay can't be improved people won't be so impressed and so they won't be new releases and no new games will bought which will mean the end of gaming because game developers will spend alot of money making the game that no one buys. But this wont happen for a very long time so we don't have to worry really. All good things must end I guess...

Or will it end? It probably won't, I think ideas for games will never run out but there is a limit to graphics. I think it depends on inventions etc, that might come in the future like new games, simulations in space etc. You can only imagine what things will be like in the far future and no-one can be sure what will happen...


Thanks.
Blade.
Mon 27/05/02 at 11:37
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I don't think that the Red Faction graphics were THAT good on the PS2, after seeing it being played on GameNetwork a while back.
The PC version looked much better - obviously!

I agree that we will one day come to an end of development, where games and console can go on no further.
But that won't be for absolutely ages yet!

All you have to do is look at what you wanna see to know we're nowhere near the end. Photo-realistic graphics and Virtual Reallity are just 2 thing yet to appear that won't be around for AGES yet.
Sun 26/05/02 at 21:11
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I think that was the main problems in games like Shenmue. Sure, it was realistic and reasonably reflective of life - but do you want to stand at a virtual bus stop in the rain? Not me, I do enough of that in real life. Games should be about escaping to another reality, doing things you never do, or ever will do, in real life.

That's why I play anyway.
Sun 26/05/02 at 20:55
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===SONICRAV---> wrote:
> > Oh, and then again, who needs realism! You can never have enough
> alternate graphical styles (cell shading per say)
>

Who needs realism, indeed, but not even going down the cell shading route, who needs realistic situations? Yes, we do, I know, but not ALL games do. Where would we be without Mario's mushroom kingdom or The numerous worlds of Orcs and Dragons? We'd be bored stiff after a while, I can tell you!

So even if gaming does become immersive, I'd prefer to be in a game set somewhere else than here.
Sun 26/05/02 at 18:22
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I don't think that we will ever, ever reach a wall in gaming.

So, we might reach photorealism. But what's the point in having every single object in a game perfectly engineered if we still interact with some plastic buttons? So, peripheral design will have to dramatically change.

Next is that fact that, despite generating perfect graphics, you still see them on a 2D screen. So, perhaps VR headsets will come back, allowing you to see 3D images that change as you turn your head.

And then we have to perfect computer AI... and that's not going to be here for a long time!

I wrote a topic on everything that'll have to happen in gaming from a development point of view. It's on the Prime front page, and it's called "future developments"- take a look.

Oh, and then again, who needs realism! You can never have enough alternate graphical styles (cell shading per say)

Sonic
Sun 26/05/02 at 14:22
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Posts: 1,550
At the moment on all consoles games are great. You get the occasional few games that are total tripe, but mostly they're pretty good. The graphics are amazing so is the gameplay and with every new release these two things seem to get better and better, and people like to see better graphics and expect them to be twice as amazing as a game previously released. This has happened on the PS2, but it has taken over a year. For examaple, Red Faction was one of the early releases for PS2 and the graphics were good and the gameplay was the best for FPS that I had ever played. Now I've seen new screen shots of Red Faction 2 and it looks much, much better.

See how much video games have improved since they came out.But where will it end? Eventually games will have improved so much that they cannot be improved anymore. That probably won't be for a very long time but just imagine what games will be like. Playing a game that looks real, sounds real and feels real!

A MGS where you are Snake, your in first person view all the time and your sneaking around, it would seem pretty real and would be quite cool. Your heart would beat faster as you hide behind a crate hoping that the approching guard does not see you. In gun fights it would be cool and change to a Time Crisis type game because you would still be in a first person view. Everytime you get hit you feel it slightly.
Or flight simulaters. You feel the Gs as you do some awesome manuvers at the risk of blacking out. I think it would be great for training pilots though.

The bad thing with this is though is that some people will forget that hey are in the real world or won't be able to tell whether they are in the real life of still in the game.

But somehwre along the line games developers are going to run out of ideas and since the graphics or gameplay can't be improved people won't be so impressed and so they won't be new releases and no new games will bought which will mean the end of gaming because game developers will spend alot of money making the game that no one buys. But this wont happen for a very long time so we don't have to worry really. All good things must end I guess...

Or will it end? It probably won't, I think ideas for games will never run out but there is a limit to graphics. I think it depends on inventions etc, that might come in the future like new games, simulations in space etc. You can only imagine what things will be like in the far future and no-one can be sure what will happen...


Thanks.
Blade.

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