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Mon 20/05/02 at 14:10
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Yup, that’s right...I have bought ISS 2...for £40...not from SR though, sorry. :D

Well, now that you have got over the shock, im going to tell you what I think of the game, but let me start by explaining something.

*this will be a long post i think...so get a coffee first. :D*

A few weeks back I wrote a post about how I disliked the idea that Konami were releasing ISS games and Pro Evo games along side each other, for the sheer fact that I thought that it was a scheming ploy to make people buy the wrong versions of the game, so that they would then have to go back and buy the other. I still dislike this idea, I don’t agree with what they have done.... but that does not mean that ISS 2 is a bad game, as it’s far from it.

Anyway, it was Badgerman that first got me thinking about getting this game, and so, in town today I thought, hell, ive got the money, why not, so I just bought it on impulse, didn’t even look at the back of the box...might sound foolish but hey, I bought it, and now that I have got it home, im rather happy with it.

Firstly, the most obvious thing people will do when they play this game, is compare it to Pro Evo, I tried not to, as I wanted to see what type of game it really is, what would it have got if Pro Evo wasn’t around, but that’s a bit hard, but what I will say is...its not that many light years away from Pro Evo.

Basically, it’s a different game; the game play has its differences and has its similarities. ISS 2 is not the arcade game that I thought it was, it carefully blends arcade and realism into one factor. On one hand you have rather realistic games engine, with passes not always going to feet, people miss controlling the ball. Then there are the excellent passes that you can do, which you have to stand up and pat yourself on the back for completing, the long range pass in ISS 2 is much more effective than in Pro Evo. Also though, it has flashes of arcade in it, its a faster game for starters, then there are some passes that can be done over and over that would never happen in real life. This is not a bad thing though as you can put a 5-pass combo in completely from back healers.... it’s like having a midfield full of Joe Cole's! There are too sneaky bits of trickery that can be done, that not even Ronaldo can pull off anymore...it all makes for eye pleasing football.

Shooting is slightly improved on ISS 2 as well, it now feels that you can put the ball anywhere in the net, where as on Pro Evo, you were a little restricted. The controls being more responsive in this game means that you can be running through midfield with Scholes, and then in a second spot a gap and shoot a low missile into the bottom corner with relative ease, something that you could not always do on Pro Evo.... whether you score though is different, as the keepers are better than on Pro Evo. Basically, shooting is a little improved on here.

Over all, the game play on ISS 2 is not quite up to the standards of Pro Evo, its still a more direct game to play and the importance of build up play is not as much as on Pro Evo. Saying that, its still a realistic game, and in some places the AI is better on this, players now run to the ball when its passed, and run into space more just like on the real thing. This does allow for much better possession play as there are less dodgy interceptions to be had.

Pro Evo and ISS 2 do play different. Pro Evo is pure realism. ISS 2 is a mixture of both. Both games do play well, both give you some great entertainment...but for me, Pro Evo is still on top in game play.

However,

ISS 2 is leagues above Pro Evo in the atmosphere department. It’s safe to say, that in atmosphere wise (sounds, looks and settings) that ISS 2 is the game that does this the best that i have ever played.

The commentary is so much better than any other ISS/Pro Evo game to come out, its more responsive, it stays up to time with the match and it actually makes sense.... only problem is that its Mark Lawrence speaking from MOTD, cant have everything i suppose.

The graphics are too very impressive, while not all the players look like there real life counterparts, they are very good models. The animation in this game is superb. Every type of pass in the game must be in here somewhere, from the side foot to the toe stab, even the nifty dummy can be done. But with the animation being so good everything looks so real (if you take away the computer look). The makers need to be really congratulated here.

And finally, the crowd are perfect too, there in tune all way through the match, singing various football tunes, cheering as there team gets to the box and shoots...and then give out a huge groan as Heskey misses from 4 yards (told you it was realistic). But what is truly great is, that if the home team scores you here the crowd cheering very loud...and if the away team scores, boos ring out from all the home fans with a snidy remark from the commentator "You cant please all the fans can you". Ponce.

As for what you can do in the game, its got all the usual games to play through that you would expect from an ISS game, so there’s plenty to keep you busy.

*The Big Conclusion*

So, if you have Pro Evo is there any point in getting this game? Yes and No.

Yes - Its different to Pro Evo, the game play is good yet different, at times its a lot more pleasing on the eye. Also, this is more of the game that you can just pick up and have a blast on, you don’t need to be a sheer master of the game to get the most from it, most of the main tricks can be learned quite quickly (though i do have some more to learn) but you don’t need to practice for hours to get good.

No - If you want pure realism, this is not the game for you, it throws in the realism, but the arcade areas are there for you all to see. Also there is not much different in terms of what the game offers you other than the difference in realism, so it might seem like your just buying a seasonal update of Pro Evo with slightly better graphics.

For me, Pro Evo is still the best football game out there. ISS 2, while not as good, is still a damn enjoyable game, that allows for quicker and easier play than Pro Evo, but still offers a challenge.

I recommend a rent at least from you Konami lovers.
Wed 29/05/02 at 17:48
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"es argh"
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I haven't tried any of the cups yet, so I haven't gotten any of the extras.

I will try it now...
Wed 29/05/02 at 09:26
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"Ar-gen-tina!"
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Youve not heard of Bozy Churchil? The Guys a Legend TrouT!

Ive not played any cups as yet only a few friendlys admist revising (to keep sane) this situation will however change severly after my exam on tommorow..

Freedom at last...

:D
Wed 29/05/02 at 00:52
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This is mainly for Neo and Badgerman as they are the only ones with this game around here apart from me i think.

Have any of you done any of the cups yet?

I did the international one and the European one tonight. Its very good and better than most of the other ones on other football games as you get to play a special team when you have won the titles. So far i played the Euro All Stars and England legends.

Though i think the England Legends are not a real team, unless you have heard of Bozy Churchil....

Good fun though.
Wed 22/05/02 at 13:07
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Played this game some more this morning, still liking it more everyday as i learn more skills for it, just about mastered the shooting aspects of the game, and these goals do feel special when they go in. That might be because you do have more freedom to your shots than you do on Pro Evo, it feels more like you did the harder work on this game to get the goals.

And the atmosphere and animation of the players is still pretty brilliant.
Wed 22/05/02 at 00:14
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"Ar-gen-tina!"
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Or†ega wrote:
> Full of praise for it eh?
>
> Hmmmmm, might give it a rent then, on the GameCube of course :P
>
> Havnt got a footy game on the Cube and Sega Soccer Slam is still a
> while off methinks.

Ive played it on the game cube... its woeful!
Tue 21/05/02 at 20:26
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"360: swfcman"
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pop for Beckhams Metatarsal

Anyway, been playing this some more today, gets better and better, some of the football you can make after some practice is pretty brilliant, specially if you can cap it off with a 25 yard stunner into the top right with good old ginger nut. :D

I won the World Cup today with england, funnily enough it was against germany...this an early sign?

Thought not. :D
Tue 21/05/02 at 01:01
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Full of praise for it eh?

Hmmmmm, might give it a rent then, on the GameCube of course :P

Havnt got a footy game on the Cube and Sega Soccer Slam is still a while off methinks.
Tue 21/05/02 at 00:02
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Hmm...

I wonder why big slow?

:)
Mon 20/05/02 at 22:07
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i dont really know alot about football, or the games, but without causing a fuss which would you say is the best?

pro evo dont reply this as i htink your reply might be a bit biased :D
and why did you decide to block me on msn forever without telling me?
Mon 20/05/02 at 22:01
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Hey! You guys! Get your butts in the longest thread and speak to me!

And to not go as much of topic, eeerrrr, nice post, I think I might get this game.

:D

*runs*

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