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Sat 18/05/02 at 11:45
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I see the xbox is getting a mod chip. In fact I see theres actually 3 designs coming forward. 1 allows imports and the other two allow pirate games as well to be used. I'm not surprised it had to happen but I just wonder if people realise what a crappy choice it is to mod your console for pirate games. I did so in the past with my ps1. It was great it seemed at the time getting low cost games but somehow I never really played or enjoyed the games that much. Such was the avalanche of psx games available to me that I only ever seemed to play 1 or 2 hours on each before moving on to something else. Because you knew you always had something else to try. I've been thinking about this and really you don't ever want to get more than 1 game every 2 weeks. That should be the golden rule otherwise you simply won't spend the time on the game to really take in the whole experience. Of course some games grab you and you can't stop anyway such was the case of shenmue for me on the dreamcast. Truly loved this game. Other games though actually build addiction as they maybe a little hard going at first but once you get in a bit further it all clicks and they start playing really well you won't know this unless you persevere.

Modding the console itself can be damaging and even if you don't destroy the console you may find that electrically its not quite as good as it was and you've introduced background distortion to audio or somehow caused a lack of stability.

Gaming can be cheap anyway with originals. I mean look at the dc peanuts to buy and some of the best games ever widely available at less than £10 each. Personally I think everyone should have a dreamcast a truly amazing console.

Lets say your considering getting your xbox modded for pirate games. They want £120 to mod your xbox and then you can buy xbox games for a tenner a time. £120 buys you a lot of dreamcast and games. Sadly most xbox games are poor anyway so all your going to be doing is having a wide selection of cheap crappy xbox games. So you end up paying £300 to get your xbox modded and 18 pirate games to go with it. Of which only 2 of those games are worth playing and you could have bought both for £80 anyway.

So even if like me you don't struggle as much as you should with the moralty of mod chips and pirate games it still maybe a very poor choice to make.

Also there is no actual enjoyment of ownership. An original game is something that looks good up on the shelf. Its stylish, you get a book with a story and full instructions and everything about it is positive. A pirate game is just a plain looking cd no doubt with felt tip writing across the top. Something you'll hide away in a drawer.

So if you go the mod chip route and start feeling the magic is going out of gaming flog on your modded console and go back to an unmodified console with original games it might re-kindle your interest.
Sun 19/05/02 at 12:59
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Gar-J wrote:
> Fair enough with groundbreaking and original titles, but 'skill and
> dedication' from EA with their constant rehashes of old games?
>
> And as for the illegal bit - that's why you don't walk into a Cop Shop
> and tell them about it.

*

Yeah, I suppose some game publishers deserve to be ripped-off. EA and the FIFA games being a prime example.

About going to the cop shop - I'd never shop anyone for copying stuff, I just don't think it's right or "wholesome" that's all.
A few months back I bought a load of copied Dreamcast games and I found myself feeling a bit guilty.
It's down to individual conscience.
Personally I think it can only damage the industry and keep software prices up.
Sun 19/05/02 at 12:06
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Nomad_Soul wrote:
> Don't you think that the skill and dedication of the programmers
> should be rewarded though?
> It's also illegal.

Fair enough with groundbreaking and original titles, but 'skill and dedication' from EA with their constant rehashes of old games?

And as for the illegal bit - that's why you don't walk into a Cop Shop and tell them about it.
Sat 18/05/02 at 18:25
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Don't you think that the skill and dedication of the programmers should be rewarded though?
It's also illegal.
Sat 18/05/02 at 18:10
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While I see your point, and know that having too many new games at the same time does spoil the experience, I don't think it justifies asking people not to get any mods for their Xbox. It's up to the individual at the end of the day if they want to have access to more and cheaper games.

Yea, there are some cheap games on the market. Yea, some can cost as little as a tenner. But so what? After getting a mod chip ALL of your games can be nailed for a tenner and often less.

At the end of the day the games industry is happy to charge you 40 quid for a CD that costs 7p to make, so if there's any way to fight back then go for it.
Sat 18/05/02 at 12:05
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Playing pirated games cheapens the whole gaming experience for me. Yes it's more expensive but I like the whole official package.
Everytime I've sold a console, the person buying has always asked me: "Is it chipped?" - Personally I feel like punching them in the face.
I appreciate what the game industry has to offer too much to actively and consciously play a part of the downfall of its future.
Sat 18/05/02 at 11:45
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Posts: 56
I see the xbox is getting a mod chip. In fact I see theres actually 3 designs coming forward. 1 allows imports and the other two allow pirate games as well to be used. I'm not surprised it had to happen but I just wonder if people realise what a crappy choice it is to mod your console for pirate games. I did so in the past with my ps1. It was great it seemed at the time getting low cost games but somehow I never really played or enjoyed the games that much. Such was the avalanche of psx games available to me that I only ever seemed to play 1 or 2 hours on each before moving on to something else. Because you knew you always had something else to try. I've been thinking about this and really you don't ever want to get more than 1 game every 2 weeks. That should be the golden rule otherwise you simply won't spend the time on the game to really take in the whole experience. Of course some games grab you and you can't stop anyway such was the case of shenmue for me on the dreamcast. Truly loved this game. Other games though actually build addiction as they maybe a little hard going at first but once you get in a bit further it all clicks and they start playing really well you won't know this unless you persevere.

Modding the console itself can be damaging and even if you don't destroy the console you may find that electrically its not quite as good as it was and you've introduced background distortion to audio or somehow caused a lack of stability.

Gaming can be cheap anyway with originals. I mean look at the dc peanuts to buy and some of the best games ever widely available at less than £10 each. Personally I think everyone should have a dreamcast a truly amazing console.

Lets say your considering getting your xbox modded for pirate games. They want £120 to mod your xbox and then you can buy xbox games for a tenner a time. £120 buys you a lot of dreamcast and games. Sadly most xbox games are poor anyway so all your going to be doing is having a wide selection of cheap crappy xbox games. So you end up paying £300 to get your xbox modded and 18 pirate games to go with it. Of which only 2 of those games are worth playing and you could have bought both for £80 anyway.

So even if like me you don't struggle as much as you should with the moralty of mod chips and pirate games it still maybe a very poor choice to make.

Also there is no actual enjoyment of ownership. An original game is something that looks good up on the shelf. Its stylish, you get a book with a story and full instructions and everything about it is positive. A pirate game is just a plain looking cd no doubt with felt tip writing across the top. Something you'll hide away in a drawer.

So if you go the mod chip route and start feeling the magic is going out of gaming flog on your modded console and go back to an unmodified console with original games it might re-kindle your interest.

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