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Wed 25/10/00 at 18:08
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All of us know of the chipping of sony playstations. Although this is illegal it has not stopped many of the population of playstation owners carrying the action out. It means that people with the chip can copy games at a tenth of the shops rate and therefore rip all of us law obiding people off. It means that people can start black market buisnesses and also rip sony off. A better solution for sony would be to resolve to cartiges or invent a chip to prevent copied games being played.
Will or have they done this on the new PSone, the PS2 or the gamecube?
Wed 25/10/00 at 18:08
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All of us know of the chipping of sony playstations. Although this is illegal it has not stopped many of the population of playstation owners carrying the action out. It means that people with the chip can copy games at a tenth of the shops rate and therefore rip all of us law obiding people off. It means that people can start black market buisnesses and also rip sony off. A better solution for sony would be to resolve to cartiges or invent a chip to prevent copied games being played.
Will or have they done this on the new PSone, the PS2 or the gamecube?
Wed 25/10/00 at 23:15
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The Bleemcast is illegal so if any Sega owners download it, it is illegal and shows they are not loyal to Sega.
That said, there shouldn't be any sony emulators or Sony emulators. IF that ever happens the games will be too big.

On the import scene, who would what to spend extra money playing on a Japanese, version of a game, when a English version's coming out, patience is needed.
DC-UK did the wrong thing to even bring that disc out for dreamcast owners. They call it official and they've dented their loyalty to Sega, now is NOM so rubbish?
Thu 26/10/00 at 09:18
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The Gamecube disks are ment to be almost impossible to copy!

This isn't because of their size though!

They are using brand new technology that may not be DVD but is just as good!
Thu 26/10/00 at 16:13
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In my interview with Shigsy, (Your interview?), ...well not mine, but in my... the magazine I brought with MY money.

(Your money?)

Anyway, Shigsy said that the discs are significantly cheaper to produce than a lot of stuff, including cartridges and dvds.

So...

Cheap games all round!

Hurrah!
Thu 26/10/00 at 16:55
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Yeah maybe SR could give 2 gameadays of GC games, when it comes out!
Thu 26/10/00 at 18:53
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Hang on. DC-UK are not the official dreamcast magazine, and the disc you are refering to is a cheat disc (a demo one at that) which goes with a memory card-like device that plugs into your vms slot. DC-UK probably didn't even realise that you could play import games with it. I have the device, which SR sell themselves and it is very useful for cheats. I may at some point get some import games as I have a shop near me that sells them.

Import and copied games are two different things. Import games are not illegal in this country and in fact are neccessary when you wish to play a game that hasn't come out in this country and is not ever going to. There are literally hundreds of Japanese games that get made and sold in japan, some of them really good, that don't make it to these shores. I agree with SR not selling import games, as it is a tricky business explaining them to customers and they often cost a lot more to sell in another country due to tax etc. Lots of other companies specialise in selling legal imports for PSX, N64, Dreamcast, Saturn and SNES (even now) and they are very popular.

On the other side, copied games are illegal and can, allegedly, hurt games companies. However, they can help hardware companies shift consoles. But this is another topic and one that I would have to explain in depth. Anyway, I do not condone copied games as most people who copy them do not have enough time to play them all and get carried away copying them, plus at least half of them could probably afford the games in the first place.
Thu 26/10/00 at 18:55
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So the disc is not illegal eh?
Thu 26/10/00 at 19:04
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No. The disc, and any 'chipping' externally or internally is not illegal either. No one can stop you from doing things to your console (short of hitting someone over the head with it) and as I said, importing games is not illegal either.

The disc is a demo of a new cheat cartridge called the Action Replay CDX, for sale by Special Reserve for £34.99 and I recommend the cartridge to anyone, it can also be used to save game data and new cheats as they are printed or from the internet.
Thu 26/10/00 at 19:06
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So even though Sega didn't permit it it's not illegal?
Thu 26/10/00 at 19:14
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Sega can't stop a third party from releasing software on their machine. It's just not endorsed by Sega, that's all. Ask Special Reserve, they sell the thing.

I worked in a game shop while the original debate for the same software came out on the SNES and Megadrive (by the same company) and nintendo famously lost a court battle to have the software/hardware banned, since then everyone has made them for each new console. The Playstation and Nintendo 64 have the same cheat cartridge and both let you play import games. It's a side effect of the way the hardware works rather than a desired effect, so they aren't selling them to play import games, just to cheat.

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