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Alot of game developers are becoming more adventurous inline with how the market fluctuates, but to be honest, developers are beginning to take it too far. The prime suspect? Nintendo. Mainly because of Mario Sunshine. Now since very little is known about the game this is a very first-impressiony view but honestly it does seem to have crossed the thin line which seperates innovative, which is good, and pointless/stupid, which isn't so good. The basic story revolves around Mario being accused of vandalism. This isn't necessary. I know that Nintendo wanted to surprise us all but this a a shock, not a surprise. Knowing Nintendo, though, I'm sure something will give it the Nintendo difference, and I know that this post will be argued because this place is full of Ninty fans, which I am, but I find this prospect rather ridiculous.
Some innovation is good. Pikmin and Rez are both great examples with it being greatly difficult to catergorise these in genres, and to play these are great fun. With doubt about them before release, though, like I have of Mario Sunshine, taken away once they were reviewed and released (Pikmin in US, mind) but Im not sure if Mario Sunshine will be able to shrug it off so easily. Bith the games I've mentioned have become successes, no matter where released, and the Japanese, especially, lap up originality. Unfortunately, UK gamers are slightly set in their conventional ways and if Mario Sunshone gets bad press, and considering 1 of the screenshots sohwn by SR in its latest news about Sunshine, its looks interesting, but to a non-biased gamer like me (debatable) it looks worryingly, not interestingly, but worryingly different.
As with the new look Zelda. It has recieved a shower of criticism from fans, and as usual, NOM have defended it (as it's Nintendo and if they don;t they're dead) but Im afraid no amount of magazine pluses are going to change a graphics conscience gamer (which hopefully there shouldn't be too many off).
So what do you think? Am I completely wrong and pessimistic and should I trust Ninty? Or do you have doubts too?
Some innovation is good. Pikmin and Rez are both great examples with it being greatly difficult to catergorise these in genres, and to play these are great fun. With doubt about them before release, though, like I have of Mario Sunshine, taken away once they were reviewed and released (Pikmin in US, mind) but Im not sure if Mario Sunshine will be able to shrug it off so easily. Bith the games I've mentioned have become successes, no matter where released, and the Japanese, especially, lap up originality. Unfortunately, UK gamers are slightly set in their conventional ways and if Mario Sunshone gets bad press, and considering 1 of the screenshots sohwn by SR in its latest news about Sunshine, its looks interesting, but to a non-biased gamer like me (debatable) it looks worryingly, not interestingly, but worryingly different.
As with the new look Zelda. It has recieved a shower of criticism from fans, and as usual, NOM have defended it (as it's Nintendo and if they don;t they're dead) but Im afraid no amount of magazine pluses are going to change a graphics conscience gamer (which hopefully there shouldn't be too many off).
So what do you think? Am I completely wrong and pessimistic and should I trust Ninty? Or do you have doubts too?
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Alot of game developers are becoming more adventurous inline with how the market fluctuates, but to be honest, developers are beginning to take it too far. The prime suspect? Nintendo. Mainly because of Mario Sunshine. Now since very little is known about the game this is a very first-impressiony view but honestly it does seem to have crossed the thin line which seperates innovative, which is good, and pointless/stupid, which isn't so good. The basic story revolves around Mario being accused of vandalism. This isn't necessary. I know that Nintendo wanted to surprise us all but this a a shock, not a surprise. Knowing Nintendo, though, I'm sure something will give it the Nintendo difference, and I know that this post will be argued because this place is full of Ninty fans, which I am, but I find this prospect rather ridiculous.
Some innovation is good. Pikmin and Rez are both great examples with it being greatly difficult to catergorise these in genres, and to play these are great fun. With doubt about them before release, though, like I have of Mario Sunshine, taken away once they were reviewed and released (Pikmin in US, mind) but Im not sure if Mario Sunshine will be able to shrug it off so easily. Bith the games I've mentioned have become successes, no matter where released, and the Japanese, especially, lap up originality. Unfortunately, UK gamers are slightly set in their conventional ways and if Mario Sunshone gets bad press, and considering 1 of the screenshots sohwn by SR in its latest news about Sunshine, its looks interesting, but to a non-biased gamer like me (debatable) it looks worryingly, not interestingly, but worryingly different.
As with the new look Zelda. It has recieved a shower of criticism from fans, and as usual, NOM have defended it (as it's Nintendo and if they don;t they're dead) but Im afraid no amount of magazine pluses are going to change a graphics conscience gamer (which hopefully there shouldn't be too many off).
So what do you think? Am I completely wrong and pessimistic and should I trust Ninty? Or do you have doubts too?
Some innovation is good. Pikmin and Rez are both great examples with it being greatly difficult to catergorise these in genres, and to play these are great fun. With doubt about them before release, though, like I have of Mario Sunshine, taken away once they were reviewed and released (Pikmin in US, mind) but Im not sure if Mario Sunshine will be able to shrug it off so easily. Bith the games I've mentioned have become successes, no matter where released, and the Japanese, especially, lap up originality. Unfortunately, UK gamers are slightly set in their conventional ways and if Mario Sunshone gets bad press, and considering 1 of the screenshots sohwn by SR in its latest news about Sunshine, its looks interesting, but to a non-biased gamer like me (debatable) it looks worryingly, not interestingly, but worryingly different.
As with the new look Zelda. It has recieved a shower of criticism from fans, and as usual, NOM have defended it (as it's Nintendo and if they don;t they're dead) but Im afraid no amount of magazine pluses are going to change a graphics conscience gamer (which hopefully there shouldn't be too many off).
So what do you think? Am I completely wrong and pessimistic and should I trust Ninty? Or do you have doubts too?