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Tue 30/04/02 at 15:46
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Everyone seems to be talking about the capabilities of high-speed Internet gaming. The only problem is that it'll only work when we all get high speed ADSL lines.... which I doubt is gonna happen soon.

So, while we're all waiting for BT to catch up with the rest of the world, why not exploit the pre-existant network that are mobile phones.

Our friends in Japan have already begun to do this- the iMode phone network sports games designed by companies like Sega and Namco. Amusement Vision and Sonic Team (parts of Sega) even have teams of people devoted to making games based around their characters for phones.

But mobile gaming should be about so much more than just the usual columns or bomberman- as good as these games are, they really don't expoit the phone network itself. How about taking the classic games like bomberman, but then allowing mobile gamers to enter real-time competitions against other players, competing for prizes?

Mobile networks could get companies to sponsor "mobile tournaments" where potentially millions of gamers would enter a tournament for, say, 10p each. It makes sense for the phone companies- not only do they get sponsorship money and tournament entry money, but the first phone company to implement sucha scheme is bound to get a whole lot of new customers too.

In the future, as phone technology gets better, you could have simple online Role Playing Games. Something like "Dominion" (for those of you who don't know, this is a free online game where you take control of an army and some land, and have to invade other people to compete to be the biggest realm). All that's needed is the invetment.

Maybe in the distant future, when mobiles get really advanced, they will compete with handheld consoles like the GBA. While both could potentially have equally good graphics, phones would have the added advantage of having a network already set up over which people could play. With developers like Sega onboard the future looks good for the mobile gamer.

Sonic
Tue 07/05/02 at 22:03
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Solskjaer, I understand what you're saying, but it's not a sentiment that most of the nation follows. Most people do change their phone every 6 months, and a lot are on contracts.

In Japan I'd guess that a lot more people swap phones more often.

But even if people only change every, say, 2 years, then all you have to do is release your new "game phone" and when people get a new phone they're bound to get one.

Sonic
Mon 06/05/02 at 07:27
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Good Post. Well Done!
Sun 05/05/02 at 16:00
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The year is 1985.... i've just been born and i'm not obsessed with Mobile Phones like many others are, so therefore I don't know much about them!
I have one, it's about 5 years old, cack, and I never use it. I thought about getting a new one, but then I realised that I probably wouldn't use that either!

There are many people like me who rarely sue their phones, and therefore have a 'Pay As You Go' SimCard rather than a Contract! And when you buy a phone like this, you have to pay upto around £200 for one of the latest models, top-quality. And even though Contract Phones are free to buy )except the signature on the dotted line) you still end up paying the same price and more through all the monthly bills you pay during a 12 month period! See!!

And if people are using their phones for playing games aswell as chatting and texting, then they're bills are gunna start to grow and grow! Or, the number of Top-Ups per month will increase rapidly!
Sat 04/05/02 at 12:27
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Cheers for the reply!

Well, if my ideas are followed though, the GBA (well, its successors) will have SERIOUS problems. If mobile phones reach the graphical level of the GB AND they offer online gaming too (and perhaps internet access too), then why would people buy GBs any more?

Of course, people might say that the GB will always have the better games. However, when you consider that companies like Sega and Namco are already investing a significant slice of mony into mobile phone games, then will this really hold?

So, either you buy a new mobile that will act as a phone, go online, allow you to download games for free AND play these online in tournaments to win prizes... or you get a GB and play games. On top of this, due to the lowering cost of technology, such mobiles will eventually come free on contract...

Sonic
Sat 04/05/02 at 12:03
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Good post Soni, I was in the midst of doing a post on wireless gaming, but you already cover some great points, so back to the drawing board for me :D

Anyway Mobile gaming would be great I notice how mobiles are coming out with blue tooth technology together with staTe of the art colour screens, gaming would be great on there, two player via infra red or online (WAP) Gaming would also be another idea which could be incorporated.

Something I was looking into was Wireless gaming being rival to console gaming , but as we've seen with the GBA there's a place for both of them.

Imagine the idea of a portable PS 2 - what more would we need?

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Sat 04/05/02 at 11:46
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Solskjaer, what century are you living in?! Two player games of Snake are already played via infra-red connections on the tops of mobiles!

And what's this about paying £200 for a new phone... they tend to come free with contracts. Most young people actually get new phones every few months anyway!

As for the radiation problem, people who use mobiles tend not to care that much anyway...

Nomad_Soul wrote:
> When I think of mobile phone gaming, I see horrible blocky black &
> white pixels, a la Spectrum. It'll only take off when the graphics can
> compete with those of the Gameboy and GBA - and as far as I know, as
> of yet they don't come even close. But maybe I'm wrong?

Well, certainly on the phones we get over here... but the new crop of iMode phones in Japan have displays better than a GBC, and, like I said, developers like Namco, Sonic Team and Amusement Vision are already making downloadable games for them. (Sonic Team have made a few Sonic based games as well as Chu-Chu Rocket, AV have a Space Channel 5 themed game, and Namco are going on the old-skool Bomberman and Pacman ideas).

Sonic
Thu 02/05/02 at 18:19
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I wonder how a 2-played vs. game of Snake would work!

It's an interesting idea though, and you're right in saying that games like Bomberman could do very well and really kick-off Mobile Gaming.

But would people who've already spent £200 on their new Nokias or whatever, really wanna have to spend a lot more on another phone, just so they can play better games???
And i'm sure others would critisise it, due to the mobile's popularity and the fears over health and safety from the radiation and stuff.
Thu 02/05/02 at 16:36
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When I think of mobile phone gaming, I see horrible blocky black & white pixels, a la Spectrum. It'll only take off when the graphics can compete with those of the Gameboy and GBA - and as far as I know, as of yet they don't come even close. But maybe I'm wrong?
Tue 30/04/02 at 15:46
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Everyone seems to be talking about the capabilities of high-speed Internet gaming. The only problem is that it'll only work when we all get high speed ADSL lines.... which I doubt is gonna happen soon.

So, while we're all waiting for BT to catch up with the rest of the world, why not exploit the pre-existant network that are mobile phones.

Our friends in Japan have already begun to do this- the iMode phone network sports games designed by companies like Sega and Namco. Amusement Vision and Sonic Team (parts of Sega) even have teams of people devoted to making games based around their characters for phones.

But mobile gaming should be about so much more than just the usual columns or bomberman- as good as these games are, they really don't expoit the phone network itself. How about taking the classic games like bomberman, but then allowing mobile gamers to enter real-time competitions against other players, competing for prizes?

Mobile networks could get companies to sponsor "mobile tournaments" where potentially millions of gamers would enter a tournament for, say, 10p each. It makes sense for the phone companies- not only do they get sponsorship money and tournament entry money, but the first phone company to implement sucha scheme is bound to get a whole lot of new customers too.

In the future, as phone technology gets better, you could have simple online Role Playing Games. Something like "Dominion" (for those of you who don't know, this is a free online game where you take control of an army and some land, and have to invade other people to compete to be the biggest realm). All that's needed is the invetment.

Maybe in the distant future, when mobiles get really advanced, they will compete with handheld consoles like the GBA. While both could potentially have equally good graphics, phones would have the added advantage of having a network already set up over which people could play. With developers like Sega onboard the future looks good for the mobile gamer.

Sonic

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