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Thu 25/04/02 at 12:53
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That's right, even if you already have or plan to get an Xbox or PS2.
As happy as you'll be with either of these consoles (and even with all the space that your Xbox will take up), there's room for one more.

When Nintendo said that they weren't aiming for the same market as these two, I thought that they were just playing down hype, but now I see what they mean.

The Xbox hasn't done so well as it should. Why?
Because it's aimed at the exact market the Sony has eaten up over the last 1 and a half years. Although there are clear advantages in owning the Xbox, the PS2 was almost as good, had more games, a sure reputation and was much cheaper.

Now the Xbox has had its price cut it's much more competitive, especially now it's a far better value for money than Sony's machine.
Even so, if I had a PS2 (like many of Microsoft's target audience do), although the XBox games look generally better than PS2 ones, the PS2 would be more than good enough and I wouldn't care to spend £200+ to replace with something only slightly superficially better (naturally, some people have the money but I wouldn't).

Likewise, someone who had an XBox wouldn't want to splash out £200 on PS2.

These consoles are too similar to be really worth owning both.
They specialise in realistic graphics and ideas.
They impress the world with their reaslitic shooters/fighters/racers.

That's not putting them down, but when you think about it, if you've got Virtua Fighter 4, do you really need to spend £200 on Dead Or Alive 3, and vice versa.
Someone who has Gran Turismo 3 isn't going to care to spend £200+ on Project Gotham Racing, and vise versa.
I'm sure that the PS2 has an FPS to rival Halo too (although no titles come to mind, I'm not familiar with forthcoming PS2 releases).

Some of the biggest titles, like GTA3 and MGS2 are actually appearing on both consoles! So you can see why you wouldn't want to splash out on both a PS2 AND an Xbox.

So why is the Gamecube different then?
Why is it worth owning Nintendo's machine along with your Xbox and PS2.

Well there's the price for starters. £130 with £40 games is perfectly reasonable and acceptable. It's not too expensive to buy the console and the games will cost roughly the same as ones you're buying for your current system. (Having said that, you just know that with the Gamecube you're going to end up having to buy 3 extra pads!!!)

Then there's the games.
Sure, the Gamecube has it's fair share of realistic shooters (Turok and Die Hard), fighters (Soul Calibre) and racers (just a PS2 conversion of Burnout for now, but more will follow, besides, you're not buying a Nintendo machine to play realistic racing games...).

But it also has it's own speciality, almost exclusive to games made by Nintendo and Rare (although Sega seem to be VERY good at them too).
Fun quirky little games like Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin are good example.
Simple to get into, fairly challenging but easy going, very interesting because you'll never play anything like them anywhere else.

Sure, you might not choose them over your Halo's and Metal Gear Solid's but seeing as you've got plenty of them on your Xbox/PS2, the Gamecube is the best place to find something really different.

It gets even better when you get your friends round.
The Xbox and PS2 have a fair few decent multiplayer games in the form of FPS games, but even if they're your favourite type of multiplayer game, you won't want to ALWAYS play the same type of game again and again and again!

The Gamecube will have it's FPS games too, but FPS's aren't so great if you're not playing someone who can play to your level or if you'd rather relax than go for an intense shoot out.

That's where the likes of Monkey Ball, Smash Brothers, Soccer Slam, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Donkey Kong Racing etc... take their cue.
You don't have to play to win to enjoy them, you can pick up and play straight away (watching a newbie gamer trying to get to grips with Halo is almost painful - you never realise how much skill you've develloped in controlling FPS games until you see a beginner try them!), there's plenty of depth for you to devellop your skills and strategys if you want to play for a challenge, there's much more scope to tease and humiliate your opponents (an essential ingredient for fun multiplayer!).

You won't find games like them anywhere else.

And to compliment the fun quirky multiplayer games, there's Nintendo's other speciality - adventure.
Zelda, Mario and Starfox Adventures are all shaping up to be great.

And don't give me this "they look too kiddie for me" bull!
I know how many of you PS2 owners raved over Jak and Daxter. You know how great that style of game is, and as great as Jak and Daxter was, I'm certain that Nintendo can make something even better!

And remember, although you might prefer your more realistic games, these "Nintendo-style" games are well worth owning too.

It's like the Xbox and PS2 are TV's while the Gamecube is a hi-fi.
You might prefer to watch TV, you might prefer to listen to music.
But if you can, get the Hi-fi AND a TV to be able to listen to music AND watch TV, depending on what you feel like.

I wouldn't recommend getting both of the TV's though...
Thu 25/04/02 at 12:53
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Posts: 9,848
That's right, even if you already have or plan to get an Xbox or PS2.
As happy as you'll be with either of these consoles (and even with all the space that your Xbox will take up), there's room for one more.

When Nintendo said that they weren't aiming for the same market as these two, I thought that they were just playing down hype, but now I see what they mean.

The Xbox hasn't done so well as it should. Why?
Because it's aimed at the exact market the Sony has eaten up over the last 1 and a half years. Although there are clear advantages in owning the Xbox, the PS2 was almost as good, had more games, a sure reputation and was much cheaper.

Now the Xbox has had its price cut it's much more competitive, especially now it's a far better value for money than Sony's machine.
Even so, if I had a PS2 (like many of Microsoft's target audience do), although the XBox games look generally better than PS2 ones, the PS2 would be more than good enough and I wouldn't care to spend £200+ to replace with something only slightly superficially better (naturally, some people have the money but I wouldn't).

Likewise, someone who had an XBox wouldn't want to splash out £200 on PS2.

These consoles are too similar to be really worth owning both.
They specialise in realistic graphics and ideas.
They impress the world with their reaslitic shooters/fighters/racers.

That's not putting them down, but when you think about it, if you've got Virtua Fighter 4, do you really need to spend £200 on Dead Or Alive 3, and vice versa.
Someone who has Gran Turismo 3 isn't going to care to spend £200+ on Project Gotham Racing, and vise versa.
I'm sure that the PS2 has an FPS to rival Halo too (although no titles come to mind, I'm not familiar with forthcoming PS2 releases).

Some of the biggest titles, like GTA3 and MGS2 are actually appearing on both consoles! So you can see why you wouldn't want to splash out on both a PS2 AND an Xbox.

So why is the Gamecube different then?
Why is it worth owning Nintendo's machine along with your Xbox and PS2.

Well there's the price for starters. £130 with £40 games is perfectly reasonable and acceptable. It's not too expensive to buy the console and the games will cost roughly the same as ones you're buying for your current system. (Having said that, you just know that with the Gamecube you're going to end up having to buy 3 extra pads!!!)

Then there's the games.
Sure, the Gamecube has it's fair share of realistic shooters (Turok and Die Hard), fighters (Soul Calibre) and racers (just a PS2 conversion of Burnout for now, but more will follow, besides, you're not buying a Nintendo machine to play realistic racing games...).

But it also has it's own speciality, almost exclusive to games made by Nintendo and Rare (although Sega seem to be VERY good at them too).
Fun quirky little games like Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin are good example.
Simple to get into, fairly challenging but easy going, very interesting because you'll never play anything like them anywhere else.

Sure, you might not choose them over your Halo's and Metal Gear Solid's but seeing as you've got plenty of them on your Xbox/PS2, the Gamecube is the best place to find something really different.

It gets even better when you get your friends round.
The Xbox and PS2 have a fair few decent multiplayer games in the form of FPS games, but even if they're your favourite type of multiplayer game, you won't want to ALWAYS play the same type of game again and again and again!

The Gamecube will have it's FPS games too, but FPS's aren't so great if you're not playing someone who can play to your level or if you'd rather relax than go for an intense shoot out.

That's where the likes of Monkey Ball, Smash Brothers, Soccer Slam, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Donkey Kong Racing etc... take their cue.
You don't have to play to win to enjoy them, you can pick up and play straight away (watching a newbie gamer trying to get to grips with Halo is almost painful - you never realise how much skill you've develloped in controlling FPS games until you see a beginner try them!), there's plenty of depth for you to devellop your skills and strategys if you want to play for a challenge, there's much more scope to tease and humiliate your opponents (an essential ingredient for fun multiplayer!).

You won't find games like them anywhere else.

And to compliment the fun quirky multiplayer games, there's Nintendo's other speciality - adventure.
Zelda, Mario and Starfox Adventures are all shaping up to be great.

And don't give me this "they look too kiddie for me" bull!
I know how many of you PS2 owners raved over Jak and Daxter. You know how great that style of game is, and as great as Jak and Daxter was, I'm certain that Nintendo can make something even better!

And remember, although you might prefer your more realistic games, these "Nintendo-style" games are well worth owning too.

It's like the Xbox and PS2 are TV's while the Gamecube is a hi-fi.
You might prefer to watch TV, you might prefer to listen to music.
But if you can, get the Hi-fi AND a TV to be able to listen to music AND watch TV, depending on what you feel like.

I wouldn't recommend getting both of the TV's though...
Thu 25/04/02 at 14:08
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Posts: 612
Well said and a brilliant Speech, i have a Ps2 but i rushed on Jan 29th {start of gameplay preorders} to get a Gamecube as i know Nintendo are the best, and other people like Microsoft and Sony shouldn't even bother taken the crown from them! They don't stand a chance.
Thu 25/04/02 at 16:25
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"I'm not Orgazmo"
Posts: 9,159
Wahooo the Gamecube is at such a cheap price everyone will think that they may as well get one, then obviously buy some games and realise just how good they are.

The world will be overcome by Ninty's.

Shigeru the leader.

Well something like that anyway :0)

Nice post by the way, well written
Fri 26/04/02 at 10:47
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Posts: 9,848
Thanks.

It works both ways too ofcourse. To show that I'm not simply a Nintendo advert, I'm sort of thinking of getting an Xbox to sit along side the Gamecube. As good as Nintendo's console is, Nintendo have no real online plans (the Xbox comes equipped with broadband), the Xbox supports the 16 player deathmatches I've always wanted (Nintendo might follow suit, but not for a while), and for just £200 + Halo's price (I won't be needing a memory card).

It'll be a while before I have that sort of money again but I'm making plans...
Fri 26/04/02 at 11:00
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Posts: 11,145
You can get broadband out your way then Strafex?

I've always felt that Microsoft are alienating a lot of people by not having a 56k modem option.

I pretty much agree with everything in your post, and can only really ad that the Gamecube is much more viable than the N64 was if you only can afford one console, as it now has a greater range of those multiplatform titles that are so popular, Tony Hawks, and the like.
Fri 26/04/02 at 11:01
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Well, we've not got broadband yet, I don't think, but it can't be THAT far away...

I'm not planning on getting an Xbox for atleast 6 months anyway.
Fri 26/04/02 at 13:27
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Strafex I agree with your PS2 vs XBox comments entirely. I have a PS2, and a PC, and to me even though the XBox does have superb games, it kind of falls somewhere between the two. So I've gone for a GameCube for something a little different. I know some people have gone from PS2 to GameCube to follow the Resident Evil franchise (not me, as it was getting kind of boring - I hope the GC can breath new life, er, death to the series), but I wanted to have the joys of Nintendo and Rare games in particular. To be honest, I wouldn't have thought of getting the GameCube as my main console now though, as past the initial releases, currently the release schedule is a little barren. Fingers crossed that will change. The PS2 didn't exactly have a lot of good games to offer initially either.
Sun 28/04/02 at 22:10
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Although there's no obvious revolutionary titles at launch, there's a fair blend of original quirky games like Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin, 4 player master pieces like Monkey Ball and Smash Brothers and top quality versions of existing genres like Rogue Leader and Wave Race.


And Mario, Starfox and Zelda aren't so far away...
Sun 28/04/02 at 22:34
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Everyone should get a cube anyway because it rules.
Mon 29/04/02 at 16:11
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Cube rules!!
Nuff said.
I'm getting one on friday, Cant wait ;)

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