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"Is the Champions League a farce?"

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Tue 23/04/02 at 13:35
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(Partly taken from www.sigames.com, partly from my views)

The name Champions League. Look at the Quarter Finalists from this year. Only 4 teams won their respective leagues. Spain have had excellent representation in the last two Champions Leagues.

It's obvious that a change is necessary. The winner of the Champions League would have played about 19 games. That, to me, is far too many, especially with league and domestic cup commitment.

A possible remedy would be to scrap the first group phase and have a knockout round to reduce the teams for the group section. There are many possibilities, but one thing is for sure. SCRAP THE NAME CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!

Discuss. (Please)
Fri 26/04/02 at 16:25
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But the Champions League doesn't contain just champions does it?
Fri 26/04/02 at 14:45
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Grandprix wrote:
> (Partly taken from www.sigames.com, partly from my views)
>
> The name Champions League. Look at the Quarter Finalists from this
> year. Only 4 teams won their respective leagues. Spain have had
> excellent representation in the last two Champions Leagues.
>
> It's obvious that a change is necessary. The winner of the Champions
> League would have played about 19 games. That, to me, is far too many,
> especially with league and domestic cup commitment.
>
> A possible remedy would be to scrap the first group phase and have a
> knockout round to reduce the teams for the group section. There are
> many possibilities, but one thing is for sure. SCRAP THE NAME
> CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!

if they did scrap the name the champions league what would you like it to be called
i like the name because only the champions are in it
Wed 24/04/02 at 22:07
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I suppose the unfairness of it is the point I was trying to get across. Unfortunately, not everyone wants to see Manchester United versus Barry Town.
Wed 24/04/02 at 20:34
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I feel sorry for teams from Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland and any other league which the winners of the national league have to eneter at the 1st preminary round and if they get through that it is the 1st round, then the 2nd round and finally the 3rd round.

Newcastle who finished fourth this season get to enter at the 3rd round and this makes me feel sorry for the welsh and irish teams.

But it all depends on how well you country is doing in the ratings and when you do qualify for the proper champions league group stages how well you do!

A team that starts in the 1st round has less chance of qualifying for the group stages as they will be more tired than other teams that come in at the later stages.
Tue 23/04/02 at 23:14
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I mean, we are getting 4 teams in the Champs league for next season.

Its good for the clubs on financial terms though! I think its fine as it. The margin of quality between the top teams in each league around Europe is very small. In the big 3 leagues, England, Spain and Italy, you got a three horse race for the title with only a few games left. If a team only misses out on the leage championship by a few points, then surely they shoudnt miss out on champions league football.
Tue 23/04/02 at 14:33
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I completely agree, although United won the Champions League without winning the Premiership, so I have to be thankful for that! It is becoming ridiclous, why can it not go back to being called the European cup?

Of this year's semifinalists, I think only two are actually champions (United and Real?). Its not the Champions League, its the "top teams in the top leagues" competition. And some clubs want to change it so that they get in to the competition year in year out, such as AC and Inter Milan, who, let's face it, haven't exactly been an outstanding presence in recent years.

I completely agree with your ideas, get rid of the first round, lose all of the runners-up and the third and fourth places (*Cough* Liverpool *Cough*). I know this will lose the clubs money, but who cares. At the rate they are going, they won't be able to afford to give away all the prize money anyway, so they'll have to cut down the number of teams.
Tue 23/04/02 at 13:35
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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(Partly taken from www.sigames.com, partly from my views)

The name Champions League. Look at the Quarter Finalists from this year. Only 4 teams won their respective leagues. Spain have had excellent representation in the last two Champions Leagues.

It's obvious that a change is necessary. The winner of the Champions League would have played about 19 games. That, to me, is far too many, especially with league and domestic cup commitment.

A possible remedy would be to scrap the first group phase and have a knockout round to reduce the teams for the group section. There are many possibilities, but one thing is for sure. SCRAP THE NAME CHAMPIONS LEAGUE!

Discuss. (Please)

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